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Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

Started by Spinachcat, August 02, 2021, 11:31:32 PM

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dkabq

Quote from: Klava on May 22, 2023, 04:26:57 PM
Quote from: dkabq on May 22, 2023, 04:02:05 PM
Careful throwing stones...

don't pin that stuff on me. i've never said that they didn't cut corners and neither did i claim they handled it well - they definitely didn't. i'm just talking vaccines here - you know, stuff madd using general knowledge and technology thanks to which none of us here had their kids' lives destroyed by small pox or polio.
Fair enough.

However, these are vax related:

Forcing young, healthy people to take the vax, even when the data showed that young, healthy people rarely died from covid.

No technical basis for ignoring natural immunity. That is, if you had covid, you didn't need to take the vax (just like the measles vax).

The results from a study of 9 mice as the basis for boosters.

Saying that the vax prevents transmission with no studies to support that claim.

Saying that the vax prevents infection to going to prevents severe outcomes.

Spinachcat

Have we reached the Eating Crow phase of the Shamdemic?

Amazing how we Pureblood "conspiracy theorists" turned out right.
Again.
And again.
And yet again.
Must be coincidence.

Funny how "real science > scientism" every time.

For those kids keeping up with the Big Show, the next season of the CoronaChan Shamdemic is called "Fallout: the Intended and Unintended Damage" as humanity reaps what it has sown and we all discover the long term and permanent ramifications of giving up our REAL freedoms for FALSE safety.

My prediction? Karma is gonna be a raging bitch.

But unfortunately, it will be the innocent children who suffer the most.

Brad

Quote from: Spinachcat on May 22, 2023, 06:59:16 PM
Have we reached the Eating Crow phase of the Shamdemic?

Amazing how we Pureblood "conspiracy theorists" turned out right.
Again.
And again.
And yet again.
Must be coincidence.

Funny how "real science > scientism" every time.

For those kids keeping up with the Big Show, the next season of the CoronaChan Shamdemic is called "Fallout: the Intended and Unintended Damage" as humanity reaps what it has sown and we all discover the long term and permanent ramifications of giving up our REAL freedoms for FALSE safety.

My prediction? Karma is gonna be a raging bitch.

But unfortunately, it will be the innocent children who suffer the most.

No, you just got lucky being right. It was unscientific to ignore the recommendations of bureaucrat shills owned by the pharmaceutical companies and instead trust your own research and intuition on the matter. Every study to the contrary that appeared and was immediately buried and every scintilla of evidence disputing the mainstream narrative that was immediately branded as misinformation could not possibly be used as any sort of evidence that a nefarious agenda to push non-vaccine vaccines was taking place. Surely you are just an idiot to possibly believe the government of all nebulous entities would not have your best interests at heart and would use FUD to strip away your freedoms in the name of safety, right?

You anti-science bigot.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Klava

Quote from: Kiero on May 22, 2023, 05:04:56 PM
You've had no side effects...yet.

How long has it been? Maybe we should revisit this question in 5 years?

maybe you should do the same and wait until they find actual proof the girl you were talking about was having side effects from the vaccine before going "zomg! here's another life ruined!"?
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out

Klava

Quote from: dkabq on May 22, 2023, 06:24:40 PM
Quote from: Klava on May 22, 2023, 04:26:57 PM
Quote from: dkabq on May 22, 2023, 04:02:05 PM
Careful throwing stones...

don't pin that stuff on me. i've never said that they didn't cut corners and neither did i claim they handled it well - they definitely didn't. i'm just talking vaccines here - you know, stuff madd using general knowledge and technology thanks to which none of us here had their kids' lives destroyed by small pox or polio.
Fair enough.

However, these are vax related:

Forcing young, healthy people to take the vax, even when the data showed that young, healthy people rarely died from covid.

No technical basis for ignoring natural immunity. That is, if you had covid, you didn't need to take the vax (just like the measles vax).

The results from a study of 9 mice as the basis for boosters.

Saying that the vax prevents transmission with no studies to support that claim.

Saying that the vax prevents infection to going to prevents severe outcomes.

i think i already agreed with you on them handling it pretty badly, didn't i? if they were honest about the info they had (or didn't have) and didn't treat everybody like mindless sheep that couldn't possibly make their own decisions i think it could have gone better, at least in the realm of PR and politics. i mean, in my home country when they started proper testing of their mrna vaccine, they had all their cards on the table - and i, personally, knew exactly was i was subjecting myself to when i volunteered to test it. and the whole vaccination schtick remained completely voluntary through the whole thing. it was encouraged by the government, but only mandated for people of certain professions - medical, police, public transportation and a number of others. i can't speak of the results compared to other countries that had stricter rules on this, because, unlike anti-vaxer nuts, i don't claim to have the info required to make such a call, but public perception of the whole thing seems to be better than in the states, for example.

or, if your point is to say that this is a capitalist world in which corporate pigs and politicians prostituting for them would commit any atrocity if it meant profits like those they got pushing vaccines during the pandemic, then you don't have to sell me - i'm with you.

now, what i'm talking about here is bloody idiots opposing vaccines on the basis of those "expertly produced" monetized youtube videos, or simply on "zomg! my friend's girlfriend's granddad discovered a wart on his left buttock after being jabbed with a vaccine !!!one!11!!eleven".
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out

Kiero

Quote from: Klava on May 23, 2023, 02:01:17 AM
maybe you should do the same and wait until they find actual proof the girl you were talking about was having side effects from the vaccine before going "zomg! here's another life ruined!"?

I wasn't talking about this girl, I merely conjectured why whomever it was who brought them up might suspect that. You do know there are actual documented cases of people dying from the jabs, right? As in a pathologist actually wrote that as the cause of death on their death certificate?

In any case, we are not equivalent. I haven't subjected myself to experimental genetic augmentation, there's nothing for me to worry about coming up in the future.

Good luck, though.
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Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.

Klava

Quote from: Kiero on May 23, 2023, 03:23:36 AM
I wasn't talking about this girl, I merely conjectured why whomever it was who brought them up might suspect that.

so, no evidence after all?
okay.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out

Kiero

Quote from: Klava on May 23, 2023, 03:30:14 AM
so, no evidence after all?
okay.

Oh, because curated lies paid for by Big Pharma is "evidence" now. Sure thing.
Currently running: Tyche\'s Favourites, a historical ACKS campaign set around Massalia in 300BC.

Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.

Klava

Quote from: Kiero on May 23, 2023, 04:03:57 AM
Oh, because curated lies paid for by Big Pharma is "evidence" now. Sure thing.

i didn't ask you to evaluate evidence provided by anyone you so vehemently disagree with - just the evidence for your own claims about that girl.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out

Kiero

Quote from: Klava on May 23, 2023, 04:38:10 AM
i didn't ask you to evaluate evidence provided by anyone you so vehemently disagree with - just the evidence for your own claims about that girl.

I didn't make any "claims", I conjectured a very likely explanation. What with lots of jabbed people evincing mysterious symptoms they didn't experience before they were jabbed.
Currently running: Tyche\'s Favourites, a historical ACKS campaign set around Massalia in 300BC.

Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.

Klava

Quote from: Kiero on May 23, 2023, 04:51:24 AM
I didn't make any "claims", I conjectured a very likely explanation. What with lots of jabbed people evincing mysterious symptoms they didn't experience before they were jabbed.

with the number of people being vaccinated at the time, one could use this before-amd-after logic to find correlation between the injection and anything at all - from car accidents to getting crabs. conjecture my ass.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out

Kiero

Quote from: Klava on May 23, 2023, 06:31:59 AM
with the number of people being vaccinated at the time, one could use this before-amd-after logic to find correlation between the injection and anything at all - from car accidents to getting crabs. conjecture my ass.

What utter bullshit. You keep working whatever helps you sleep at night.
Currently running: Tyche\'s Favourites, a historical ACKS campaign set around Massalia in 300BC.

Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.

Kiero

Data released in Israel following a court order. Zero covid deaths in healthy under-50s: https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1660710583052673029?

Yes, zero.
Currently running: Tyche\'s Favourites, a historical ACKS campaign set around Massalia in 300BC.

Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.

Klava

Quote from: Kiero on May 23, 2023, 07:30:08 AM
Quote from: Klava on May 23, 2023, 06:31:59 AM
with the number of people being vaccinated at the time, one could use this before-amd-after logic to find correlation between the injection and anything at all - from car accidents to getting crabs. conjecture my ass.

What utter bullshit. You keep working whatever helps you sleep at night.
ah. so you don't even know how basic statistics work?
okay.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out

Brad

Quote from: Klava on May 23, 2023, 02:19:45 PM
ah. so you don't even know how basic statistics work?
okay.

LOL

Just stop
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.