Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

[KindaMeh]

Totally normal. Nothing to see here...

https://www.science.org/content/article/covid-19-starkly-increases-pregnancy-complications-including-stillbirths-among

Study seemed legit enough to me. But in all fairness, not like it justifies any of the mandates or coercion.

[KindaMeh]

Excess mortality and current counts for Covid are indeed weird, though. Partly because it no longer always presents like it used to and there are so many treatment and vaccination factors.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/faustfiles/101709

[KindaMeh]

Honestly not too convinced all cause mortality is super Covid or Covid vaccine related, but I guess I'll post this: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00547-3/fulltext

[KindaMeh]

That's just Massachusetts, tho. So this stuff is more interesting. https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

(Playing devil's advocate to myself here a bit regarding excess mortality not being linked to COVID and vaccines and cetera.)

[KindaMeh]

Regardless, lockdowns and all mandates regarding COVID have been bs. Even parts of the UK media are starting to acknowledge it: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/12/28/chinas-covid-nightmare-final-proof-lockdowns-total-failure/

Florida doing as well as it did on all levels probably should have clued folks in on the correct sort of approach sooner, though.

Edit: In retrospect these should probably all have been compressed in post count.

[Kiero]

The outbreak on the Diamond Princess was all the evidence we ever needed that covid was a nothingburger.

[Jaeger]

Totally not the Vax...





At least 769 recently vaxxed athletes collapsed last year during competition:
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/report-at-least-769-recently-vaxxed-athletes-collapsed-last-year-during-competition/

[KindaMeh]

Totally not the Vax...





At least 769 recently vaxxed athletes collapsed last year during competition:
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/report-at-least-769-recently-vaxxed-athletes-collapsed-last-year-during-competition/

I think there could be something to it, but they made some errors in how they derived the 2021 till now numbers referenced in the first part of that tweet. Apparently even the Associated Press caught that. https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-vaccines-athlete-deaths-1500-989195878254

However where there's smoke there's often fire, and your posted source on collapsing athletes especially I think checks out.

On which note, there is supporting evidence that while perhaps not quite on that scale, something's going on here. Take a look at this and ignore their recommendations at the bottom. The meat is that myocarditis, especially caused by Covid (which is a reaction more common in the vaccinated), is big time affiliated with stuff like this as regards SCD and similar heart troubles. https://www.healthline.com/health/athletes-dying-of-heart-attacks

[Kiero]

Covid doesn't cause myocarditis in numbers any higher than the flu does (which is to say hardly any), in the unjabbed, ie people with normal biology.

In those who've been mRNA'd, every since covid infection triggers the mechanisms that can lead to heart damage, which is why it's a "common reaction" in the jabbed. But it's the jabs that are the cause, not covid.

Doesn't matter how you slice it, the massive increase in myocarditis and pericarditis has been caused by the jabs. Along with the spike in excess deaths.

[Jaeger]

mRNA Vaccines Injure the Heart of ALL Vaccine Recipients and Cause Myocarditis in Up to 1 in 27, Study Finds:
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/10/27/mrna-vaccines-injure-the-heart-of-all-vaccine-recipients-and-cause-myocarditis-in-up-to-1-in-27-study-finds/



This is not hard.

Anyone that takes the vax at this point is a moron.

[KindaMeh]

Covid doesn't cause myocarditis in numbers any higher than the flu does (which is to say hardly any), in the unjabbed, ie people with normal biology.

In those who've been mRNA'd, every since covid infection triggers the mechanisms that can lead to heart damage, which is why it's a "common reaction" in the jabbed. But it's the jabs that are the cause, not covid.

Doesn't matter how you slice it, the massive increase in myocarditis and pericarditis has been caused by the jabs. Along with the spike in excess deaths.

I mean, it's more common and severe in the jabbed, that's been proven. Myocarditis can manifest without Covid in the jabbed as a result of the vax, but is even more likely to trigger if the vaccinated get Covid. Likewise, while I disputed specific figures listed for athlete deaths due to heart attacks and whatnot, I do believe myocarditis is behind a smaller but still notable uptick in athlete deaths, heart problems and cetera.

The only reason why I noted it was more common for those vaccinated is that myocarditis can indeed also happen in those who are unvaccinated, after they catch Covid. ex: https://pennstatehealthnews.org/2022/09/covid-19-infection-causes-myocarditis/

[KindaMeh]

As for whether folks should take the vax. I think if you're old and/or have a ton of risk factors, and so forth, might still be worth weighing the question. Not least based on some of the statistics I've posted earlier about how it can reduce death and hospitalization rates for Covid specifically. Albeit at a long term risk (which presumably matters a bit less to for instance the old) because we don't 100% know what it's gonna do. People currently disagree and there isn't enough hard data to ban it for everyone in my opinion. I'm not for banning it and I'm not for any of their mandates in favor of it either. I think people should be free to choose, and it's a contentious enough topic of study and debate that I question whether there's an obvious one size fits all policy answer.

[Kiero]

As for whether folks should take the vax. I think if you're old and/or have a ton of risk factors, and so forth, might still be worth weighing the question. Not least based on some of the statistics I've posted earlier about how it can reduce death and hospitalization rates for Covid specifically. Albeit at a long term risk (which presumably matters a bit less to for instance the old) because we don't 100% know what it's gonna do. People currently disagree and there isn't enough hard data to ban it for everyone in my opinion. I'm not for banning it and I'm not for any of their mandates in favor of it either. I think people should be free to choose, and it's a contentious enough topic of study and debate that I question whether there's an obvious one size fits all policy answer.

Nope, there was never any cause for anyone to take the jabs. They don't work, for one, and they carry a host of both known and unknown side-effects.

[jhkim]

As for whether folks should take the vax. I think if you're old and/or have a ton of risk factors, and so forth, might still be worth weighing the question. Not least based on some of the statistics I've posted earlier about how it can reduce death and hospitalization rates for Covid specifically. Albeit at a long term risk (which presumably matters a bit less to for instance the old) because we don't 100% know what it's gonna do. People currently disagree and there isn't enough hard data to ban it for everyone in my opinion. I'm not for banning it and I'm not for any of their mandates in favor of it either. I think people should be free to choose, and it's a contentious enough topic of study and debate that I question whether there's an obvious one size fits all policy answer.

Nope, there was never any cause for anyone to take the jabs. They don't work, for one, and they carry a host of both known and unknown side-effects.

Kiero, do you think that's true of all the covid vaccines, or only certain ones - like only the mRNA tech ones, or only those from Trump's "Warp Speed" program?

[Kiero]

Kiero, do you think that's true of all the covid vaccines, or only certain ones - like only the mRNA tech ones, or only those from Trump's "Warp Speed" program?

It's true of all of them. None of them provide immunity to covid, thus are not vaccines (and no I don't accept the bullshit new definition of a vaccine introduced in 2020).

The non-mRNA ones (AZ, J&J, Sputnik, etc) give you a massive dose of spike proteins, which cause endolithial damage often triggering heart attacks and strokes.

The mRNA ones (Pfizer, Moderna) reprogram your body to produce massive doses of spike proteins, bringing all those same vascular risks, with the added bonus of random genetic damage (cancers!) and destroying your sterilising immune system too.

Again the outbreak on the cruise ship the Diamond Princess, long before anyone had heard of the jabs, showed covid was a nothingburger. None of this charade was ever necessary, but it was never about public health.