Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

[dkabq]

Joe Biden Needs to FIRE all his COVID advisors | Jha, Walensky, Murthy & More | Here is Why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_a6IdpVbxg

Anyone care to refute his points using facts and logic?

[Ghostmaker]

https://archive.ph/V462o#selection-597.0-809.307

'We need an amnesty to protect us from people pissed we misled them about Covid!'

Now why would they need that?

[3catcircus]

https://archive.ph/V462o#selection-597.0-809.307

'We need an amnesty to protect us from people pissed we misled them about Covid!'

Now why would they need that?

Fuck. Them.

We have a #DHSLeaks trending showing that everything you believed about social media censoring people is even worse than you thought. Vijaya Gadde met monthly with DHS to discuss how to censor any discussion critical of COVID jabs, Hunter's laptop, and Biden's dementia, amongst other speech protected by 1A.

Fuck them all. Burn it all down and hold every single one of those cunts to account.

[Zelen]

Reduced mortality for 0-14 age cohort due to Sars-Cov-2. Only ticks up after injections roll out for this age group.


For 15-44 age cohort, no significant excess deaths, except they keep ticking up after injections were rolled out.


Some excess deaths in 65-84 cohort from Covid, but even more mortality after the "dry tinder" was burned off and the injections were rolled out.


For the 85+ cohort, significant excess mortality, continuing on even after injections were supposed to have saved everyone.

[Ratman_tf]

https://archive.ph/V462o#selection-597.0-809.307

'We need an amnesty to protect us from people pissed we misled them about Covid!'

Now why would they need that?

We need to forgive one another for what we did and said when we were in the dark about COVID.

No.

[Chris24601]

https://archive.ph/V462o#selection-597.0-809.307

'We need an amnesty to protect us from people pissed we misled them about Covid!'

Now why would they need that?

We need to forgive one another for what we did and said when we were in the dark about COVID.

No.

I would be willing to forgive them... if they immediately resigned from any position of authority and agreed to spend the next 25 years confined to one of the Covid concentration camps they wanted to corral all the unvaxxed into.

[dkabq]

Biden's Bivalent Booster Blunder
https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/bidens-bivalent-booster-blunder

Still waiting for the vax apologist to refute his points with facts and logic.

[dkabq]

https://twitter.com/raggedoldmemes/status/1587287905730703363?s=20&t=g7c4V_Nvx7sdrt6iYTF5kQ

[Kiero]

All the cunts who think they can slink away with an "amnesty" on the evil shit they pushed on other people so we can "move on"? They can get fucked.

[Ratman_tf]

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[Mistwell]

All the cunts who think they can slink away with an "amnesty" on the evil shit they pushed on other people so we can "move on"? They can get fucked.

True. I am not going to forgive you for all the nonsense conspiracy theories you were peddling here.

[Kiero]

True. I am not going to forgive you for all the nonsense conspiracy theories you were peddling here.

Fuck you. I never threatened anyone's livelihood or ability to function, or threatened to ostracise them from society because they didn't comply with the jab.

Virtually all of my "conspiracy theories" have proven to be true. Unlike the fallacious narrative morons like you slavishly lapped up.

[KindaMeh]

Joe Biden Needs to FIRE all his COVID advisors | Jha, Walensky, Murthy & More | Here is Why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_a6IdpVbxg

Anyone care to refute his points using facts and logic?

Personally, I think this dude makes a whole lot of sense. And deserves to be parroted on some things, though I know you're probably waiting for a different response.

Children were minimally affected and should not have had masks that impaired learning and development. Likewise there was no real point in dedicating so much disruptive effort towards protecting them specifically when they were the least at risk, and the treatment in many cases proved worse than the disease in affecting outcomes. I'll go a step further once again and say mask mandates and vaccine mandates and most mandates in general were wrong on the basis of political discrimination, as noted earlier.

That said, he kinda sometimes seems like a bit of a technocrat, and I almost feel that if the science had been different we'd be hearing something different from him on policy. I can appreciate caring about facts in politics, but also some of this stuff is a moral and democratic function issue with respect to political discrimination, and it almost feels like he thinks science can tell us how to do policy? IDK though, might be misrepresenting him on that. He seems very reasonable and learned, and I broadly agree with his specifically stated points, so I should probably give him the benefit of the doubt.

And yeah, seems like other more competent folks could've done the job better. Mainly in that the government did very little to no testing itself on a lot of points and just relied on less monetarily backed/resource supported independent studies or incomplete corporate studies. They could've afforded to personally throw more money and real effort into testing if they were going to disrupt folks lives to the extent they did. That said, I kinda don't think there should've been any mandated disruption at all on other grounds, so for me it's kinda irrelevant. Also, though I would personally potentially stand to benefit politically from it, I dunno if political centrist appointments more generally are what we need so much as a moral awakening on the part of our ruling politicians that seems unlikely to happen.

Also, the kids under 5 vax study approval manipulations I feel should've been illegal. If it doesn't work the first couple times it probably doesn't work, or there should at least be a sizable waiting period and solid proof of redesign before it can be tested again. It's kinda just a rather stupid failing of our government testing system rules and leadership that this was allowed. I feel like this guy could've done their jobs better on several levels, so he makes a decent point that the government should be doing better on hiring. (Though to be fair, this dude also seems pretty darn sharp to me.)

Door Dash, I'm kinda unsurprised at this point. Of course they'd try to monetize this sort of thing. But also, weird that paxlovid is even deemed something to promote among the vaccinated. The hospitalization risk is so low, especially among repeat boosters, that it kinda just seems like profiting off of fearmongering. Which is totally unsurprising now that I think about it, but still.

Bivalent boosters seem less tested than basic vaccines and boosters, and the emergency thing is ridiculous. Covid is endemic at this point, Zero COVID is insane as noted earlier, and it hasn't even been proven these things are better than normal boosters and vaccines, so why besides corporate profit and the desire of government to be "doing something" would we need it? Also seems like it didn't work any better for Walensky than the low vaccination immunity rates other stuff has been shown to have, that seem to drop with every study on a new variant.

And again, as I noted in a prior post, having Covid is the most effective vaccine apart from the having Covid bit. It works better than a typical booster and this video further proves it.

The Russian Roulette analogy was interesting. I think some slow is better than none, especially if it comes accompanied by a therapeutic reduction in damage when you do get shot, but not within the context of a mandate. So I kinda agree on it being within the mandate section. If it only slows but does not halt, then yeah no mandate justification. But I'll go a step further than him again, I think a mandate would not be justified regardless.

I knew about myocarditis and was scared cuz a medic friend gave me the numbers in absolute terms. I feel a bit better about it having heard the proportional odds of less than 1 in 3000, cuz my Covid hospitalization odds even modified are higher than that, but still. They should have listened to Israel and given folks more accurate data to work with. Also, they should potentially be publishing and promoting basic vulnerability studies so folks can better judge their odds on taking it.

But yeah, I like this dude's policy recommendations, and how he called out school closures. Ones that should never have been especially justifiable.

I still stand by everything I've said thus far, including the studies I dropped. I also agree this guy makes some solid points in these specific areas. And I feel more convinced than ever that mandates were, are, and would be basically the wrong choice.

[Mistwell]

True. I am not going to forgive you for all the nonsense conspiracy theories you were peddling here.

Fuck you. I never threatened anyone's livelihood or ability to function, or threatened to ostracise them from society because they didn't comply with the jab.

Virtually all of my "conspiracy theories" have proven to be true. Unlike the fallacious narrative morons like you slavishly lapped up.

No really, they were not true. They were never true. Some of them even contradicted each other and had no internal consistency even in theory. They were completely paranoid and moronic. And guys like you probably did end in killing people indirectly by spreading falsehoods and convincing people who otherwise would have gotten the vaccine to not get it. Because you were not just casually disagreeing, you were actively telling people it was all lies and intended to do actual harm and claiming the vaccine was making people more susceptible to Covid and making Covid worse for those people who had been vaccinated and that the vaccine itself was resulting in mass death, all lies that can persuade someone to engage in more dangerous behavior even if they're elderly or have underlying conditions.

And you're not accountable to anyone for that behavior. 90% of people even here didn't agree with your madness but even they won't hold you accountable for it thinking "he's has a right to his bad opinion" is the same as "he shouldn't be told it's bad to do it for spreading that bad opinion."

[KindaMeh]

Reduced mortality for 0-14 age cohort due to Sars-Cov-2. Only ticks up after injections roll out for this age group.


For 15-44 age cohort, no significant excess deaths, except they keep ticking up after injections were rolled out.


Some excess deaths in 65-84 cohort from Covid, but even more mortality after the "dry tinder" was burned off and the injections were rolled out.


For the 85+ cohort, significant excess mortality, continuing on even after injections were supposed to have saved everyone.

Excess mortality is weird. According to this meta-analysis of data from the site you're drawing those charts from COVID was a notable factor in excess deaths more generally: https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.26.2001214;?crawler=true. 

But also I feel like it's unsurprising some vaccines rolling out weren't enough to alter the flow of things. excess deaths draw from a lot of sources, not just Covid, so altogether unsurprising that COVID isn't dictating excess deaths in general. Also towards the start as noted in prior posts masking was a weird factor Covid brought into play, because of its downward effects on other respiratory diseases. I also feel like we may be seeing some long term effects with respect to the lockdowns and cetera, they're probably having caused more excess deaths due to mental health crises, livelihood disruption, and cetera, and though I have no numerical proof of impact that's gotta be something. Likewise the world and its economy aren't doing great, nor is crime.

IDK, tho, the people above are apparently experts in excess death analysis or something, and they seem to think COVID was in there somewhere based on math and cetera. I like to speculate, but their analysis is probably better.