Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

[HappyDaze]

I saw nothing about using coercion in that article. They're reducing an access barrier for some, and that's it. None of them are storming your castles and forcing people to take the vaccine.

You really are dim, aren't you? Turning up at your door is a breach of medical confidentiality for a start (and is identifying your vaccine status to anyone who happens to be looking out their window or walking past).

There's no "access barrier", anyone who actually wanted to get jabbed has had ample opportunity in the year this programme has been running. It's yet another "nudge" from a government advised by behavioural psychologists.

Your tinfoil hat is on way too tight. You're seeing conspiracies in everything.

[Kiero]

Your tinfoil hat is on way too tight. You're seeing conspiracies in everything.

Incredible someone as blinkered as you is trusted with other people's safety. Evidently you can't see anything further than what's right in front of you. Nor do you seem to know a great deal about the British government and their advisers. So pardon me if I give your ignorant wittering little credence.

[Kiero]

Article linked by Robert Malone (only one of the inventors of the mRNA technology used by the jabs): https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/sharyl-attkisson-steven-gundry-pfizer-moderna-vaccines-heart-attack-risk/

"We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination"

What was I saying months ago about endothelial damage? Meanwhile in the real world: https://thecovidworld.com/unprecented-three-young-football-players-die-this-week-following-sudden-heart-attacks/

Football players keep dying suddenly.

Almost every professional team in the world has mandated that their footballers take the vaccine. The timing of these sudden deaths makes the vaccine the prime suspect here.

In an average year, about 9 football players die from cardiac arrest. This year there have been at least 18 deaths, including the three this week, a 100% increase.

[jhkim]

Article linked by Robert Malone (only one of the inventors of the mRNA technology used by the jabs): https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/sharyl-attkisson-steven-gundry-pfizer-moderna-vaccines-heart-attack-risk/

"We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination"

What was I saying months ago about endothelial damage?

You're singling out mRNA technology, but according to your source at childrenshealthdefense.org, other vaccines are also dangerous. From the same site:

Beyond the mercury-based preservative, thimerosal, a known neurotoxin that has been linked to many serious health conditions including autism, vaccines are rife with other often questionable components, such as:

• Aluminum
• Antibiotics
• Egg protein
• Formaldehyde
• Monosodium glutamate (MSG)
• Squalene
• Gelatin
• Polysorbate 80
• Aborted human fetal cell lines

As troubling as each of one these chemicals may be in its own right, parents need to also keep in mind that no studies have been done to determine potential synergistic effects of multiple vaccine ingredients given in combination. Safety concerns are further compounded when considering that infants and young children commonly receive multiple vaccines during the same office visit. Amid relentless claims by drug companies and conflict-ridden health agencies that vaccines are "safe and effective" (despite the fact than nearly $4 billion has been paid out by taxpayers to victims of vaccine injury) parents are wise to do their own research before making decisions about vaccines for their kids

Link: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/known-culprits/vaccines/

All of these are part of general anti-vaccination arguments long prior to covid. So, can you clarify - do you think it's just the new mRNA vaccines that are dangerous - or do you agree with childrenshealthdefense in criticizing vaccines in general?

[Kiero]

mRNA is most definitely dangerous, and you Americans over-vaccinate in general. Our routine children's panel in the UK is smaller than yours - and I would note my children had all of theirs.

As an example, you have a varicella (chicken pox) vaccine. Which I think is completely unnecessary. All my children had chicken pox in the normal course of things when they were small. So my position is more nuanced than either of those points.

There are three tests that should be applied to any medical intervention: is it necessary, is it effective, is it safe. The covid jabs fail on all three.

[Kiero]

Another article linked by Robert Malone, on autopsies carried out on the jabbed: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/bhakdiburkhardt-pathology-results

Summary:

The vaccines are bad news. Fifteen bodies were examined (all died from 7 days to 6 months after vaccination). The coroner or the public prosecutor didn't associate the vaccine as the cause of death in any of the cases. However, further examination revealed that the vaccine was implicated in the deaths of 14 of the 15 cases. The most attacked organ was the heart (in all of the people who died), but other organs were attacked as well. The implications are potentially enormous resulting in millions of deaths. The vaccines should be immediately halted.

No need to worry. It is doubtful that anything will happen because the work wasn't published in a peer-reviewed journal so will be ignored by the scientific community. That's just the way it works.

[Mistwell]

Article linked by Robert Malone (only one of the inventors of the mRNA technology used by the jabs): https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/sharyl-attkisson-steven-gundry-pfizer-moderna-vaccines-heart-attack-risk/

"We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination"

Except the study doesn't have the data to support the conclusion he's drawing:

https://www.science20.com/w_glen_pyle/inflaming_the_myths_of_covid19_vaccines-255808

[jhkim]

mRNA is most definitely dangerous, and you Americans over-vaccinate in general. Our routine children's panel in the UK is smaller than yours - and I would note my children had all of theirs.

But the same source that you cited for mRNA being dangerous also claims that other vaccines are dangerous as well. If you believe childrenshealthdefense.org about mRNA vaccines, why did you disregard their warnings about other standard UK vaccines like MMR? This is from years before the covid pandemic, for example:

JCVI Historic Recklessness for Child Health Safety

The JCVI has a legal obligation under English and EU law to apply the precautionary principle in its deliberations. An account of how the JCVI has historically brought about widespread national harm to British children from a reckless approach to child health safety can be seen here: British Government's Reckless Disregard for Child Health Safety

The latest information shows nothing has changed.

There is a considerable and growing body of research either showing how vaccinations are causally involved in or implicated as the only realistic causal explanation for the pandemic increases in autism, asthma, allergies, diabetes and many other new emerging conditions in modern western economies.

https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/03/08/pharma-decide-uk-vaccination/
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/secret-british-mmr-vaccine-files-forced-open-by-legal-action/

[Mistwell]

mRNA is most definitely dangerous, and you Americans over-vaccinate in general. Our routine children's panel in the UK is smaller than yours - and I would note my children had all of theirs.

But the same source that you cited for mRNA being dangerous also claims that other vaccines are dangerous as well. If you believe childrenshealthdefense.org about mRNA vaccines, why did you disregard their warnings about other standard UK vaccines like MMR? This is from years before the covid pandemic, for example:

JCVI Historic Recklessness for Child Health Safety

The JCVI has a legal obligation under English and EU law to apply the precautionary principle in its deliberations. An account of how the JCVI has historically brought about widespread national harm to British children from a reckless approach to child health safety can be seen here: British Government's Reckless Disregard for Child Health Safety

The latest information shows nothing has changed.

There is a considerable and growing body of research either showing how vaccinations are causally involved in or implicated as the only realistic causal explanation for the pandemic increases in autism, asthma, allergies, diabetes and many other new emerging conditions in modern western economies.

https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/03/08/pharma-decide-uk-vaccination/
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/secret-british-mmr-vaccine-files-forced-open-by-legal-action/

Kiero has established that the credibility of the sources he cites is irrelevant to him. If he finds them in a Google search and it supports the position he's taking, that's all that's relevant. If the source turns out to be a routine nutcase, he's not interested in that information and thinks you're just trying to distract from his point.

[Spinachcat]

It is absolutely hysterical to see the libtard clown brigade desperately defending the completely failed TrumpVax which was produced by pharmaceutical companies with decades long criminal histories of medical malfeasance!

Even more hysterical is watching these same imbeciles now championing the mandatory injection of children when (a) the China Virus poses no meaningful threat to children and (b) the TrumpVax never underwent the proper human testing trials that our nation required for every other "vaccine".

But get your booster!

And in a few months, get your next booster!

[Shasarak]

The TrumpVax kept all those fatties alive long enough for Omnicron to eliminate the Wuhan virus.

[Kiero]

Our former Vaccine Minister and now Education Secretary is so keen on the jab (his wife has large shareholding in at least one of the manufacturers) that he's been jabbed on camera at least five times:

[Shasarak]

Our former Vaccine Minister and now Education Secretary is so keen on the jab (his wife has large shareholding in at least one of the manufacturers) that he's been jabbed on camera at least five times:

I believe the current NZ record is 10 times in the same day.

[Kiero]

I believe the current NZ record is 10 times in the same day.

That's impressive commitment to the cause!

Also worth noting Nadim Zahawi, pictured above, owns the polling company YouGov, which mysteriously gives results that always support the government line on whatever questions it asks.

[Kiero]

But the same source that you cited for mRNA being dangerous also claims that other vaccines are dangerous as well. If you believe childrenshealthdefense.org about mRNA vaccines, why did you disregard their warnings about other standard UK vaccines like MMR? This is from years before the covid pandemic, for example:

JCVI Historic Recklessness for Child Health Safety

The JCVI has a legal obligation under English and EU law to apply the precautionary principle in its deliberations. An account of how the JCVI has historically brought about widespread national harm to British children from a reckless approach to child health safety can be seen here: British Government's Reckless Disregard for Child Health Safety

The latest information shows nothing has changed.

There is a considerable and growing body of research either showing how vaccinations are causally involved in or implicated as the only realistic causal explanation for the pandemic increases in autism, asthma, allergies, diabetes and many other new emerging conditions in modern western economies.

https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/03/08/pharma-decide-uk-vaccination/
https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/secret-british-mmr-vaccine-files-forced-open-by-legal-action/

What a bizarre question. I don't regularly read that site and more to the point I don't treat any site as gospel. Each article, and even elements of any article are evaluated on their merits, not simply treated as something I should accept wholecloth because of where it came from.

As for the JCVI, they approved the use of covid jabs. If I looked into the employment history, funding and shareholding of the various members of that committee, how many would turn up ties to AstraZeneca, GSK, Pfizer and others?