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Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

Started by Spinachcat, August 02, 2021, 11:31:32 PM

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Kiero

#735
All-cause mortality up 15% in the UK since the jabbination began. I'm sure that's just a coincidental correlation, though. Even though teenage deaths are up almost 50% since their cohort began being jabbed. We're treated to regular stories now of "sudden" deaths in young teens.

Totally worth it to assuage the fears of neurotic Boomers and Karens, though.

Quote from: Wntrlnd on November 06, 2021, 12:09:07 PM
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/covid-19-do-vaccines-protect-better-than-infection-induced-immunity#The-study-method

I can save you the click and having read it I can say: They do.

Utter bullshit and counter to the data from Israel (significantly more jabbed than the US) which shows natural immunity somewhere in the order of 23 times more effective than that given by the jabs.
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tenbones

Quote from: Wntrlnd on November 06, 2021, 12:09:07 PM
Quote from: tenbones on November 06, 2021, 12:43:24 AM
I've already refused the vax. I have natural immunity.

If they imprison me, they will only make me more powerful than they can know.

(in truth my team handles all the medical and financial data of our regions primary medical research facility which includes Covid. If any of us go to jail over this - people will definitely die, since we supply day-to-day needs of surgeons, doctors and clinical staff.)

But I'm in TX, thankfully our Governor is flipping the finger at Biden. My facility is the largest medical research hospital in Dallas and we're bursting at the seams with (as of 11:38PM tonight) NINE whole cases of Covid in our multi-thousand beds across six hospitals. 7 are non-ICU.

Our nineteen thousand clinical staff that deals directly with Covid patients in research and care, have totaled only 30 cases in the last month and a half. There are ZERO people scheduled for testing tomorrow - in a city of well over a million people, at a centrally located super-facility.

The fear-mongering by people on the left on behalf of the authoritarians is more scary than Covid itself.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/covid-19-do-vaccines-protect-better-than-infection-induced-immunity#The-study-method

I can save you the click and having read it I can say: They do.

Well let me save you the snark and tell you - even in your own article - just like in my own facilities internal studies which supported the Israeli studies, that the exact opposite appeared to be true. In your own article they claim their results were based on "Covid-LIKE symptoms, not necessarily Covid itself." And they cite the Israeli studies that actually show the exact opposite, including long-term longitudinal (to the degree we can have them) which are ongoing - whose test base is an order of magnitude greater than this sample in the article. 2.5-million people vs. 200k.

Their results were vastly different. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03696-9 and the immunity effects last much longer than any of the vaccines.

My facility's data trends much closer to the Israeli's but our sample-size is a lot smaller. So I trust *myself* and my organization, and my numbers. I'm an adult and I can see and compare other people's results too. When I see jargon tossed into an article to justify differing results well that's naturally red flags.

This doesn't mean I dismiss it - what it does do is exemplify the probability of this virus being man-made to affect Humans the way it does in a vascular attack - which impacts everything, not just the respiratory (that's a side-effect).

This means more testing yields clearer paths. Right now, no research studies are even close to the numbers being culled by the Israelis - and here in America, and Europe, there are clear signs of institutional agendas in play.

Kiero

If only they'd carried out the normal 3-5 years of proper testing before rolling out to the general population...
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3catcircus

Quote from: Wntrlnd on November 06, 2021, 12:09:07 PM
Quote from: tenbones on November 06, 2021, 12:43:24 AM
I've already refused the vax. I have natural immunity.

If they imprison me, they will only make me more powerful than they can know.

(in truth my team handles all the medical and financial data of our regions primary medical research facility which includes Covid. If any of us go to jail over this - people will definitely die, since we supply day-to-day needs of surgeons, doctors and clinical staff.)

But I'm in TX, thankfully our Governor is flipping the finger at Biden. My facility is the largest medical research hospital in Dallas and we're bursting at the seams with (as of 11:38PM tonight) NINE whole cases of Covid in our multi-thousand beds across six hospitals. 7 are non-ICU.

Our nineteen thousand clinical staff that deals directly with Covid patients in research and care, have totaled only 30 cases in the last month and a half. There are ZERO people scheduled for testing tomorrow - in a city of well over a million people, at a centrally located super-facility.

The fear-mongering by people on the left on behalf of the authoritarians is more scary than Covid itself.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/covid-19-do-vaccines-protect-better-than-infection-induced-immunity#The-study-method

I can save you the click and having read it I can say: They do.

That study doesn't say what you think it says...

"Among the 6,328 people who were fully vaccinated, 324 (or 5.1%) had a positive COVID-19 PCR test. Among the 1,020 who were unvaccinated and who had previously had the infection, 89 (or 8.7%) had a positive COVID-19 PCR test."

Read that paragraph carefully.  They're comparing apples and bicycles...

Of the fully vaccinated who had a positive test vs. of the unvaccinated who previously had the infection who had a positive test...

PCR will detect viral debris which will be a positive result for 12 or more weeks after someone had been infected (whether symptomatic or asymptomatic).  They're comparing only those who know they had COVID in the unvaxxed vs. all of the vaxxed.  Compare *all* of the unvaxxed vs. *all* of the vaxxed in that study.  I'm betting the percentage for the unvaxxed drops to the same or lower than the vaxxed.

Kiero

The PCR test is bullshit, it wasn't even designed to be used in this way. When run at 40-45 cycles, it will pick up absolutely any viral fragments present and call it "positive".
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Ratman_tf

Quote from: Kiero on November 06, 2021, 03:32:28 PM
If only they'd carried out the normal 3-5 years of proper testing before rolling out to the general population...

Hey man, are you some kinda anti-vaxxer? [/s]
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3catcircus

#741
Quote from: Kiero on November 06, 2021, 03:55:56 PM
The PCR test is bullshit, it wasn't even designed to be used in this way. When run at 40-45 cycles, it will pick up absolutely any viral fragments present and call it "positive".

The good Dr. Mullis was on video destroying Fauxi a decade or so ago when Fauxi was using it to declare someone as infected with the high five (HIV).  I think the guy who invented PCR knows what he's talking about...

I find it "interesting" that the medical establishment has never previously declared someone infected with flu or colds by PCR testing but they're happy to do so for the 'rona.  You could've wandered around asymptomatically carrying Vulcan death flu and we would never have known it...

Kiero

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SHARK

Quote from: Kiero on November 07, 2021, 03:15:42 PM
Gosh, what a surprise this is: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10173159/Covid-plans-ban-hassle-free-foreign-travel-fail-jab.html?fbclid=IwAR0JwEI3ERGMC2KAcXQWl7NOd2BQMjIv4JodCemNJSzMVG3mA6YQawM7A1I

Double-jabbed is no longer "fully vaccinated".

Greetings!

Yep, Kiero! Just like I have been saying since the beginning--this bullshit will never stop. There will always be more "variants" and more booster shots and mandates and restrictions required.

And more tyranny imposed.

Everyone needs to stand up and resist this fucking tyranny.

So sad, Kiero.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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Pat


Kiero

Quote from: SHARK on November 07, 2021, 06:03:24 PM
Greetings!

Yep, Kiero! Just like I have been saying since the beginning--this bullshit will never stop. There will always be more "variants" and more booster shots and mandates and restrictions required.

And more tyranny imposed.

Everyone needs to stand up and resist this fucking tyranny.

So sad, Kiero.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Indeed, plenty of us have been saying this from the beginning, but we're the crazy ones...
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FelixGamingX1

Spoiler Alert: Next social trend, who got more jabs!?
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Kiero

Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on November 11, 2021, 10:26:24 PM
Spoiler Alert: Next social trend, who got more jabs!?

Roll the dice on the adverse reaction chart!
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Pat

Quote from: Kiero on November 12, 2021, 05:55:43 AM
Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on November 11, 2021, 10:26:24 PM
Spoiler Alert: Next social trend, who got more jabs!?

Roll the dice on the adverse reaction chart!
I roll on the wandering government intervention table. Damn it, it's a jab-dart drone! That's not fair, we're only 2nd level!

DM_Curt

Quote from: Kiero on November 12, 2021, 05:55:43 AM
Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on November 11, 2021, 10:26:24 PM
Spoiler Alert: Next social trend, who got more jabs!?

Roll the dice on the adverse reaction chart!
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