Enjoy.

[Grognard GM]

If you live in a cosmopolitan area, exist in communities with cosmopolitan values and/or come from a family with a history of cosmopolitan values then you're more likely to meet a lot of trans people.

See, an open-minded person would look at that data point and think "so either Cosmopolitan areas are supportive areas, where the previously fearful naturally Trans people are finally able to come out; or Cosmopolitan areas are hotbeds for a fad/Mass Hysteria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_hysteria_cases, massively inflating the numbers of legitimate cases."

I'm going to guess open-mindedness is off the table though.

[Zak S]

If you live in a cosmopolitan area, exist in communities with cosmopolitan values and/or come from a family with a history of cosmopolitan values then you're more likely to meet a lot of trans people.

See, an open-minded person would look at that data point and think "so either Cosmopolitan areas are supportive areas, where the previously fearful naturally Trans people are finally able to come out; or Cosmopolitan areas are hotbeds for a fad/Mass Hysteria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_hysteria_cases, massively inflating the numbers of legitimate cases."

I'm going to guess open-mindedness is off the table though.

You can guess whatever you want so long as you say its a guess

[RPGPundit]

I don't think parts of your logic hold up from a technical perspective (as I said earlier).

You think objectively incorrectly then.

Unless someone can prove the accusation that the trans rights movement is "based on narcissism" then that's a false accusation made by Brandon Morse against members of that movement.

And false accusations are bad.

Whut? I'm talking about where you said 'all people are under threat' (specifically in the context that you used it in). It's a classic motte-and-bailey fallacy.

1. Then read the rest of what I said, identify TWO false claims, since if Morse even made one false accusation he did something wrong. That's the morally meaningful thing here.

2. And its not a motte and bailey because that would require me to have 2 separate positions, a motte one and then a different bailey one. Which I do not have. I have but one position: all people are under threat. That Morse may have meant something different doesnt matter since-- see 1 above.

So:

Unless someone can prove the accusation that the trans rights movement is "based on narcissism" then that's a false accusation made by Brandon Morse against members of that movement.

There's an amazing amount of Narcissism in Trans Activism. They demand that every moment of every day be a celebration of their existence and show loyalty tests of people acknowledging whatever their own self-definition is, however ludicrous or absurd, and every aspect of life must be a constant affirmation of those ideas, and they should have a right to do  things with and in front of your children whether you wish it or not, because this too is proof of loyalty, and if you refuse in any way it means that there's a Literal Trans Genocide so it's OK to describe a trans person who murders six people as a "victim too".

The idea that other people have to constantly praise you and affirm you and whatever you say, that's definitely narcissism.

[RPGPundit]

Saved for posterity, Zak is making an accusation that Morse committed a crime.

I didn't say he committed a crime.

(Even the defamation I sued over is breaking the law (its a civil offense) but not a crime (a criminal offense) in many jurisdictions.)

Rather I simply said Morse did something morally wrong.

You said "whether his crime  was..." ergo you claimed he committed a LITERAL Crime, and so you are now a proven liar. In exactly the same way that you claim he is a proven liar for saying that trans people are Narcissists. We learned from you that this can only possibly mean the literal technical definition and it is worth cancelling someone over.

So, are you going to apologize to Brandon Morse now for falsely accusing him of a crime?

[Zak S]

There's an amazing amount of Narcissism in Trans Activism. They demand....

Who is the "they" in this comment?

All trans people?

All trans activists?

Most trans people?

Most trans activists?

People you personally have identified as thought leaders in the trans community?

Some randos you cherry picked to make fun of?

[RPGPundit]

furthermore, in his addled brain being wrong (something he hasn't proven about Morse) is a crime, and has (in his addled brain) revolutionized modern jurisprudence by removing intent as something to take into consideration, ergo manslaughter will be treated as first degree murder from now on.

The point is not to punish Morse for being bad, it is to reduce the harm Morse causes by being bad.

If someone intends to be good and isn't, you still have to address it to prevent harm.

Yes, that's the argument many of your fellow leftists use against YOU.

[Zak S]

Saved for posterity, Zak is making an accusation that Morse committed a crime.

I didn't say he committed a crime.

(Even the defamation I sued over is breaking the law (its a civil offense) but not a crime (a criminal offense) in many jurisdictions.)

Rather I simply said Morse did something morally wrong.

You said "whether his crime  was..." ergo you claimed he committed a LITERAL Crime, and so you are now a proven liar. In exactly the same way that you claim he is a proven liar for saying that trans people are Narcissists. We learned from you that this can only possibly mean the literal technical definition and it is worth cancelling someone over.

So, are you going to apologize to Brandon Morse now for falsely accusing him of a crime?

Here you go:

https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/enjoy/msg1252267/#msg1252267

[Zak S]

furthermore, in his addled brain being wrong (something he hasn't proven about Morse) is a crime, and has (in his addled brain) revolutionized modern jurisprudence by removing intent as something to take into consideration, ergo manslaughter will be treated as first degree murder from now on.

The point is not to punish Morse for being bad, it is to reduce the harm Morse causes by being bad.

If someone intends to be good and isn't, you still have to address it to prevent harm.

Yes, that's the argument many of your fellow leftists use against YOU.

If they do it would be a bad and unjustified argument since I haven't caused harm by being bad.

Like preventing Godzilla from stepping on your house is justified, preventing a squirrel from stepping on your house isn't. It's not a complicated argument and its silly you'd even try to make it.

[RPGPundit]

There's an amazing amount of Narcissism in Trans Activism. They demand....

Who is the "they" in this comment?

All trans people?

All trans activists?

Most trans people?

Most trans activists?

People you personally have identified as thought leaders in the trans community?

Some randos you cherry picked to make fun of?

Trans activism as a movement.  Were the insurrectionists that stormed the Tennessee capital (with the participation of 3 elected democrat politicians) and who claimed that Audrey Hale, who murdered six people (three of them young children), was a "victim" just some randos?   

[RPGPundit]

Saved for posterity, Zak is making an accusation that Morse committed a crime.

I didn't say he committed a crime.

(Even the defamation I sued over is breaking the law (its a civil offense) but not a crime (a criminal offense) in many jurisdictions.)

Rather I simply said Morse did something morally wrong.

You said "whether his crime  was..." ergo you claimed he committed a LITERAL Crime, and so you are now a proven liar. In exactly the same way that you claim he is a proven liar for saying that trans people are Narcissists. We learned from you that this can only possibly mean the literal technical definition and it is worth cancelling someone over.

So, are you going to apologize to Brandon Morse now for falsely accusing him of a crime?

Here you go:

https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/enjoy/msg1252267/#msg1252267

You apologized to us, not to Morse, who was the person you falsely claimed did a "crime". Do you want me to get in touch with Brandon and have arrange for where you can apologize to him for this terrible thing you did that by your own judgment is worthy of cancellation?

[Zak S]

There's an amazing amount of Narcissism in Trans Activism. They demand....

Who is the "they" in this comment?

All trans people?

All trans activists?

Most trans people?

Most trans activists?

People you personally have identified as thought leaders in the trans community?

Some randos you cherry picked to make fun of?

Trans activism as a movement.

How do you decide which individual's actions are the responsibility of "trans activism as a movement"

A trans activist played a jewel thief in I Am The Weapon a few times, are you claiming playing a jewel thief in I Am The Weapon is a characteristic of "trans activism as a movement"?

Were the insurrectionists that stormed the Tennessee capital (with the participation of 3 elected democrat politicians) and who claimed that Audrey Hale, who murdered six people (three of them young children), was a "victim" just some randos?

I don't know anything about that incident so I don't have an opinion on it.

[Zak S]

Saved for posterity, Zak is making an accusation that Morse committed a crime.

I didn't say he committed a crime.

(Even the defamation I sued over is breaking the law (its a civil offense) but not a crime (a criminal offense) in many jurisdictions.)

Rather I simply said Morse did something morally wrong.

You said "whether his crime  was..." ergo you claimed he committed a LITERAL Crime, and so you are now a proven liar. In exactly the same way that you claim he is a proven liar for saying that trans people are Narcissists. We learned from you that this can only possibly mean the literal technical definition and it is worth cancelling someone over.

So, are you going to apologize to Brandon Morse now for falsely accusing him of a crime?

Here you go:

https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/enjoy/msg1252267/#msg1252267

You apologized to us, not to Morse, who was the person you falsely claimed did a "crime". Do you want me to get in touch with Brandon and have arrange for where you can apologize to him for this terrible thing you did that by your own judgment is worthy of cancellation?

I didn't falsely claim he committed a crime. I used a figure of speech, like when:

Adolf Loos said "ornament is crime" .
"Small aim is a crime; have great aim." - A. P. J. Abdul Kalam
"Failure is not a crime. The crime is not trying." - Ron Dellums
"Popularity is a crime from the moment it is sought; it is only a virtue where men have it whether they will or no." -George Savile
"To restrict the artist is a crime. It is to murder germinating life." -Egon Schiele

etc

I was using definition 2 from Oxford Languages:

"an action or activity that, although not illegal, is considered to be evil, shameful, or wrong."

I was apologizing that I used a way of speaking that was over the person I was talking to's head and then clarified to a more literal statement.

If you would like to dispute that and argue that I actually meant a different thing than I claimed I meant then that's an accusation and so you'll have to offer proof.

[RPGPundit]

furthermore, in his addled brain being wrong (something he hasn't proven about Morse) is a crime, and has (in his addled brain) revolutionized modern jurisprudence by removing intent as something to take into consideration, ergo manslaughter will be treated as first degree murder from now on.

The point is not to punish Morse for being bad, it is to reduce the harm Morse causes by being bad.

If someone intends to be good and isn't, you still have to address it to prevent harm.

Yes, that's the argument many of your fellow leftists use against YOU.

If they do it would be a bad and unjustified argument since I haven't caused harm by being bad.

Like preventing Godzilla from stepping on your house is justified, preventing a squirrel from stepping on your house isn't. It's not a complicated argument and its silly you'd even try to make it.

The problem is you don't seem to get (is it Autism, or just Yale?) that YOU are not the one who will get to define what is truth or not, or what is harmful or not. THAT is why any argument against Free Speech is dangerous.
I know that you think you're the smartest man who ever lived, and that whatever you define at any given moment as being true or not, or harmful or not, must by definition be true because you are a the living embodiment of Objectivity, a god-like avatar, and if only the worthless uncreative plebs allowed you, the greatest Artist the world has known since Nero, to be the unimpeded Despot of the World, you would create a paradise on Earth. Even if that wasn't absolute utter bullshit and you would fuck everything up beyond recognition just like every other arrogant piece of shit who deluded himself into believing he would get it right, the simple fact is that you will almost certainly NOT be the one who will have the absolute power. Someone else will. Someone who will not agree with you. And unfortunately, if you don't agree with him, there's a good chance he'll decide YOU are the one who is not being objective, and (as you really should have learned by now) no claim of your own objectivity or innocence will save you from cancellation.

To try to claim that YOU personally should not be cancelled but anyone else who you dislike absolutely should be DOESN'T WORK if your goal is not to be cancelled. Again, one would have hoped that the no doubt horrific suffering you have gone through over these last few years might have opened your eyes to that fact.  But apparently not...

[Zak S]

The problem is you don't seem to get (is it Autism, or just Yale?) that YOU are not the one who will get to define what is truth or not, or what is harmful or not.

The one who can back up their argument gets to decide.

[RPGPundit]

Saved for posterity, Zak is making an accusation that Morse committed a crime.

I didn't say he committed a crime.

(Even the defamation I sued over is breaking the law (its a civil offense) but not a crime (a criminal offense) in many jurisdictions.)

Rather I simply said Morse did something morally wrong.

You said "whether his crime  was..." ergo you claimed he committed a LITERAL Crime, and so you are now a proven liar. In exactly the same way that you claim he is a proven liar for saying that trans people are Narcissists. We learned from you that this can only possibly mean the literal technical definition and it is worth cancelling someone over.

So, are you going to apologize to Brandon Morse now for falsely accusing him of a crime?

Here you go:

https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/enjoy/msg1252267/#msg1252267

You apologized to us, not to Morse, who was the person you falsely claimed did a "crime". Do you want me to get in touch with Brandon and have arrange for where you can apologize to him for this terrible thing you did that by your own judgment is worthy of cancellation?

I didn't falsely claim he committed a crime. I used a figure of speech, like when:

Adolf Loos said "ornament is crime" .
"Small aim is a crime; have great aim." - A. P. J. Abdul Kalam
"Failure is not a crime. The crime is not trying." - Ron Dellums
"Popularity is a crime from the moment it is sought; it is only a virtue where men have it whether they will or no." -George Savile
"To restrict the artist is a crime. It is to murder germinating life." -Egon Schiele

etc

I was using definition 2 from Oxford Languages:

"an action or activity that, although not illegal, is considered to be evil, shameful, or wrong."

I was apologizing that I used a way of speaking that was over the person I was talking to's head and then clarified to a more literal statement.

If you would like to dispute that and argue that I actually meant a different thing than I claimed I meant then that's an accusation and so you'll have to offer proof.

Wow, that's really fascinating how the rules change just for you... because in your case you can say "Crime" without it literally meaning a criminal act, but if Brandon Morse says "narcissist" he MUST mean a literal psychological diagnosis of the mental condition of the same name, and not as a general sense of which it is used in common English of someone who is vain or extremely self-centered.

Funny that.