Enjoy.

[Mistwell]

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[Rob Necronomicon]

Yes Rob. I know the origin of the phrase.

Right... Well, personally I believe pundit just trolls the shit out of the woke scolds and he does it very well to be fair. I don't necessarily agree with everything he says of course.

[Ghostmaker]

LOL calm down.

Christ, Zak, the way you respond you'd think someone had accused you of being David Hill Jr. in disguise.

[Tubesock Army]

What's funny about Zak is most people find him to be an insufferable asshole, and upon hearing that, he demands an exacting definition of "insufferable asshole", conforming of course to his made-up-on-the-spot rules, so he can "debunk" said definition, without realizing that this behavior is, in a nutshell, why most people find him to be an insufferable asshole.

[Rob Necronomicon]

What's funny about Zak is most people find him to be an insufferable asshole, and upon hearing that, he demands an exacting definition of "insufferable asshole", conforming of course to his made-up-on-the-spot rules, so he can "debunk" said definition, without realizing that this behavior is, in a nutshell, why most people find him to be an insufferable asshole.

Indeed... 

[Zak S]

What's funny about Zak is most people find him to be an insufferable asshole, and upon hearing that, he demands an exacting definition of "insufferable asshole", conforming of course to his made-up-on-the-spot rules, so he can "debunk" said definition, without realizing that this behavior is, in a nutshell, why most people find him to be an insufferable asshole.

Translation: "Asshole means someone who asks me to tell the truth".

[Aglondir]

What's funny about Zak is most people find him to be an insufferable asshole, and upon hearing that, he demands an exacting definition of "insufferable asshole", conforming of course to his made-up-on-the-spot rules, so he can "debunk" said definition, without realizing that this behavior is, in a nutshell, why most people find him to be an insufferable asshole.

I saw a (long) interview with Zak on YouTube where he seemed reasonable enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq7gY06hV-o

Start at 50:00. The part where he talks about lawyers and judges looking at internet flamewars and saying "Holy fuck, what's wrong with these people? is this real?"

[Mistwell]

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[Zak S]

What's funny about Zak is most people find him to be an insufferable asshole, and upon hearing that, he demands an exacting definition of "insufferable asshole", conforming of course to his made-up-on-the-spot rules, so he can "debunk" said definition, without realizing that this behavior is, in a nutshell, why most people find him to be an insufferable asshole.

I saw a (long) interview with Zak on YouTube where he seemed reasonable enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq7gY06hV-o

Start at 50:00. The part where he talks about lawyers and judges looking at internet flamewars and saying "Holy fuck, what's wrong with these people? is this real?"

Yeah, professional grown-ups have to look at these conversations where people say 'lol proof im too busy to do that , yr a sshole 4 asking for it'.

Like: this shit may be normal to y'all but to people outside this it seems completely insane to attack someone for pointing out 101-level right-and-wrong stuff.

[Zak S]

Translation: "Asshole means someone who asks me to tell the truth".

You can ask people to tell the truth without being an asshole about it. Or you can be an asshole about it. You do tend to choose the later these days. You didn't used to do that. I expect it's what you've been going through these past few years which has caused you to write like you and everyone you're talking to is under deposition and waiting for a gotcha moment.

No, there was no time where I acted any differently, it's just that you had fewer friends or people you were sympathetic to who'd been tempted to cross the line.

Trolls have been trolling since forever and I have been telling people to stop putting up with it since forever

If you don't call people out for lying or you try to police "tone" in the face of criminally false allegations, you are the asshole.

[Mistwell]

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[Rob Necronomicon]

Translation: "Asshole means someone who asks me to tell the truth".

You can ask people to tell the truth without being an asshole about it. Or you can be an asshole about it. You do tend to choose the later these days. You didn't used to do that. I expect it's what you've been going through these past few years which has caused you to write like you and everyone you're talking to is under deposition and waiting for a gotcha moment.

No, there was no time where I acted any differently, it's just that you had fewer friends or people you were sympathetic to who'd been tempted to cross the line.

Trolls have been trolling since forever and I have been telling people to stop putting up with it since forever

If you don't call people out for lying or you try to police "tone" in the face of criminally false allegations, you are the asshole.

Naw Zak I've read your posts and such for a decade or so and your tone has in fact changed to being much more careful and much more critical of what people say. At least that's my perspective.

Ironically... If he saw what was said about him in some of the RPG Facebook groups he'd probably have a conniption fit (that's not a 'fact' of course just my humble opinion). 

[Zak S]

Translation: "Asshole means someone who asks me to tell the truth".

You can ask people to tell the truth without being an asshole about it. Or you can be an asshole about it. You do tend to choose the later these days. You didn't used to do that. I expect it's what you've been going through these past few years which has caused you to write like you and everyone you're talking to is under deposition and waiting for a gotcha moment.

No, there was no time where I acted any differently, it's just that you had fewer friends or people you were sympathetic to who'd been tempted to cross the line.

Trolls have been trolling since forever and I have been telling people to stop putting up with it since forever

If you don't call people out for lying or you try to police "tone" in the face of criminally false allegations, you are the asshole.

Naw Zak I've read your posts and such for a decade or so and your tone has in fact changed to being much more careful and much more critical of what people say. At least that's my perspective.

You are watching people lie on the internet in a transparent way right in front of you.

If you aren't "critical" of them then you're the asshole.

[Mistwell]

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[Zak S]

Translation: "Asshole means someone who asks me to tell the truth".

You can ask people to tell the truth without being an asshole about it. Or you can be an asshole about it. You do tend to choose the later these days. You didn't used to do that. I expect it's what you've been going through these past few years which has caused you to write like you and everyone you're talking to is under deposition and waiting for a gotcha moment.

No, there was no time where I acted any differently, it's just that you had fewer friends or people you were sympathetic to who'd been tempted to cross the line.

Trolls have been trolling since forever and I have been telling people to stop putting up with it since forever

If you don't call people out for lying or you try to police "tone" in the face of criminally false allegations, you are the asshole.

Naw Zak I've read your posts and such for a decade or so and your tone has in fact changed to being much more careful and much more critical of what people say. At least that's my perspective.

Ironically... If he saw what was said about him in some of the RPG Facebook groups he'd probably have a conniption fit (that's not a 'fact' of course just my humble opinion). 

It's so strange that you'd think after over a decade of this I'd be surprised, or that you seem to think the literal worst things that can be said about a person haven't already been said, in public, by people who got sued about it.

I think that the only explanation for a comment like this is, even after all this time, you're not able to imagine another human being--what it would be like to be them, going through the shit you and other hatemob members put them through day after day.

Like: you spreading misinformation doesn't change my heartbeat. This is the job. This is my life now: documenting the harassment, fact-checking the people lying.

I see stuff, I screencap it, I index the file in case I need it later.