Critical Role Sends $50000 in indirect Aid to Hamas

[RPGPundit]

Just did my first Twitter live stream. Critical role have, by stupidity cowardice or malice, given $50,000 in aid to Hamas.

https://twitter.com/KasimirUrbanski/status/1749856248466444686?t=9JEBNCVPoBWY455l8BMHCQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1LyxBnkmemExN

[Heavy Josh]

Well done!

Your payment from the (((Cabal))) is in the mail. 

Expect delays, as it's really hard to ship thirty shekels of silver by post!

[GeekyBugle]

My bet is on them being stupid cowards.

Anyhow well said.

[RPGPundit]

Well done!

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The fact that I don't get bankrolled is pretty much proof that the "international Jewish conspiracy" thing is complete nonsense. You'd think the Mossad at least would be throwing me a few bucks, but nothing. It's like they actually have principles and understand that they have to win people over with argument and ideas, like they were deeply committed to the values of Western Civilization or something.

[Heavy Josh]

Well done!

Your payment from the (((Cabal))) is in the mail. 

Expect delays, as it's really hard to ship thirty shekels of silver by post!

The fact that I don't get bankrolled is pretty much proof that the "international Jewish conspiracy" thing is complete nonsense. You'd think the Mossad at least would be throwing me a few bucks, but nothing. It's like they actually have principles and understand that they have to win people over with argument and ideas, like they were deeply committed to the values of Western Civilization or something.

To paraphrase Groucho Marx: "Those are good principles. If you don't like them, you can find others."

I used to work for a pro-Israel non-profit. The thing that surprised people the most was when they found out that we had to fundraise, and we got zero funding from any government agencies, foreign or otherwise.

I just read a nice figure: AIPAC has donated roughly $57 million to politicians since 1991.

Qatar has donated $4.7 billion just to US universities since 2001.

[KindaMeh]

Cease Fire is a terrible idea. Because ultimately Hamas has to go, and them sticking around screws over everyone, including also those who reside within the Gaza Strip. Likewise, don't give the UN  anything, they're pretty unapologetically terrible. At a bare minimum, they are the result of geopolitical machinations that are on the whole not positive in nature, because there are a lot of nations that are bad actors and not in favor of the primarily Western-derived instruments of liberty, freedom and basic rights, shall we say. Critical Role on the whole has made bad choices both historically and in this instance.

That said, perhaps nitpicking a bit, but hopefully relevant if it's a concern for you... I'm pretty sure the Red Cross was not involved in the medicine delivery lately only in the direct sense, because Israel's best way to verify was through Qatar. Pretty sure the Red Cross brokered that deal, actually. https://www.icrc.org/en/document/icrc-welcomes-agreement-deliver-medication-hostages-and-medical-facilities-gaza

Its international branch has also been calling for the immediate and unconditional release of all Israeli hostages. It's been serving as an active facilitator, but not participant, to those negotiations and exchanges, which is about as involved as it can get under the whole neutrality and aid delivery setup it has going for it.

That said, the Red Cross and Red Crescent societies are a somewhat fractious bunch, and they do different things and support different procedures and positions depending on their national origin.  because each is essentially its own national branch and linked to its national setup. They don't always get along well, say the same things, or have the same goals in mind. For instance, Japan's doesn't do much disaster relief at all, and South America oftentimes offers weird low-cost medical clinics or something. In the US, the SAF branch does veteran's affairs stuff and supports the US armed forces, which is its own separate thing. The American Red Cross has been backing the International Red Cross (its own unit) in trying to facilitate the recovery of Israeli hostages and deliver key humanitarian supplies to non-combatants, from what I've heard. (Even the latter of which is helpful for Israel's image abroad, I would argue, given the current food situation in the strip, and how much of the aid Israel has allowed in to help alleviate the effects of the war to some degree, have come through verified organizations like the Red Cross.) All of this is to say, there may well be a Red Crescent national society out there that doesn't support the Red Cross in these operations, but if so hopefully they aren't getting any help in international funding.

[yosemitemike]

All a cease fire will accomplish is to keep Hamas in place and guarantee that another attack like October 7th will be carried out.  Israel can no longer tolerate Hamas being in charge in Gaza.  It's remarkable that they tolerated it as long as they did considering the steady stream of terrorist attacks coming from Gaza ever since Hamas took charge.  No other country would have tolerated it for so long.  No other country would have ever been expected to tolerate it.   

[Heavy Josh]

That said, perhaps nitpicking a bit, but hopefully relevant if it's a concern for you... I'm pretty sure the Red Cross was not involved in the medicine delivery lately only in the direct sense, because Israel's best way to verify was through Qatar. Pretty sure the Red Cross brokered that deal, actually. https://www.icrc.org/en/document/icrc-welcomes-agreement-deliver-medication-hostages-and-medical-facilities-gaza

Its international branch has also been calling for the immediate and unconditional release of all Israeli hostages. It's been serving as an active facilitator, but not participant, to those negotiations and exchanges, which is about as involved as it can get under the whole neutrality and aid delivery setup it has going for it.

The ICRC in Gaza has done absolutely none of the things the Red Cross is supposed to do pertaining to hostages or prisoners of war. Israeli hostages have not been visited, have not gotten medicine, and IDF POWs have not been visited, and their treatment according to the laws of war has not been verified (from released videos of some of the capture female soldiers, we can easily see that they have not been treated according to the laws of war, to say the least). The ICRC has been acting as an agent of Hamas in Gaza. It's shameful. Your link is propaganda from a corrupt NGO.

The UN's sole contribution to world peace and security is that it has helped prevent global thermonuclear war. Having a neutral forum to talk to other nuclear-armed powers is good. Aside from that, the UN is a travesty of everything it may have once stood for in 1945. Occasionally it gets food and medicine to hungry and sick people in dire straits. However, in Gaza, UNRWA has been the UN branch of Hamas for the last 20+ years.

[KindaMeh]

On the one hand, it's clear that Israeli hostages have been poorly treated. On the other, the ICRC would not be calling for an immediate and unconditional release of hostages, claiming Hamas is committing war crimes, or brokering medicine delivery to the hostages if it were in Hamas's pocket. Much less claiming that official visits and assessment of hostage health must be allowed, that Hamas is in violation of international law on that, or as an organization requesting access to them personally. All said, it seems far more likely to me that it's just Hamas being shitty, which would make a great deal of sense. They probably won't deal directly with anyone not Qatar, and the Red Cross is basically an unarmed NGO in highly dangerous territory. Like seriously, if Israel can't get the hostages well treated and taken care of, and they're an actual nation with an army on the ground, what the hell is an NGO that can only facilitate discussion gonna do? Barge in guns blazing or something?

Agreed on the UN.

Agreed that more needs to be done in the Gaza Strip both as regards humanitarian aid, human rights violations by Hamas and cetera. That said, I dunno if we can rightly blame the ICRC for being unable to strongarm Hamas. I mean, when have we ever seen them capable of doing that sort of thing, much less doing it? They got some hostages home and got some hostages medicine through discussions they facilitated. I'll give them credit for that even if they aren't superman.

[Jam The MF]

Just did my first Twitter live stream. Critical role have, by stupidity cowardice or malice, given $50,000 in aid to Hamas.

https://twitter.com/KasimirUrbanski/status/1749856248466444686?t=9JEBNCVPoBWY455l8BMHCQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1LyxBnkmemExN

This helps me to easily justify, not being a fan of critical role.  The only great thing they ever did, that impressed me; was allowing a player's fictional character to die.  They failed the die roll, and it was over.

[KindaMeh]

Just did my first Twitter live stream. Critical role have, by stupidity cowardice or malice, given $50,000 in aid to Hamas.

https://twitter.com/KasimirUrbanski/status/1749856248466444686?t=9JEBNCVPoBWY455l8BMHCQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1LyxBnkmemExN

This helps me to easily justify, not being a fan of critical role.  The only great thing they ever did, that impressed me; was allowing a player's fictional character to die.  They failed the die roll, and it was over.

They were always pretty left leaning, I was told. Part of why I didn't get very far into watching their stuff. (Apart from it being quite the slog.) LGBTQIA+++ or whatever apparently came up a fair bit in-game? At least for a fair number of the parts I skimmed and some of their commercial advertising partners. It was all a little too in your face for me, even if I'm not necessarily the sort of person who requires all my positions to be reflected by the producers of content I consume. Not a cancel pig, nor unable to tolerate folks with different lifestyles or beliefs, but it was a bit much for me at times. Maybe it was just the fan community and parts I skimmed though, IDK.

[Valatar]

To be fair to the red cross, this is not a war between nations, this is a bunch of rando terrorists.  I'd be surprised if Hamas as a wider entity even knows where most of those people are currently held, it most assuredly is not holding them in any sort of central facility where they could produce these people for the red cross to interview.

[oggsmash]

Well done!

Your payment from the (((Cabal))) is in the mail. 

Expect delays, as it's really hard to ship thirty shekels of silver by post!

The fact that I don't get bankrolled is pretty much proof that the "international Jewish conspiracy" thing is complete nonsense. You'd think the Mossad at least would be throwing me a few bucks, but nothing. It's like they actually have principles and understand that they have to win people over with argument and ideas, like they were deeply committed to the values of Western Civilization or something.

  That is a theory...or you can get damaging information on them and have them do what you want for free instead.   Mossad is a terrible and ruthless organization that operates with no morals or concern for "convincing with western civilization principles".   That said...so is the CIA, MI5, (whatever the Russians call it),  or any other intelligence operation that pursues results.   Let's not perfume a turd though with pretending intelligence orgs are not literally the most amoral people on the planet...who ONLY care about results. 

[BoxCrayonTales]

Welp, guess I won't finish season 2 then. I refuse to knowingly support misogynistic homophobic antisemitic terrorists.

[Exploderwizard]

Critical Role: Funding terrorism since 2024!  Has quite a ring to it.