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Creator of the "OSR logo" says you can't use his logo and say mean things!

Started by Arkansan, November 16, 2018, 07:10:33 PM

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Bob Something

#30
November 19, 2018, 03:21:46 PM
Venger is a fucking edgelord. News at eleven.
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ArrozConLeche

#31
November 19, 2018, 03:25:11 PM
Quote from: Silas1066;1065335so somehow Venger's little prank on his blog and social media turned into evidence of "hateful" content within OSR systems and supplements themselves?

That is like saying Jeff Dee's Bolshevik shrieking is evidence that all people who produce super-hero RPGs are unreformed Stalinists.

Essentially. Probably also because it was on the heels of Raggi's picture (which I don't see anything wrong with). I guess VS gave them the easy in (depending on how you look at it).

Bob Something

#32
November 19, 2018, 03:35:12 PM
Don't forget we passed the American midterms a while ago: it was a peak of political insanity not seen since the 2016 elections.
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Thornhammer

#33
November 19, 2018, 03:41:38 PM
Quote from: ArrozConLeche;1065334I don't know that he stepped on it inadvertently. I think it was more like this:


I think you could have posted the entire strip that panel belongs to, the whole thing is relevant.

Ratman_tf

#34
November 19, 2018, 06:19:34 PM
Quote from: ArrozConLeche;1065324He was "triggered" by proxy by these:

http://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2018/11/vs-is-no-longer-human.html
http://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2018/11/trans-human-phobia.html

I could see people thinking these are shitty posts in of themselves, but also because it was during Transgender Remembrance Week. At best, I would think he's making fun of Otherkin, Furries or stuff that's (to me) is way out there. At worst, it's an actual dig at transgender people. I personally think that if it's not the latter, it's insensitive, and he must have known he'd get some pretty bad heat.

My problem with Stuart is that he went for a pretty massive land grab where at one point he was strongly implying he owned trademark to the acronym "OSR". He later back tracked from that as people rightly challenged him, but not without first implying (and allowing others to imply) that they were at least suspect of being Nazi/transphobe/trash sympathizers. I have not seen him backtrack from that or from claiming that anything "OSR" that has a dungeon map look might be infringing.

https://plus.google.com/u/5/+StuartRobertson/posts/WFdaMr9GEX1

This shit just gets funnier and funnier.

One dude said some stupid shit, and now we're all Nazis.
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ArrozConLeche

#35
November 19, 2018, 06:46:00 PM
The thing appears to be that unless you're explicitly denouncing Nazis, transphobes and shit, then you're welcoming them. I guess it's kinda like being a Muslim and being grouped in with terrorists unless you denounce them constantly.

JeremyR

#36
November 19, 2018, 07:54:25 PM
Quote from: ArrozConLeche;1065324He was "triggered" by proxy by these:

http://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2018/11/vs-is-no-longer-human.html
http://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2018/11/trans-human-phobia.html

I could see people thinking these are shitty posts in of themselves, but also because it was during Transgender Remembrance Week. At best, I would think he's making fun of Otherkin, Furries or stuff that's (to me) is way out there. At worst, it's an actual dig at transgender people. I personally think that if it's not the latter, it's insensitive, and he must have known he'd get some pretty bad heat.

That's it? I was expecting an actual product or something.

For instance, a couple months ago, someone made a visual novel/dating sim game for PC (available on Steam) where everyone identified as an attack helicopter.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/594350/Attack_Helicopter_Dating_Simulator/

"It's a respectful tribute to Helicopter-gendered individuals."

jeff37923

#37
November 19, 2018, 09:21:13 PM
Quote from: JeremyR;1065389For instance, a couple months ago, someone made a visual novel/dating sim game for PC (available on Steam) where everyone identified as an attack helicopter.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/594350/Attack_Helicopter_Dating_Simulator/

"It's a respectful tribute to Helicopter-gendered individuals."

Now that, is comedy.

Thank you for posting the link.
"Meh."

Thornhammer

#38
November 19, 2018, 10:16:18 PM
Apparently he has now taken his ball and gone home, severing all ties with the OSR and telling everybody to find a new logo?

Warboss Squee

#39
November 19, 2018, 10:43:40 PM
Quote from: ArrozConLeche;1065324He was "triggered" by proxy by these:

http://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2018/11/vs-is-no-longer-human.html
http://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2018/11/trans-human-phobia.html

I could see people thinking these are shitty posts in of themselves, but also because it was during Transgender Remembrance Week. At best, I would think he's making fun of Otherkin, Furries or stuff that's (to me) is way out there. At worst, it's an actual dig at transgender people. I personally think that if it's not the latter, it's insensitive, and he must have known he'd get some pretty bad heat.

My problem with Stuart is that he went for a pretty massive land grab where at one point he was strongly implying he owned trademark to the acronym "OSR". He later back tracked from that as people rightly challenged him, but not without first implying (and allowing others to imply) that they were at least suspect of being Nazi/transphobe/trash sympathizers. I have not seen him backtrack from that or from claiming that anything "OSR" that has a dungeon map look might be infringing.

https://plus.google.com/u/5/+StuartRobertson/posts/WFdaMr9GEX1

Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke. That shit is seriously funny.

Spinachcat

#40
November 20, 2018, 03:54:48 AM
I'd wish Venger many happy tentacles with his new life as a za'akier, but the Emperor demands all Xenos be eradicated!

I can't imagine why Venger's blog post would cause any whining. The Attack Helicopter meme is at least 3 years old.

BUT...far more importantly...Venger is giving away free PDFs!

ALPHA BLUE
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/168961/Alpha-Blue


ADVENTURE WRITING LIKE A FUCKING BOSS
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/215678/Adventure-Writing-Like-A-Fucking-Boss


THE ISLANDS OF PURPLE HAUNTED PUTRESCENCE
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/130556/The-Islands-of-PurpleHaunted-Putrescence

Opaopajr

#42
November 20, 2018, 01:22:45 PM Last Edit: November 20, 2018, 01:57:22 PM by Opaopajr
Quote from: HappyDaze;1065448Free stuff? Free stuff!

I like free stuff! :)

edit: OMG, I think I might be able to use Alpha Blue for running Barbarella! :)
Just make your fuckin\' guy and roll the dice, you pricks. Focus on what\'s interesting, not what gives you the biggest randomly generated virtual penis.  -- J Arcane
 
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Thornhammer

#43
November 20, 2018, 02:58:43 PM
Quote from: Opaopajr;1065490I like free stuff! :)

edit: OMG, I think I might be able to use Alpha Blue for running Barbarella! :)

Sure.  Or Flesh Gordon, for that matter.

Lurtch

#44
November 20, 2018, 08:06:04 PM
Daniel Fox just admitted on Twitter that he doesn't believe in free speech. I love it when bearded white dudes look out for us minorities.
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