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Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

Started by Zirunel, May 31, 2020, 04:01:23 PM

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HappyDaze

Quote from: Zelen on April 21, 2022, 01:12:58 PM
I don't think there's any real world evidence that N95 respirators work either. I mean, if they failed among all of the RCTs in hospitals, I don't have any confidence they'd work anywhere else either.
Is that with or without eye protection?

Mistwell

#4126
Quote from: Pat on April 21, 2022, 01:43:26 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 21, 2022, 12:42:07 AM
Quote from: Kiero on April 20, 2022, 04:53:02 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 20, 2022, 02:57:11 PM
I gotta say, some of the freakouts over the airline mask mandate being struck down are amusing.

The impression I'm getting is that they know they can wear a mask anyways. Heck, wear two.

They're just upset they can't force other people to mask up.

Which has been the issue all along. Little fascists who get off on that feeling of entitlement that they can tell other people what to do.

Pretty sure the airline mask rule was driven by airline employees who didn't want to die from doing their job. Maybe they were mistaken in that belief but that doesn't make them fascists for thinking that.

See, that's a good example of how you attribute to conspiracy theories what can be explained by ordinary people doing ordinary things. To you, the rule had to be about a group wanting to control other people. Reality was people just being afraid for their health.
"I was just a guard at Auschwitz."

Ordinary people are the people who do all the horrible things.

And yet his point was that it was a fascist conspiracy when it wasn't. Which you conveniently sidestepped to virtue signal your stupid rhetoric which had nothing to do with the point being argued or responded to.

Don't feed Kiero's delusions that everything is some secret conspiracy. It's not helping you or him. We can disagree without it being about secret cabals trying to control the world at every step.

Pat

Quote from: Mistwell on April 21, 2022, 05:48:03 PM
Quote from: Pat on April 21, 2022, 01:43:26 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 21, 2022, 12:42:07 AM
Quote from: Kiero on April 20, 2022, 04:53:02 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 20, 2022, 02:57:11 PM
I gotta say, some of the freakouts over the airline mask mandate being struck down are amusing.

The impression I'm getting is that they know they can wear a mask anyways. Heck, wear two.

They're just upset they can't force other people to mask up.

Which has been the issue all along. Little fascists who get off on that feeling of entitlement that they can tell other people what to do.

Pretty sure the airline mask rule was driven by airline employees who didn't want to die from doing their job. Maybe they were mistaken in that belief but that doesn't make them fascists for thinking that.

See, that's a good example of how you attribute to conspiracy theories what can be explained by ordinary people doing ordinary things. To you, the rule had to be about a group wanting to control other people. Reality was people just being afraid for their health.
"I was just a guard at Auschwitz."

Ordinary people are the people who do all the horrible things.

And yet his point was that it was a fascist conspiracy when it wasn't. Which you conveniently sidestepped to virtue signal your stupid rhetoric which had nothing to do with the point being argued or responded to.

Don't feed Kiero's delusions that everything is some secret conspiracy. It's not helping you or him. We can disagree without it being about secret cabals trying to control the world at every step.
I had everything to do with your post, but to you everything is about virtue signals.

I disagree with Kiero on many things, and I disagree with you on other things. But his post doesn't involve a conspiracy theory, and you're diagnosing someone with an extreme mental condition over the internet. So you're the one in the wrong, here.

Ghostmaker

Quote from: Pat on April 21, 2022, 06:46:58 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 21, 2022, 05:48:03 PM
Quote from: Pat on April 21, 2022, 01:43:26 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 21, 2022, 12:42:07 AM
Quote from: Kiero on April 20, 2022, 04:53:02 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 20, 2022, 02:57:11 PM
I gotta say, some of the freakouts over the airline mask mandate being struck down are amusing.

The impression I'm getting is that they know they can wear a mask anyways. Heck, wear two.

They're just upset they can't force other people to mask up.

Which has been the issue all along. Little fascists who get off on that feeling of entitlement that they can tell other people what to do.

Pretty sure the airline mask rule was driven by airline employees who didn't want to die from doing their job. Maybe they were mistaken in that belief but that doesn't make them fascists for thinking that.

See, that's a good example of how you attribute to conspiracy theories what can be explained by ordinary people doing ordinary things. To you, the rule had to be about a group wanting to control other people. Reality was people just being afraid for their health.
"I was just a guard at Auschwitz."

Ordinary people are the people who do all the horrible things.

And yet his point was that it was a fascist conspiracy when it wasn't. Which you conveniently sidestepped to virtue signal your stupid rhetoric which had nothing to do with the point being argued or responded to.

Don't feed Kiero's delusions that everything is some secret conspiracy. It's not helping you or him. We can disagree without it being about secret cabals trying to control the world at every step.
I had everything to do with your post, but to you everything is about virtue signals.

I disagree with Kiero on many things, and I disagree with you on other things. But his post doesn't involve a conspiracy theory, and you're diagnosing someone with an extreme mental condition over the internet. So you're the one in the wrong, here.
Nope! Because Mistwell is on the Right Side Of History, so he is ALWAYS right and good. Therefore, you are guilty of wrongthink.

Welcome to the deplorables, Pat. Here's your complimentary red cap :)

Mistwell

Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 22, 2022, 07:59:53 AM
Quote from: Pat on April 21, 2022, 06:46:58 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 21, 2022, 05:48:03 PM
Quote from: Pat on April 21, 2022, 01:43:26 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 21, 2022, 12:42:07 AM
Quote from: Kiero on April 20, 2022, 04:53:02 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on April 20, 2022, 02:57:11 PM
I gotta say, some of the freakouts over the airline mask mandate being struck down are amusing.

The impression I'm getting is that they know they can wear a mask anyways. Heck, wear two.

They're just upset they can't force other people to mask up.

Which has been the issue all along. Little fascists who get off on that feeling of entitlement that they can tell other people what to do.

Pretty sure the airline mask rule was driven by airline employees who didn't want to die from doing their job. Maybe they were mistaken in that belief but that doesn't make them fascists for thinking that.

See, that's a good example of how you attribute to conspiracy theories what can be explained by ordinary people doing ordinary things. To you, the rule had to be about a group wanting to control other people. Reality was people just being afraid for their health.
"I was just a guard at Auschwitz."

Ordinary people are the people who do all the horrible things.

And yet his point was that it was a fascist conspiracy when it wasn't. Which you conveniently sidestepped to virtue signal your stupid rhetoric which had nothing to do with the point being argued or responded to.

Don't feed Kiero's delusions that everything is some secret conspiracy. It's not helping you or him. We can disagree without it being about secret cabals trying to control the world at every step.
I had everything to do with your post, but to you everything is about virtue signals.

I disagree with Kiero on many things, and I disagree with you on other things. But his post doesn't involve a conspiracy theory, and you're diagnosing someone with an extreme mental condition over the internet. So you're the one in the wrong, here.
Nope! Because Mistwell is on the Right Side Of History, so he is ALWAYS right and good. Therefore, you are guilty of wrongthink.

Welcome to the deplorables, Pat. Here's your complimentary red cap :)

What on earth does "I think Kiero has mental health issues for seeing conspiracies in literally everything he thinks is bad" about the right or wrong side of history and Pat being deplorable?

Right, it was you making a drive by troll.

Kiero

#4130
Quote from: Mistwell on April 21, 2022, 12:17:19 AM
Dude, there is nobody here, not one single other person here, who I ever say has mental issues. You're it. You do have mental health issues. You are in fact seeing conspiracies in everything. It is a real problem. You would be happier if you sought help. It's good that people tell you.

My mental health is as robust as my physical health, thanks for asking. The person living in a delusional world is you, you can't even see what's going on around you or the direction of travel. You think the sudden spike in fuel costs is a mistake? We're headed for the WEF's endgame, whether you can see it or not, because most of the world's governments are on board with the agenda.

It's no "conspiracy" when everything is out on the open for anyone to see. They're so arrogant they don't care that it's public.

Quote from: Mistwell on April 21, 2022, 05:48:03 PM
And yet his point was that it was a fascist conspiracy when it wasn't. Which you conveniently sidestepped to virtue signal your stupid rhetoric which had nothing to do with the point being argued or responded to.

Don't feed Kiero's delusions that everything is some secret conspiracy. It's not helping you or him. We can disagree without it being about secret cabals trying to control the world at every step.

No, my point was every jumped-up Karen and Trevor harbours fascist fantasies where they get to be in charge of other people. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "conspiracies".
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Mistwell

#4131
Quote from: Kiero on April 22, 2022, 02:05:25 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 21, 2022, 12:17:19 AM
Dude, there is nobody here, not one single other person here, who I ever say has mental issues. You're it. You do have mental health issues. You are in fact seeing conspiracies in everything. It is a real problem. You would be happier if you sought help. It's good that people tell you.

My mental health is as robust as my physical health, thanks for asking. The person living in a delusional world is you, you can't even see what's going on around you or the direction of travel. You think the sudden spike in fuel costs is a mistake? We're headed for the WEF's endgame, whether you can see it or not, because most of the world's governments are on board with the agenda.

It's no "conspiracy" when everything is out on the open for anyone to see. They're so arrogant they don't care that it's public.

Quote from: Mistwell on April 21, 2022, 05:48:03 PM
And yet his point was that it was a fascist conspiracy when it wasn't. Which you conveniently sidestepped to virtue signal your stupid rhetoric which had nothing to do with the point being argued or responded to.

Don't feed Kiero's delusions that everything is some secret conspiracy. It's not helping you or him. We can disagree without it being about secret cabals trying to control the world at every step.

No, my point was every jumped-up Karen and Trevor harbours fascist fantasies where they get to be in charge of other people. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "conspiracies".

You just claimed a massive worldwide conspiracy at the top of your post concerning oil prices (a hilarious one where you claimed most of the worlds governments agreed on a topic - which in itself is an obvious nutcase position because most of the worlds governments cannot agree on even the simplest of things much less that type of topic), only to deny you're posting about conspiracies at the bottom.

You've claimed Covid was a massive worldwide conspiracy as well.

Pat

Quote from: Mistwell on April 22, 2022, 09:32:10 PM
Quote from: Kiero on April 22, 2022, 02:05:25 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on April 21, 2022, 05:48:03 PM
And yet his point was that it was a fascist conspiracy when it wasn't. Which you conveniently sidestepped to virtue signal your stupid rhetoric which had nothing to do with the point being argued or responded to.

Don't feed Kiero's delusions that everything is some secret conspiracy. It's not helping you or him. We can disagree without it being about secret cabals trying to control the world at every step.

No, my point was every jumped-up Karen and Trevor harbours fascist fantasies where they get to be in charge of other people. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "conspiracies".

You just claimed a massive worldwide conspiracy at the top of your post concerning oil prices (a hilarious one where you claimed most of the worlds governments agreed on a topic - which in itself is an obvious nutcase position because most of the worlds governments cannot agree on even the simplest of things much less that type of topic), only to deny you're posting about conspiracies at the bottom.

You've claimed Covid was a massive worldwide conspiracy as well.
You quoted his post, and claimed he said something about a fascist conspiracy. Which he didn't. Ignoring that and making similar accusations about other unspecified posts doesn't lend those claims much credibility.

You made a mistake. Brush it off, and move on. Don't keep digging the hole.

SHARK

Greetings!

You know what? All the weak, Liberal pussies that cry and shriek about "CONSPIRACY THEORIES!!!" can get fucked.

There is a fucking DEEP STATE.

There are secretive families and gigantic corporations working behind the scenes to gain ever more wealth, power, and control.

I've known all of this for some time--and the fucking Liberals condescendingly smirk for years about "Conspiracy Theories" and those crazy right wingers! Fuck them.

In college, at my university, I had several courses in the Political Science department, as Political Science was one of my specialties. I had one particular university professor that headed the class on "Politics of the Future"--and we studied dozens of different books and sources, all authored by doctors, scholars, various experts, journalists, investigators, and so on. The topic and evidence for "The Illuminati", the Bildebergers, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Affairs, various international families, all being hooked into a globalist-minded association was demonstrated conclusively.

Imagine that? Certainly, about 20 years late to the party, so to speak, but late is better than not arriving at all. Conspiracy Theories my ass. Many of them are fucking true, just give it some time to ripen and be brought forth. Many of them have, especially in more recent years. So yeah, fuck the Liberal pussies. There is a fucking Globalist Deep State, and they are working on subjugating the world and corrupting it and everyone in it.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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GeekyBugle

Quote from: SHARK on April 25, 2022, 07:29:07 AM
Greetings!

You know what? All the weak, Liberal pussies that cry and shriek about "CONSPIRACY THEORIES!!!" can get fucked.

There is a fucking DEEP STATE.

There are secretive families and gigantic corporations working behind the scenes to gain ever more wealth, power, and control.

I've known all of this for some time--and the fucking Liberals condescendingly smirk for years about "Conspiracy Theories" and those crazy right wingers! Fuck them.

In college, at my university, I had several courses in the Political Science department, as Political Science was one of my specialties. I had one particular university professor that headed the class on "Politics of the Future"--and we studied dozens of different books and sources, all authored by doctors, scholars, various experts, journalists, investigators, and so on. The topic and evidence for "The Illuminati", the Bildebergers, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Affairs, various international families, all being hooked into a globalist-minded association was demonstrated conclusively.

Imagine that? Certainly, about 20 years late to the party, so to speak, but late is better than not arriving at all. Conspiracy Theories my ass. Many of them are fucking true, just give it some time to ripen and be brought forth. Many of them have, especially in more recent years. So yeah, fuck the Liberal pussies. There is a fucking Globalist Deep State, and they are working on subjugating the world and corrupting it and everyone in it.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Is it a conspiracy theory when they are telling everybody what they are doing? It's right in the WEF website.
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HappyDaze

Quote from: SHARK on April 25, 2022, 07:29:07 AM
Greetings!

You know what? All the weak, Liberal pussies that cry and shriek about "CONSPIRACY THEORIES!!!" can get fucked.

There is a fucking DEEP STATE.

There are secretive families and gigantic corporations working behind the scenes to gain ever more wealth, power, and control.

I've known all of this for some time--and the fucking Liberals condescendingly smirk for years about "Conspiracy Theories" and those crazy right wingers! Fuck them.

In college, at my university, I had several courses in the Political Science department, as Political Science was one of my specialties. I had one particular university professor that headed the class on "Politics of the Future"--and we studied dozens of different books and sources, all authored by doctors, scholars, various experts, journalists, investigators, and so on. The topic and evidence for "The Illuminati", the Bildebergers, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Affairs, various international families, all being hooked into a globalist-minded association was demonstrated conclusively.

Imagine that? Certainly, about 20 years late to the party, so to speak, but late is better than not arriving at all. Conspiracy Theories my ass. Many of them are fucking true, just give it some time to ripen and be brought forth. Many of them have, especially in more recent years. So yeah, fuck the Liberal pussies. There is a fucking Globalist Deep State, and they are working on subjugating the world and corrupting it and everyone in it.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Oh look, another convert of the Pillow Prophet. Fucking idiot.

Kiero

#4136
Quote from: Mistwell on April 22, 2022, 09:32:10 PM
You just claimed a massive worldwide conspiracy at the top of your post concerning oil prices (a hilarious one where you claimed most of the worlds governments agreed on a topic - which in itself is an obvious nutcase position because most of the worlds governments cannot agree on even the simplest of things much less that type of topic), only to deny you're posting about conspiracies at the bottom.

You've claimed Covid was a massive worldwide conspiracy as well.

For a supposed lawyer, you really don't appear to understand the definition of common words. If it's done openly, it's not a "conspiracy".

The response to covid, a relatively minor seasonal infection, was most definitely orchestrated to increase government power. If you still truly believe there was a global pandemic, a health emergency that necessitated any of this, then you're even more stupid than you appear.

I'd love to know how you explain the World Health Organisation's push for an international treaty that would give it the power to override the elected governments of every signatory nation in the event of a "pandemic", and secondly what the fuck that has to do with the World Economic Forum, who are very publicly partnering the WHO on the matter?
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dkabq

The big hospital where I live is at 137% of nameplate capacity, with 10 wu-flu positive cases. ICU is at 113%. Doing the math finds that the ICU and the hospital overall would be above 100% capacity without the wu-flu cases. Funny how, unlike during covid surges, this isn't mentioned in the local media. It's almost like this is so common-place that it isn't worth reporting on.

Spoiler: going over 100% capacity happens on a fairly regular basis.

I guess that some over-capacities are more equal than others.

Ratman_tf

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Ghostmaker

Quote from: Ratman_tf on April 26, 2022, 06:01:40 PM
Investigation into a twitter "doctor".

https://sarahburwick.substack.com/p/who-is-risa-hoshino?s=r
And you wonder... was this something 'Doctor' Hoshino came up with, or did someone suggest it to her?