Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

[Kiero]

  Well, I do hope it will not turn out this vaccine, or something in it, does not cause cancer or some other horrible problem as a MYRIAD of the other FDA approved products and drugs from the companies that created this vaccine have done.  All those of course had a proper period of clinical trials and went through all the time and red tape a drug normally has to go through.   I am sure being free of liability and able to do it super fast would not have created something over looked, or under cared about long term in this race of immoral titans to cash in.

I can't imagine why Pfizer are so desperate to delay the release of their trial data...

[Kiero]

"Free" covid tests to be scrapped from next week: https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/free-covid-tests-pcr-scrapped/

Cue meltdown from hypochondriacs.

[dkabq]

The latest from Vinay Prasad:

How the CDC Abandoned Science | My Article in Tablet Magazine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C6524soTnA
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/how-the-cdc-abandoned-science

[Pat]

Project Veritas has an executive officer of the FDA on video, talking about the financial incentive the pharma companies have to push the vaccines, the conflicts of interest at the FDA, a governmental culture that prevents speaking up, and of course eternal vaccine mandates.

The drug companies, the food companies, the vaccine companies. So, they pay us hundreds of millions of dollars a year to hire and keep the reviewers to approve their products.

You'll have to get an annual shot [COVID vaccine].  I mean, it hasn't been formally announced yet 'cause they don't want to, like, rile everyone up.

They're not going to not approve [emergency use authorization for children five years old or less]."

[Annual vaccines will] be recurring fountain of revenue. It might not be that much initially, but it'll be recurring -- if they can -- if they can get every person required at an annual vaccine, that is a recurring return of money going into their company.

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/fda-executive-officer-on-hidden-camera-reveals-future-covid-policy-biden/
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/fda-executive-officer-exposes-close-ties-between-agency-and-pharmaceutical/

[dkabq]

How do you create metrics to remove COVID19 restrictions that never had data in the first place?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NALzWyASruw

Looking forward with bated breath to the critiques from the mask apologists on Dr. Prasad's videos.

[Fheredin]

I haven't listened to him for a while, but Campbell was one my major sources of daily updates during the start of the pandemic. He's an interesting mix, because he's clearly in favor of big government everything and mandates, but he's also held a couple anti-narrative positions. For instance, he was a big proponent of vitamin D from the start. And less than two weeks ago, he was "fact checked" by the BBC, who claimed he said only 17,000 people died of covid-19. Of course, that's a blatant lie. What he did do is go through a government report listing the number of people in Wales and England who died of covid-19. The report broke the deaths down by preexisting condition, like diabetes or hypertension, and then concluded with the final line, which was the number of people who died of covid-19 without any pre-existing conditions. That's where the 17,000 deaths came from.

The BBC is roughly as reliable as Snopes.

Same. I'm glad I found him when the thing was first breaking. I don't know if Campbell is ever correct on a particular detail, but I do trust his commentary to be sincere more than the bobble heads on mainstream news.

Campbell is a good academic paper reader, although a touch too concerned with being in-line with mainstream narratives. If he doesn't have any immediate information to the contrary, he will default to mainstream wisdom rather than being critical. My preferred data commentator is by far Chris Martenson from Peak Prosperity, as he is qualified to read these documents, basically doesn't care what other people think of him because he's an entrepreneur rather than an academic, and has shown a knack to be obscenely ahead of the curve on things like Lab Leak. His presentation on how SARS-CoV-2 was a viral chimera of at least two viruses and an insertion is almost a year and a half old at this point. But academic readers definitely play a part. I regularly listen to Campbell, Vinay Prasad, Dr. Dhand, and Dr. Moran. I think each of these readers brings a different content selection bias, though, and even as a collective it's still likely an incomplete picture.

[dkabq]

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/the-mask-debacle

[Ratman_tf]

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/the-mask-debacle

In an alternate universe, Trump got re-elected in 2020, and Republicans and Democrats switched sides being "anti-vaxx" and "pro-mandates".

[dkabq]

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/the-mask-debacle

In an alternate universe, Trump got re-elected in 2020, and Republicans and Democrats switched sides being "anti-vaxx" and "pro-mandates".

Yep yep. I remember pre-2020 election all of the Ds were gainsaying the vaccine. But once Brandon got elected, the script switched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SCbegZO13w

Anyone got a similar video of Rs doing the do-si-do?

[Ghostmaker]

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/the-mask-debacle

In an alternate universe, Trump got re-elected in 2020, and Republicans and Democrats switched sides being "anti-vaxx" and "pro-mandates".

Yep yep. I remember pre-2020 election all of the Ds were gainsaying the vaccine. But once Brandon got elected, the script switched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SCbegZO13w

Anyone got a similar video of Rs doing the do-si-do?

There's probably some. Politicians tend to be like that.

[GeekyBugle]

Project Veritas has an executive officer of the FDA on video, talking about the financial incentive the pharma companies have to push the vaccines, the conflicts of interest at the FDA, a governmental culture that prevents speaking up, and of course eternal vaccine mandates.

The drug companies, the food companies, the vaccine companies. So, they pay us hundreds of millions of dollars a year to hire and keep the reviewers to approve their products.

You'll have to get an annual shot [COVID vaccine].  I mean, it hasn't been formally announced yet 'cause they don't want to, like, rile everyone up.

They're not going to not approve [emergency use authorization for children five years old or less]."

[Annual vaccines will] be recurring fountain of revenue. It might not be that much initially, but it'll be recurring -- if they can -- if they can get every person required at an annual vaccine, that is a recurring return of money going into their company.

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/fda-executive-officer-on-hidden-camera-reveals-future-covid-policy-biden/
https://www.projectveritas.com/news/fda-executive-officer-exposes-close-ties-between-agency-and-pharmaceutical/

Just imagine, lets say a dollar per jab once a year, that's 7+ billion dollaroos per year. But we all know it's not going to be a dollar a pop but way more and probably twice a year if they can get away with it.

[RPGPundit]

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/the-mask-debacle

In an alternate universe, Trump got re-elected in 2020, and Republicans and Democrats switched sides being "anti-vaxx" and "pro-mandates".

Not quite. If Trump had won, he probably wouldn't have instituted mandated vaccination. So you would have had a lot of democrats refusing to be vaxxed because of TDS, but also some anti-vax conservatives who would refuse to be vaccinated.  You'd also probably have left-wing media claiming that the ongoing existence of Covid was "proof" that the "Trump vaccine" was not effective.

[Pat]

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/the-mask-debacle

In an alternate universe, Trump got re-elected in 2020, and Republicans and Democrats switched sides being "anti-vaxx" and "pro-mandates".

Not quite. If Trump had won, he probably wouldn't have instituted mandated vaccination. So you would have had a lot of democrats refusing to be vaxxed because of TDS, but also some anti-vax conservatives who would refuse to be vaccinated.  You'd also probably have left-wing media claiming that the ongoing existence of Covid was "proof" that the "Trump vaccine" was not effective.

Biden didn't institute vaccine mandates, until they were already widespread. The real war over mandates was fought in the states.

A reflexive opposition to Trump definitely drove a lot of things, like the way the left completely ignored the pre-existing scientific consensus on masks in early 2020. But I still find it very weird how facilely the Democrats switched from being fervently opposed to Trump's vaxxes, to their current opposition to basic bodily autonomy, so I'm not clear how it would have played out if Trump had won a second term. I think the switch might have happened anyway, though it would certainly have been more conflicted. Because even if there was some degree of rapprochement at the policy level, they would have felt the need to posture and virtue signal, to make sure everyone knew they still hated Trump. It's even possible to argue that it would have given more political heft to the state and local vaccine mandates, because they could have pointed to Trump's rejection of a national vaccine mandate as a failure that needs to be corrected at the state or local level.

[Zelen]

A reflexive opposition to Trump definitely drove a lot of things, like the way the left completely ignored the pre-existing scientific consensus on masks in early 2020. But I still find it very weird how facilely the Democrats switched from being fervently opposed to Trump's vaxxes, to their current opposition to basic bodily autonomy, so I'm not clear how it would have played out if Trump had won a second term. I think the switch might have happened anyway, though it would certainly have been more conflicted. Because even if there was some degree of rapprochement at the policy level, they would have felt the need to posture and virtue signal, to make sure everyone knew they still hated Trump. It's even possible to argue that it would have given more political heft to the state and local vaccine mandates, because they could have pointed to Trump's rejection of a national vaccine mandate as a failure that needs to be corrected at the state or local level.

It's not all that weird, because the D-team is characterized above all by oversocialization and an incredible attunement to the orthodoxy disseminated through the TV & other propaganda outlets. We saw it happen in the span of days with the mask issue when Fauci (etal.) was advising against masks, and then suddenly U-turned when the cheque cleared. All D-team members immediately updated to the new "correct" belief system, without asking any uncomfortable questions.

It's happened on basically every issue I can think of: Masks, forced medical treatment, internal passports, child sexual abuse, international wars, factory farming, GMOs, etc. As soon as the propaganda outlets began signaling that a certain thing was now part of the orthodox belief system, that's all it takes.

[Pat]

A reflexive opposition to Trump definitely drove a lot of things, like the way the left completely ignored the pre-existing scientific consensus on masks in early 2020. But I still find it very weird how facilely the Democrats switched from being fervently opposed to Trump's vaxxes, to their current opposition to basic bodily autonomy, so I'm not clear how it would have played out if Trump had won a second term. I think the switch might have happened anyway, though it would certainly have been more conflicted. Because even if there was some degree of rapprochement at the policy level, they would have felt the need to posture and virtue signal, to make sure everyone knew they still hated Trump. It's even possible to argue that it would have given more political heft to the state and local vaccine mandates, because they could have pointed to Trump's rejection of a national vaccine mandate as a failure that needs to be corrected at the state or local level.

It's not all that weird, because the D-team is characterized above all by oversocialization and an incredible attunement to the orthodoxy disseminated through the TV & other propaganda outlets. We saw it happen in the span of days with the mask issue when Fauci (etal.) was advising against masks, and then suddenly U-turned when the cheque cleared. All D-team members immediately updated to the new "correct" belief system, without asking any uncomfortable questions.

It's happened on basically every issue I can think of: Masks, forced medical treatment, internal passports, child sexual abuse, international wars, factory farming, GMOs, etc. As soon as the propaganda outlets began signaling that a certain thing was now part of the orthodox belief system, that's all it takes.

I still find that utterly bizarre.