Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/

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 I am sure the combined psychological pressure on people who get covid, combined with a financial incentive to have covid patients has never led to an influx of hospitalizations at any hospital in the country.

[HappyDaze]

I am sure the combined psychological pressure on people who get covid, combined with a financial incentive to have covid patients has never led to an influx of hospitalizations at any hospital in the country.

It's interesting to see that the article you pasted says that, despite the differences in the payouts, there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting and that it's "very unlikely" data are being falsified or that money is the motivation for the classifications. You're seeing a conspiracy that the authors of your article are saying does not exist, because you just have a gut feeling that it must be so.

[oggsmash]

 I never said there was a conspiracy.  You keep saying things I am not saying.  I do think there are people who are going to the hospital and some getting admitted who really did not need to be admitted, and the hospital is going to be incentivized to err on the side of an admission with a covid patient who is complaining with their symptoms.   I place the whales share of the blame for these people taking the trip on constantly getting the shit scared out of them about covid.

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  The article was also from april 2020, and the reason I posted it was to specifically demonstrate a financial incentive that you implied did not exist, referring to talking out of my ass.  So it certainly illustrates what I $aid about other factor$.

[HappyDaze]

  The article was also from april 2020, and the reason I posted it was to specifically demonstrate a financial incentive that you implied did not exist, referring to talking out of my ass.  So it certainly illustrates what I $aid about other factor$.

The factors you mention don't determine admissions. They determine the reimbursement from Medicare admissions. The guys doing the decisions on who's admitted are--per your own article--very unlikely to be considering the reimbursement when determining who is admitted. Your factor is thus not a factor at the point of deciding who is admitted, only how those admitted are billed to Medicare.

[Kiero]

It's interesting to see that the article you pasted says that, despite the differences in the payouts, there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting and that it's "very unlikely" data are being falsified or that money is the motivation for the classifications. You're seeing a conspiracy that the authors of your article are saying does not exist, because you just have a gut feeling that it must be so.

It's not a conspiracy when it's done openly, you buffoon.

[dkabq]

I saw this
https://www.vox.com/22699019/covid-19-children-kids-risk-hospitalization-death

when I was reading this
https://www.sfgate.com/politics-op-eds/article/California-vaccine-mandate-schools-COVID-omicron-16832461.php

You know it's bad when Vox is publishing an article counter to the leftist narrative.

[Ghostmaker]

The ship is being turned onto a new course.

'Doctor' Leana Wen has suddenly started touting relaxing restrictions and removing masking mandates.

They're so fucking obvious it's not even funny.

[dkabq]

The ship is being turned onto a new course.

'Doctor' Leana Wen has suddenly started touting relaxing restrictions and removing masking mandates.

They're so fucking obvious it's not even funny.

I have been arguing since March 2020 that unless you are wearing a properly-fitted, properly-worn N-95 mask you are just playing fuck around. And the one time that I know that St. Fauci wasn't lying was in this 60 Minutes interview where he said (effectively) the same thing (which was the scientific consensus at that time). Only someone that believes in SCIENCE!(tm) would believe that in the span of a month or two, there had been sufficient studies performed to change that consensus.

It is of some cold comfort to see these fuck-nuts have stopped spreading this particular lie.

[oggsmash]

The ship is being turned onto a new course.

'Doctor' Leana Wen has suddenly started touting relaxing restrictions and removing masking mandates.

They're so fucking obvious it's not even funny.

I have been arguing since March 2020 that unless you are wearing a properly-fitted, properly-worn N-95 mask you are just playing fuck around. And the one time that I know that St. Fauci wasn't lying was in this 60 Minutes interview where he said (effectively) the same thing (which was the scientific consensus at that time). Only someone that believes in SCIENCE!(tm) would believe that in the span of a month or two, there had been sufficient studies performed to change that consensus.

It is of some cold comfort to see these fuck-nuts have stopped spreading this particular lie.

  I disagree a bit.  I am pretty sure an industrial respirator or a gas mask would also provide protection,  but they are not so fun to wear, but a lot easier to breathe in than almost any other mask.

[dkabq]

The ship is being turned onto a new course.

'Doctor' Leana Wen has suddenly started touting relaxing restrictions and removing masking mandates.

They're so fucking obvious it's not even funny.

I have been arguing since March 2020 that unless you are wearing a properly-fitted, properly-worn N-95 mask you are just playing fuck around. And the one time that I know that St. Fauci wasn't lying was in this 60 Minutes interview where he said (effectively) the same thing (which was the scientific consensus at that time). Only someone that believes in SCIENCE!(tm) would believe that in the span of a month or two, there had been sufficient studies performed to change that consensus.

It is of some cold comfort to see these fuck-nuts have stopped spreading this particular lie.

  I disagree a bit.  I am pretty sure an industrial respirator or a gas mask would also provide protection,  but they are not so fun to wear, but a lot easier to breathe in than almost any other mask.

I stand corrected. I should have said "unless you are at least wearing..." 

[Kiero]

I have been arguing since March 2020 that unless you are wearing a properly-fitted, properly-worn N-95 mask you are just playing fuck around. And the one time that I know that St. Fauci wasn't lying was in this 60 Minutes interview where he said (effectively) the same thing (which was the scientific consensus at that time). Only someone that believes in SCIENCE!(tm) would believe that in the span of a month or two, there had been sufficient studies performed to change that consensus.

It is of some cold comfort to see these fuck-nuts have stopped spreading this particular lie.

You might question whether they were properly fitted/worn, but N-95 masks have been the law in Germany for well over a year. They didn't make any difference.

[oggsmash]

The ship is being turned onto a new course.

'Doctor' Leana Wen has suddenly started touting relaxing restrictions and removing masking mandates.

They're so fucking obvious it's not even funny.

I have been arguing since March 2020 that unless you are wearing a properly-fitted, properly-worn N-95 mask you are just playing fuck around. And the one time that I know that St. Fauci wasn't lying was in this 60 Minutes interview where he said (effectively) the same thing (which was the scientific consensus at that time). Only someone that believes in SCIENCE!(tm) would believe that in the span of a month or two, there had been sufficient studies performed to change that consensus.

It is of some cold comfort to see these fuck-nuts have stopped spreading this particular lie.

  I disagree a bit.  I am pretty sure an industrial respirator or a gas mask would also provide protection,  but they are not so fun to wear, but a lot easier to breathe in than almost any other mask.

I stand corrected. I should have said "unless you are at least wearing..." 

  No worries, I just said even on this board for over a year, if a person is really concerned about catching covid, they need to stop worrying about what anyone else wears, and just wear a respirator or gas mask, and they will then be as protected as they can get.   The push back I kept getting about how everyone else needs a cloth mask to go with their cloth mask just made me laugh at first, but these people were serious.   But I think lots of them were the same people buying all the hand sanitizer, rigorous in everyone having a mask, and then go out to a restaurant and eat and drink in a room with lots of other people....so it gets confusing as to what people see as risk or not a risk.

[Ratman_tf]

*Consults poll numbers*

The Science says Covid is over!