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Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

Started by Zirunel, May 31, 2020, 04:01:23 PM

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dkabq

Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 08:22:24 PM
So Operation Warp Speed should not have been done and we all should still be waiting on any vaccines then?

I was all for it up to the point of, "...and then pushed them on as many people as possible while intentionally suppressing any investigation into side effects as being "anti-vaxx".".

And I am still for anyone that wants to take the vaccine being able to take the vaccine. But forcing people to take a vaccine that does not stop you from transmitting covid or catching covid is bullshit. Or forcing kids to take the vaccine, when there is more risk of dying in a car accident over then course of a year than them dying from covid.

Pat

Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 07:11:25 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 06, 2022, 06:46:54 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: Kiero on February 06, 2022, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 09:34:09 AM
Read the goddamn publication date. And if it hasn't moved from test tube to human clinical trials, then it's not worth crowing about.

I don't give a fuck about clinical trials, Pfizer don't.
Are you against the covid vaccines for whatever reason you either heard or read on the internet or does that also include all vacccines?
Are are you in favor of vaccines for whatever reason you heard on Pzifer-sponsored media, and does that include all vaccines like the early polio vaccines?
Since I'm not in an iron lung, the answer should be obvious. But please, explain why you are against the covid vaccines.
Oh, so you believe everyone who hasn't taken one of the covid-19 vaccines is on an iron lung? Please explain more.

TNMalt

Quote from: Pat on February 06, 2022, 08:53:26 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 07:11:25 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 06, 2022, 06:46:54 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: Kiero on February 06, 2022, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 09:34:09 AM
Read the goddamn publication date. And if it hasn't moved from test tube to human clinical trials, then it's not worth crowing about.

I don't give a fuck about clinical trials, Pfizer don't.
Are you against the covid vaccines for whatever reason you either heard or read on the internet or does that also include all vacccines?
Are are you in favor of vaccines for whatever reason you heard on Pzifer-sponsored media, and does that include all vaccines like the early polio vaccines?
Since I'm not in an iron lung, the answer should be obvious. But please, explain why you are against the covid vaccines.
Oh, so you believe everyone who hasn't taken one of the covid-19 vaccines is on an iron lung? Please explain more.
I was referring to the polio vaccine but I guess you can't keep your viruses straight. But please Pat, enlighten me on your views on the covid vaccines. Tell us how you really feel.

Zelen

Please name one country where the injections stopped Covid-19.

Pat

Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 09:08:39 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 06, 2022, 08:53:26 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 07:11:25 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 06, 2022, 06:46:54 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: Kiero on February 06, 2022, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 09:34:09 AM
Read the goddamn publication date. And if it hasn't moved from test tube to human clinical trials, then it's not worth crowing about.

I don't give a fuck about clinical trials, Pfizer don't.
Are you against the covid vaccines for whatever reason you either heard or read on the internet or does that also include all vacccines?
Are are you in favor of vaccines for whatever reason you heard on Pzifer-sponsored media, and does that include all vaccines like the early polio vaccines?
Since I'm not in an iron lung, the answer should be obvious. But please, explain why you are against the covid vaccines.
Oh, so you believe everyone who hasn't taken one of the covid-19 vaccines is on an iron lung? Please explain more.
I was referring to the polio vaccine but I guess you can't keep your viruses straight. But please Pat, enlighten me on your views on the covid vaccines. Tell us how you really feel.
Of course people can't keep what you're talking about straight. You're keeping your claims and attributions purposely vague, so you can pretend that no that's not what you were saying when you make an outrageous claim, even when that claim is equally outlandish regardless of what it applies to.

Now tell us more about what vaccines or diseases put 100% of the people affected on an iron lung.

Pat

Quote from: Zelen on February 06, 2022, 09:46:23 PM
Please name one country where the injections stopped Covid-19.
Israel!

Oh.

Darn.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Pat on February 06, 2022, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: Zelen on February 06, 2022, 09:46:23 PM
Please name one country where the injections stopped Covid-19.
Israel!

Oh.

Darn.

LOL, and the lockdowns at best reduced covid mortality by 0.02%, while increasing suicides by how much?

But it's about saving lives.
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GeekyBugle

Quote from: Zelen on February 06, 2022, 09:46:23 PM
Please name one country where the injections stopped Covid-19.

You don't get it man, we need to have 120% of the population with 5 jabs. Then it'll work.
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

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Ratman_tf

Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 08:22:24 PM
So Operation Warp Speed should not have been done and we all should still be waiting on any vaccines then?

In hindsight, yes. They sold us a bill of goods and now instead of having a proper vaccine going through the proper approval process, we've got a rushed vaccine that absolutely cannot be criticized under any circumstances, until the government can figure out a way to avoid responsibility for overselling their miracle cure.
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Thornhammer

Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 10:24:29 PM
You don't get it man, we need to have 120% of the population with 5 jabs. Then it'll work.

6. 6 is all you'll ever need, we DOUBLE SPAGHETTI MONSTER PINKY SWEAR with sugar on top this time.

Maybe 7.

Okay, 8, just to be safe.

I think they should just entirely quit trying to specify how many will be "good."

My son caught it, had both shots. Wife caught it, had both shots. I didn't, had all three. Daughter didn't, had no shots. I give up.

Kiero

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Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 06:30:02 PM
Are you against the covid vaccines for whatever reason you either heard or read on the internet or does that also include all vacccines?

There's no such thing as a "covid vaccine", none of the therapeutic treatments being offered actually convey immunity. As in prevent you from contracting an infection.

Not for "whatever reason", but because I actually bothered to do some research into what they are, and observed the real world results of those non-vaccines doing precisely fuck all (see fully Pfizer'd up Israel).

I've had lots of genuine vaccinations, and I'm in favour of those.

Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 08:22:24 PM
So Operation Warp Speed should not have been done and we all should still be waiting on any vaccines then?

Waste of time and money, and no one should have been waiting on anything at all. There was never any justification for any of this theatrical production around a seasonal bug.
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KingCheops

Quote from: Thornhammer on February 07, 2022, 12:11:14 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2022, 10:24:29 PM
You don't get it man, we need to have 120% of the population with 5 jabs. Then it'll work.

6. 6 is all you'll ever need, we DOUBLE SPAGHETTI MONSTER PINKY SWEAR with sugar on top this time.

Maybe 7.

Okay, 8, just to be safe.

I think they should just entirely quit trying to specify how many will be "good."

My son caught it, had both shots. Wife caught it, had both shots. I didn't, had all three. Daughter didn't, had no shots. I give up.

We didn't get tested so not 100% sure.  My dad came to our house with a "head cold" which he didn't disclose until sitting on our couch for hours.  He'd tested positive 7 days earlier due to being at my sister's house where her whole family tested positive.  He also tested positive the next morning.  So safe to assume it was coof.

My girls missed school last thursday then were fine.  I took thursday and friday off work.  Friday night was shitty with aches in all my joints and the chills but that seemed to be the breaking point.  I'm sadly at work this morning.  None of us are jabbed at all.

My wife worked last week but called in sick today.  She's getting worse and she's double jabbed.  My triple jabbed mother in law seems fine.

dkabq

A good video on how this particular mask study is crap. Not that it stops the CDC from pimping it.
New CDC Mask study | Full of Errors | But many RTs | Science credibility dies slowly | Reflections
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hWmFnA3AQ0

oggsmash

Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 09:08:39 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 06, 2022, 08:53:26 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 07:11:25 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 06, 2022, 06:46:54 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: Kiero on February 06, 2022, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 09:34:09 AM
Read the goddamn publication date. And if it hasn't moved from test tube to human clinical trials, then it's not worth crowing about.

I don't give a fuck about clinical trials, Pfizer don't.
Are you against the covid vaccines for whatever reason you either heard or read on the internet or does that also include all vacccines?
Are are you in favor of vaccines for whatever reason you heard on Pzifer-sponsored media, and does that include all vaccines like the early polio vaccines?
Since I'm not in an iron lung, the answer should be obvious. But please, explain why you are against the covid vaccines.
Oh, so you believe everyone who hasn't taken one of the covid-19 vaccines is on an iron lung? Please explain more.
I was referring to the polio vaccine but I guess you can't keep your viruses straight. But please Pat, enlighten me on your views on the covid vaccines. Tell us how you really feel.

  Which was not obvious or clear at all from your back and forth.  You make me think you are in bad faith here.   I would also say, if your eyebrows do not go up a bit when massive drug cartels are given carte blanche immunity and have a massive financial incentive to push something....well you may be a bit too trusting.

oggsmash

  I think it is important to remember the history of this vaccine propaganda.  It started with a pretty iron clad level of protection as stated by Fauci that would end the spread.  That was repeated ad nausem by media corporations BROUGHT TO YOU BY PFIZER.  Then we had "break through" cases, and the definition of vaccine was changed.  Then "break through" became, "You have a MUCH lower chance to be hospitalized" from a virus that has about a 1 percent chance of putting you in the hospital.  Then we hear you need a booster, to not keep you from getting or spreading it of course, but from dying or causing gun shot victims or people in car crashes to die from tying up hospital beds.    And now, with Omicron, we will need a super special vaccine for just that (even as another variant is coming, so by the time Omicron is in people, they will be getting yet a new variant that cuts right through that vaxx like Omicron did) that of course Pfizer is slapping together at record speed. 

     If you are the sort that has always accepted the words of your betters and do as you are told, so be it.   If you think you want what is presented as "death insurance" by getting the vaxx, so be it.  But the endless bullshit about stopping the spread, protecting your neighbor, blah, blah, blah at this point is clap trap.  Your body, your choice.