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Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

Started by Zirunel, May 31, 2020, 04:01:23 PM

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Zirunel

#3840
February 06, 2022, 02:36:32 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on February 06, 2022, 02:16:38 PM
Quote from: Zirunel on February 06, 2022, 02:00:54 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on February 06, 2022, 01:33:54 PM
what I doubt is that political class people have to follow any rules at all regarding movements and Covid.

Maybe. They may be able to get away with things the rest of us can't. At least some of the time. cough Boris cough. I have no real insights there

  May?  From insider trading to never wearing a mask and getting hair done during a lockdown I think they can certainly do and get away with things the rest of us can not.  That is obvious to casual observers, as you point out.  If they are so cavalier about things they screech about constantly, I ask myself what else to they get away with that no one can really know about (well since the institutions of the press and investigation are completely compromised in their favor)?

Well, looking at Trudeau specifically, I'm not a huge fan. He is definitely a child of privilege who seemingly has little concept of what it means not to be a child of privilege. For which he has been called out by the press, and also, far too gently, by the Ethics Commissioner, for a number of his practices pre-Covid.

When it comes to the Covid rules though, he seems to be fairly observant. He made a point of getting real shaggy during lockdown, no lockdown-busting haircuts there. I suspect there was some calculus there:

"See, I'm abiding by the same rules you all are."

Plus,

"I'm young and pretty, I can get away with sporting flowing locks and a Count Dooku beard."

But whatever the calculus, he has pretty much abided by the rules Covid-wise

oggsmash

#3842
February 06, 2022, 02:59:28 PM
Quote from: Zirunel on February 06, 2022, 02:36:32 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on February 06, 2022, 02:16:38 PM
Quote from: Zirunel on February 06, 2022, 02:00:54 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on February 06, 2022, 01:33:54 PM
what I doubt is that political class people have to follow any rules at all regarding movements and Covid.

Maybe. They may be able to get away with things the rest of us can't. At least some of the time. cough Boris cough. I have no real insights there

  May?  From insider trading to never wearing a mask and getting hair done during a lockdown I think they can certainly do and get away with things the rest of us can not.  That is obvious to casual observers, as you point out.  If they are so cavalier about things they screech about constantly, I ask myself what else to they get away with that no one can really know about (well since the institutions of the press and investigation are completely compromised in their favor)?

Well, looking at Trudeau specifically, I'm not a huge fan. He is definitely a child of privilege who seemingly has little concept of what it means not to be a child of privilege. For which he has been called out by the press, and also, far too gently, by the Ethics Commissioner, for a number of his practices pre-Covid.

When it comes to the Covid rules though, he seems to be fairly observant. He made a point of getting real shaggy during lockdown, no lockdown-busting haircuts there. I suspect there was some calculus there:

"See, I'm abiding by the same rules you all are."

Plus,

"I'm young and pretty, I can get away with sporting flowing locks and a Count Dooku beard."

But whatever the calculus, he has pretty much abided by the rules Covid-wise

  To your knowledge, and to my knowledge, which if we are honest is 0 knowledge.  I was speaking broadly of the political class of both Canada and the USA.   I find myself making the assumption that if Castro Jr can break a rule, or do as royalty does, he is going to do it.

Zirunel

#3843
February 06, 2022, 03:00:21 PM Last Edit: February 06, 2022, 03:30:50 PM by Zirunel
Quote from: Eirikrautha on February 06, 2022, 02:42:49 PM
Quote from: Zirunel on February 06, 2022, 02:36:32 PM
But whatever the calculus, he has pretty much abided by the rules Covid-wise
https://globalnews.ca/news/6815936/coronavirus-justin-trudeau-andrew-scheer-easter-travel/
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/top-officials-around-the-world-keep-getting-caught-breaking-lockdown-rules/
https://torontosun.com/news/national/lilley-trudeau-breaks-law-once-again-by-ignoring-ontarios-covid-restrictions
https://tnc.news/2020/04/13/double-standard-trudeau-violates-social-distancing-rules/

Sure he has...

Well, the Brampton rally technically complied with Ontario's Covid rules. You're right about his Easter trip to Harrington Lake though, I had forgotten about that,  that was dodgy and slippery. It may even have complied with the letter, but definitely not the spirit, of Quebec's guidelines at the time.

GeekyBugle

#3845
February 06, 2022, 04:28:25 PM
Coming soon to a convention near you:

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"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Kiero

#3846
February 06, 2022, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 09:34:09 AM
Read the goddamn publication date. And if it hasn't moved from test tube to human clinical trials, then it's not worth crowing about.

I don't give a fuck about clinical trials, Pfizer don't.
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Shasarak

#3847
February 06, 2022, 06:28:01 PM
Quote from: Zirunel on February 06, 2022, 01:22:27 PM
I'm not sure he even could travel abroad, since he's got Covid.

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pathetically struggling,
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TNMalt

#3848
February 06, 2022, 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: Kiero on February 06, 2022, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 09:34:09 AM
Read the goddamn publication date. And if it hasn't moved from test tube to human clinical trials, then it's not worth crowing about.

I don't give a fuck about clinical trials, Pfizer don't.
Are you against the covid vaccines for whatever reason you either heard or read on the internet or does that also include all vacccines?

Pat

#3849
February 06, 2022, 06:46:54 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: Kiero on February 06, 2022, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 09:34:09 AM
Read the goddamn publication date. And if it hasn't moved from test tube to human clinical trials, then it's not worth crowing about.

I don't give a fuck about clinical trials, Pfizer don't.
Are you against the covid vaccines for whatever reason you either heard or read on the internet or does that also include all vacccines?
Are are you in favor of vaccines for whatever reason you heard on Pzifer-sponsored media, and does that include all vaccines like the early polio vaccines?

Pat

#3850
February 06, 2022, 06:51:53 PM
"Scientists Find Putting Pantyhose on Your Head Makes Your Mask Safer"
https://www.vice.com/en/article/akvng5/mask-hacks-better-fit-research

If I thought Vice had a sense of humor, I'd think this was joke. But nope, it's based on a peer reviewed paper:
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0262830



Shasarak

#3851
February 06, 2022, 06:56:14 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 06, 2022, 06:51:53 PM
"Scientists Find Putting Pantyhose on Your Head Makes Your Mask Safer"
https://www.vice.com/en/article/akvng5/mask-hacks-better-fit-research

Of course it makes your mask safer.

No one wants to get too close to the guy wearing his wifes pantyhose on his head.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

TNMalt

#3852
February 06, 2022, 07:11:25 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 06, 2022, 06:46:54 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: Kiero on February 06, 2022, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on February 06, 2022, 09:34:09 AM
Read the goddamn publication date. And if it hasn't moved from test tube to human clinical trials, then it's not worth crowing about.

I don't give a fuck about clinical trials, Pfizer don't.
Are you against the covid vaccines for whatever reason you either heard or read on the internet or does that also include all vacccines?
Are are you in favor of vaccines for whatever reason you heard on Pzifer-sponsored media, and does that include all vaccines like the early polio vaccines?
Since I'm not in an iron lung, the answer should be obvious. But please, explain why you are against the covid vaccines.

Ratman_tf

#3853
February 06, 2022, 08:05:26 PM
I'm againt the covid vaccines because they rolled them out in less than a year, bypassed the approval process with 'emergency use authorization', and then pushed them on as many people as possible while intentionally supressing any investigation into side effects as being "anti-vaxx".

Over the past two years, my trust in government, the scientific, pharmecutical, and media organizations went from "low" to "fuck no, and why aren't you in jail?"
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TNMalt

#3854
February 06, 2022, 08:22:24 PM
So Operation Warp Speed should not have been done and we all should still be waiting on any vaccines then?
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