Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

[dkabq]

Misinformation?
WHO says vaccine booster programs will prolong Covid crisis: 'No country can boost its way out of the pandemic'
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/22/who-says-covid-vaccine-booster-programs-will-prolong-pandemic.html

[Daztur]

Misinformation?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/22/who-says-covid-vaccine-booster-programs-will-prolong-pandemic.html

If you read more than the headline of the article you're linking you'd be able to understand that the WHO is saying that many poor countries are having a hard time getting their hands on enough vaccines because many rich countries are using a lot of vaccination doses on boosters. It's not saying that getting a third shot is bad, just that it's less good than giving someone who hasn't had any shots their first shot.

[dkabq]

Misinformation?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/22/who-says-covid-vaccine-booster-programs-will-prolong-pandemic.html

If you read more than the headline of the article you're linking you'd be able to understand that the WHO is saying that many poor countries are having a hard time getting their hands on enough vaccines because many rich countries are using a lot of vaccination doses on boosters. It's not saying that getting a third shot is bad, just that it's less good than giving someone who hasn't had any shots their first shot.

I did read the article. And regardless of their reasons, the WHO's conclusion is counter to the US narrative (per a recent tweet by Let's Go Brandon) that everyone in the US (except for illegal aliens crossing the Mexican border) should get vaccinated and boosted. Hence, by definition, it is misinformation.

[Daztur]

Misinformation?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/22/who-says-covid-vaccine-booster-programs-will-prolong-pandemic.html

If you read more than the headline of the article you're linking you'd be able to understand that the WHO is saying that many poor countries are having a hard time getting their hands on enough vaccines because many rich countries are using a lot of vaccination doses on boosters. It's not saying that getting a third shot is bad, just that it's less good than giving someone who hasn't had any shots their first shot.

I did read the article. And regardless of their reasons, the WHO's conclusion is counter to the US narrative (per a recent tweet by Let's Go Brandon) that everyone in the US (except for illegal aliens crossing the Mexican border) should get vaccinated and boosted. Hence, by definition, it is misinformation.

Ah, so you did read the article. You just don't understand it. Got it.

[Pat]

Misinformation?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/22/who-says-covid-vaccine-booster-programs-will-prolong-pandemic.html

If you read more than the headline of the article you're linking you'd be able to understand that the WHO is saying that many poor countries are having a hard time getting their hands on enough vaccines because many rich countries are using a lot of vaccination doses on boosters. It's not saying that getting a third shot is bad, just that it's less good than giving someone who hasn't had any shots their first shot.

I did read the article. And regardless of their reasons, the WHO's conclusion is counter to the US narrative (per a recent tweet by Let's Go Brandon) that everyone in the US (except for illegal aliens crossing the Mexican border) should get vaccinated and boosted. Hence, by definition, it is misinformation.

Ah, so you did read the article. You just don't understand it. Got it.

:swoosh:

Incidentally dkabq, the Pundit frowns on links without context. You might want to edit a short description of the article into your post.

[Spinachcat]

A man asks his doctor, "Hey doc, when is this pandemic going to end?"

Doctor says, "Don't ask me, I'm not a politician."



Remember kids, you can't vote your way out of communism.

[dkabq]

Misinformation?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/22/who-says-covid-vaccine-booster-programs-will-prolong-pandemic.html

If you read more than the headline of the article you're linking you'd be able to understand that the WHO is saying that many poor countries are having a hard time getting their hands on enough vaccines because many rich countries are using a lot of vaccination doses on boosters. It's not saying that getting a third shot is bad, just that it's less good than giving someone who hasn't had any shots their first shot.

I did read the article. And regardless of their reasons, the WHO's conclusion is counter to the US narrative (per a recent tweet by Let's Go Brandon) that everyone in the US (except for illegal aliens crossing the Mexican border) should get vaccinated and boosted. Hence, by definition, it is misinformation.

Ah, so you did read the article. You just don't understand it. Got it.

Nope. You just aren't grocking what I am saying.

From the article, the US position is:
"The comments from the WHO come as health officials in the U.S. promote vaccine booster shots for all residents over the age of 16 amid a surge in Covid cases driven by the omicron strain."

and

"We want people to be able to gather" over the holidays, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said in an interview Wednesday on CNN. "And safe gathering includes, of course, being vaccinated, ideally being boosted and making sure that all the people who you gather with are also vaccinated and boosted."

That is the narrative. Everyone in the US (except illegal aliens) needs to get vaccinated. Hence Let's Go Brandon's executive orders mandating vaccination for companies with 100+ employees and all federal employees and contractors.


From the article, the WHO position is:
"Blanket booster programs are likely to prolong the pandemic, rather than ending it, by diverting supply to countries that already have high levels of vaccination coverage, giving the virus more opportunity to spread and mutate."

and

"No country can boost its way out of the pandemic"


The WHO position deviates from the US position. Which begs the question of the WHO position being misinformation. Or maybe it is the US position that is misinformation. While I know that at one point Big Tech said the WHO was dogma, I forget who Big Tech is holding up as dogma at the moment.

Moreover, as the US position is the one proffered by St. Fauci, that also makes it against Science!(tm), as he "represents Science!(tm)".


Seems clear to me -- YMMV.

[Kiero]

Ah, so you did read the article. You just don't understand it. Got it.

Bless, you're incapable of understanding that "the narrative" is inconsistent, contradictory bullshit that changes from one minute to the next.

[Reckall]

Remember kids, you can't vote your way out of communism.

But you can hubris your way into a pandemic.

[Kiero]

But you can hubris your way into a pandemic.

What pandemic? What kind of imbecile still believes this bullshit two years on?

[Kiero]

The Midazolam murders are "nutjobbery" - except someone has put a private criminal prosecution before a magistrate's court today.

What an incredibly coincidental correlation between Midazolam prescriptions and care home deaths:

[Mistwell]

Misinformation?
WHO says vaccine booster programs will prolong Covid crisis: 'No country can boost its way out of the pandemic'
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/22/who-says-covid-vaccine-booster-programs-will-prolong-pandemic.html

Because it means not enough people in poor nations can get even a first dose of the vaccine if the rich nations take those doses for boosters.

WHO is in fact differing with USA policy. But WHO is saying people SHOULD GET VACCINATED TO STOP THE PANDEMIC. They're just saying the supply of vaccines is limited and should be used first as an initial dose, then as a second dose, before anyone turns to boosters.

But you go on with your intentionally spinning a pro-vaccine article as if it's an anti-vaccine article and hope nobody actually clicks on the article self.

[Mistwell]

Link edited out

Almost nobody knows what the fuck you're talking about or why you're talking about it in this thread. I assume you mean it's used for people on ventilator in some nations (but not in most). Death rates from covid are not different between nations which use that drug and nations which do not. So if you're trying to blame covid deaths on that drug worldwide, then yes you're a fucking nutter. But then we already knew you were a fucking nutter. I am still waiting to hear your views on whether mankind actually landed on the moon in 1969 and who shot JFK.

If anyone doubts Kiero is a nutter, go to the site he just linked to and look around. It's a serious whack job behind that site. Like Time Cube level nutter. Among his theories are that Covid is a Government conspiracy to commit genocide against those the Government feels are useless like the elderly. that the Rothschild family secretly controls the world and all wars are Rothschild wars, he goes on to speak about "Jewish Conspiracies" and proxies for "Jewish world ambitions" and Bilderberg connections, and trilateralists.

Oh, and this one: that it's not cornoavirus making people sick, it's instead non-ionising radiation emitted by 5G making people sick and Corona is being used as a mask for electromagnetic hypersensitivity.

The site is, in every way, a nutcase conspiracy theory paranoid delusional paradise.

And that's the source Kiero is reading and posting here.

[Kiero]

Almost nobody knows what the fuck you're talking about or why you're talking about it in this thread.

If you weren't a blinkered moron, desperately clinging to the lies being told again and again by the government and their media shills, you'd know exactly what I'm talking about. Which is that "covid deaths" are utter bollocks and the so-called pandemic was a nothing. But it worked on plenty of dumbasses like you, who gladly handed over your freedom in exchange for a promise that maybe you'll get them back one day.

All the stats are garbage, here's the Italian recount: https://dailysceptic.org/2021/11/03/italian-higher-institute-of-health-adjusts-number-of-deaths-due-to-covid-alone-since-february-2020-downwards-from-over-130000-to-under-4000/

They revised their 130,000 dead with covid to less than 4,000 from covid:

Turns out 97.1% of deaths hitherto attributed to Covid were not due directly to Covid.

According to its latest report on Covid mortality, the Institute says COVID-19 has killed fewer people than the average bout of seasonal flu. According to the statistical sample of medical records collected by the Institute, only 2.9% of the deaths registered since the end of February 2020 have been due to COVID-19. So, of the 130,468 deaths registered by official statistics dating back to the beginning of the pandemic, only 3,783 are due to the virus alone. All the other Italians who lost their lives had from between one and five pre-existing diseases. Of those aged over 67 who died, 7% had more than three co-morbidities, and 18% at least two. According to the Institute, 65.8% of Italians who died after being infected with Covid were ill with arterial hypertension (high blood pressure), 23.5% had dementia, 29.3% had diabetes, and 24.8% atrial fibrillation. Add to that, 17.4% had lung problems, 16.3% had had cancer in the last five years and 15.7% suffered from previous heart failures.

[dkabq]

Misinformation?
WHO says vaccine booster programs will prolong Covid crisis: 'No country can boost its way out of the pandemic'
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/22/who-says-covid-vaccine-booster-programs-will-prolong-pandemic.html

Because it means not enough people in poor nations can get even a first dose of the vaccine if the rich nations take those doses for boosters.

WHO is in fact differing with USA policy. But WHO is saying people SHOULD GET VACCINATED TO STOP THE PANDEMIC. They're just saying the supply of vaccines is limited and should be used first as an initial dose, then as a second dose, before anyone turns to boosters.

But you go on with your intentionally spinning a pro-vaccine article as if it's an anti-vaccine article and hope nobody actually clicks on the article self.

I expect everyone to read the article. I know that when you, or anyone else, makes a post with a link, I read the article.

And I was making neither a pro or anti vax argument. Rather, I was pointing out that the WHO position is different from the US/CDC position. And as with all things covid, there is the one true faith dogma, and everything else is heresy. So the question is, who is the heretic? The WHO or the CDC? Like the Highlander, there can only be one.

===========================

As far as my pro/anti vaccine take, which has nothing to do with the point I was making, it is that both positions are wrong.

If the vaccine was a sterilizing and had a high effectiveness, then I would lean towards the WHO's position. Specifically, the vaccine would not be given until there was enough (8B for one dose, 16B for two doses) for everyone. Otherwise, you are still playing wack-a-mole between vaccinated and un-vaccinated. However, as it is apparent that the vaccines are not sterilizing, even with you gave everyone the vaccine all at once there would still be enough break-thru cases to keep it going.

I agree with the US/CDC position to the extent that I believe the old, those with comorbidities, and anyone that wants it, take the vaccine and as many boosters as they like. The young and the healthy, and those that do not want to take the vaccine should not be forced to.