Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

[Shrieking Banshee]

Reported in the British Medical Journal: https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635

OK thats insane. Not in the 'Your Insane' Way, but its crazy that this sort of thing happened and was obviously brushed under the rug.
However, this proves that they did sloppy testing (and lies), not that it doesn't work. In addition phizer isn't the only vaccine provider.

It does feed into my general unease about the blind trust put into the medical establishment and the media running damage control.

[Ratman_tf]

"Fact check" - you mean propagandists paid for by Big Pharma?

While Im not thrilled with the vaccines (and sceptical), this is also the same sort of logic used by things like BLM to say that you can't trust federal data on crime statistics.
Its important to know to yourself what kind of evidence you would need to see to be proven wrong to yourself, otherwise your stuck in a logic loop.

Dunno about anyone else, but I went from "kinda skeptical" to "none of these motherfuckers can be trusted" over the course of the past year.
I want to see a clean sweep of media, government and industries before even considering trusting them again. And that's to get a reset back to 0 trust.

[dkabq]

In one of my previous careers, our technical work products were subject to legal discovery. That included our emails. During the process of sorting out the personal emails from the business-related emails, an email conversation between two scientists was discovered, in which they were disparaging the quality assurance process (all work was performed under an NQA-1 program). That conversation was considered damaging enough that the analysis they had done was scrapped and $1M was spent to have another organization on the project re-do the analysis.

Moreover, everything we did had to be traceable and and transparent. That meant that all software, inputs, and references had to be documented and turned over to the customer and the interveners.  And if the traceability or transparency was found lacking, we would have to go back and fix it.

I wish that we could have used the St. Fauci "I represent Science" defense to simply demonize and shut-down our reviewers.

All that to say that I have been skeptical from the jump.

[dkabq]

You know it's bad when CNN is coming out and saying that cloth masks blow dogs for quarters:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cloth-masks-useless-omicron-expert-b1980394.html

"Cloth masks are little more than facial decorations. There's no place for them in light of Omicron. And so wear a high-quality mask, at least a three-ply surgical mask," she added.

[3catcircus]

You know it's bad when CNN is coming out and saying that cloth masks blow dogs for quarters:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cloth-masks-useless-omicron-expert-b1980394.html

"Cloth masks are little more than facial decorations. There's no place for them in light of Omicron. And so wear a high-quality mask, at least a three-ply surgical mask," she added.

It's Leana Wen- a known CHICOM operative.

[dkabq]

This is the best summary of masks that I have seen to-date. A bit long, but worth the read.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/10/commentary-what-can-masks-do-part-1-science-behind-covid-19-protection
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/10/commentary-what-can-masks-do-part-2-what-makes-good-mask-study-and-why-most

"We are well past the emergency phase of this pandemic, and it should be well-known by now that wearing cloth face coverings or surgical masks, universal or otherwise, has a very minor role to play in preventing person-to-person transmission. It is time to stop overselling their efficacy and unrealistic expectations about their ability to end the pandemic."

[DocJones]

"Cloth masks are little more than facial decorations.

That's not entirely true.  Cloth masks act as rape protection in certain ethnic cultural areas.
>:->

[Pat]

In one of my previous careers, our technical work products were subject to legal discovery. That included our emails. During the process of sorting out the personal emails from the business-related emails, an email conversation between two scientists was discovered, in which they were disparaging the quality assurance process (all work was performed under an NQA-1 program). That conversation was considered damaging enough that the analysis they had done was scrapped and $1M was spent to have another organization on the project re-do the analysis.

Moreover, everything we did had to be traceable and and transparent. That meant that all software, inputs, and references had to be documented and turned over to the customer and the interveners.  And if the traceability or transparency was found lacking, we would have to go back and fix it.

I wish that we could have used the St. Fauci "I represent Science" defense to simply demonize and shut-down our reviewers.

All that to say that I have been skeptical from the jump.

That's true in a lot of fields. For another example, look at the news last week about J.P. Morgan. They've been fined because many of their financial advisors got into the habit of using alternative means of communication, so they could have off the record conversations. The SEC said hell no.

That said, I've also seen discovery abused. They want a broad swath of financial records? Don't put them on a memory stick. Print them all out, and then ship them by the pallet. The assumption was that nobody would read them.

But yes, the 75 year gag order and all the nonsense with the trials makes Big Pharma sound very bad.

[Kiero]

OK thats insane. Not in the 'Your Insane' Way, but its crazy that this sort of thing happened and was obviously brushed under the rug.
However, this proves that they did sloppy testing (and lies), not that it doesn't work. In addition phizer isn't the only vaccine provider.

It does feed into my general unease about the blind trust put into the medical establishment and the media running damage control.

If this were the only incidence of this sort of thing, you might excuse it, but it's part of a pattern of behaviour stretching back decades. Pfizer, on any objective assessment, is evil.

What it proves is that their "trials" aren't worth shit (so any claims of efficacy are suspect). That they will falsify data, bribe people and break the rules to push their product. This is the critical thing, Pfizer are not part of the "medical establishment" as you put it, they are a manufacturer of a product who's only priority is selling as much of that product as they can. They don't care how safe it is or whether it even works, only that they can keep shipping product.

The significance for that "medical establishment" is that they have been thoroughly corrupted by Pfizer (and to a lesser extent the other manufacturers). Pfizer pays for their research, "sponsors" media outlets, funds the supposed regulators, bankrolls politicians, bribes individual doctors. They are utterly untrustworthy.

[Kiero]

And on that very point, here's a "fact check" from Reuters: https://twitter.com/ReutersFacts/status/1465339719672221701

Guess who's on the Pfizer board and is a major investor? Chairman (and former CEO) of Reuters James C Smith.

https://www.pfizer.com/people/leadership/board-of-directors/james_smith

No conflict of interest there!

[dkabq]

CDC Director is Wrong Re Myocarditis Numbers 5-11 & CDC Cannot Count Vaccine Doses - Huge Blunders!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpwSYQelMEg

This is the same person that said surgical masks are 80% effective, without providing any technical basis.

Fucking clown shoes.

[Kiero]

Our cash-strapped NHS are so desperate for funds that there are nearly 3,000 unfilled diversity posts:



That only equates to about £110m on their salaries alone.

[Ghostmaker]

Our cash-strapped NHS are so desperate for funds that there are nearly 3,000 unfilled diversity posts:



That only equates to about £110m on their salaries alone.

Is 40-45k a good 'starting salary'? I'm not up on cost of living in Britland.

[Kiero]

Is 40-45k a good 'starting salary'? I'm not up on cost of living in Britland.

The average salary is £25-30k. So yes, unless you're in London (but that usually has the "London weighting" uplift applied to it).

[3catcircus]

"Fact check" - you mean propagandists paid for by Big Pharma?

While Im not thrilled with the vaccines (and sceptical), this is also the same sort of logic used by things like BLM to say that you can't trust federal data on crime statistics.
Its important to know to yourself what kind of evidence you would need to see to be proven wrong to yourself, otherwise your stuck in a logic loop.

Dunno about anyone else, but I went from "kinda skeptical" to "none of these motherfuckers can be trusted" over the course of the past year.
I want to see a clean sweep of media, government and industries before even considering trusting them again. And that's to get a reset back to 0 trust.

This. I'd be happy to support the Pope Innocent III method of dealing with them - kill them all and let God sort them out.  They're *all* in collusion.  Interlocking corporate directorships, industry/government revolving doors, quid pro quo media relations.  They all have to go.