Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

[HappyDaze]

Nice source you got there, be a shame if someone were to fact check them...

I mean, really, tin foil hat & quackery are literally some of the terms used to describe them.

"Fact check" - you mean propagandists paid for by Big Pharma?

Just keep on shitting out your conspiracy theory nonsense, fool, as there's nothing in the rules here against it. You might want to support your quackery depot though, looks like they need money to keep their lights on for another month.

[Kiero]

Just keep on shitting out your conspiracy theory nonsense, fool, as there's nothing in the rules here against it. You might want to support your quackery depot though, looks like they need money to keep their lights on for another month.

"Nothing in the rules here against it" - you fascists really can't help yourselves can you? So desperate to ban viewpoints that don't conform with the official narrative you unquestioningly guzzle.

Ten years from now, assuming you're still alive, I'll be telling you "I told you so".

[HappyDaze]

Just keep on shitting out your conspiracy theory nonsense, fool, as there's nothing in the rules here against it. You might want to support your quackery depot though, looks like they need money to keep their lights on for another month.

"Nothing in the rules here against it" - you fascists really can't help yourselves can you? So desperate to ban viewpoints that don't conform with the official narrative you unquestioningly guzzle.

Ten years from now, assuming you're still alive, I'll be telling you "I told you so".

So this week I'm a fascist? The labels keep changing so fast these days. But not your label, Kiero, you're consistently a conspiracy theory spouting nutjob.

[Kiero]

So this week I'm a fascist? The labels keep changing so fast these days. But not your label, Kiero, you're consistently a conspiracy theory spouting nutjob.

A "nutjob" who's somehow not dead in this "pandemic" despite ignoring all the safety advice and not taking your poison prick.

[HappyDaze]

So this week I'm a fascist? The labels keep changing so fast these days. But not your label, Kiero, you're consistently a conspiracy theory spouting nutjob.

A "nutjob" who's somehow not dead in this "pandemic" despite ignoring all the safety advice and not taking your poison prick.

You'll notice "nutjob that spreads conspiracy theories" isn't recognized as a contributing comorbidity for Covid. So your bit of stupid can survive and we edge closer to Idiocracy becoming manifest.

[Shrieking Banshee]

"Fact check" - you mean propagandists paid for by Big Pharma?

While Im not thrilled with the vaccines (and sceptical), this is also the same sort of logic used by things like BLM to say that you can't trust federal data on crime statistics.
Its important to know to yourself what kind of evidence you would need to see to be proven wrong to yourself, otherwise your stuck in a logic loop.

[Kiero]

While Im not thrilled with the vaccines (and sceptical), this is also the same sort of logic used by things like BLM to say that you can't trust federal data on crime statistics.
Its important to know to yourself what kind of evidence you would need to see to be proven wrong to yourself, otherwise your stuck in a logic loop.

No logic loop necessary when the people who profit from the narrative are the people who are paying for the "fact checks".

[Shrieking Banshee]

No logic loop necessary when the people who profit from the narrative are the people who are paying for the "fact checks".

But all research is baised in one way or another. You must have an 'in' in your brain that some group must be able to convince you that their right and your wrong. Otherwise its just a gut feeling and not based in logic.

[Kiero]

But all research is baised in one way or another. You must have an 'in' in your brain that some group must be able to convince you that their right and your wrong. Otherwise its just a gut feeling and not based in logic.

"Fact checking" isn't research. It's Big Pharma's paid partisans trying to direct the narrative, aided and abetted by Big Tech.

[Shrieking Banshee]

"Fact checking" isn't research. It's Big Pharma's paid partisans trying to direct the narrative, aided and abetted by Big Tech.

I know big pharma and big tech exist, but im asking you: what sort of evidence or research would you require to verify vaccine effectiveness? What would have to be the source?

If the source is impossible to happen, then your stuck in a logic loop.

[Kiero]

I know big pharma and big tech exist, but im asking you: what sort of evidence or research would you require to verify vaccine effectiveness? What would have to be the source?

If the source is impossible to happen, then your stuck in a logic loop.

The source would have to be any reputable research institution that wasn't being paid by the manufacturer of the vaccine to deliver the required result.

Hell, or even the manufacturer's own properly conducted and completed trials. Where they hadn't deliberately compromised the control group.

[Shrieking Banshee]

Where they hadn't deliberately compromised the control group.

How did they do that? Im asking because I don't have a scientific background.

[Kiero]

How did they do that? Im asking because I don't have a scientific background.

Pfizer gave the control group, who were supposed to be receiving a placebo, the same drug as those being tested. They deliberately invalidated the trial.

[Shrieking Banshee]

Pfizer gave the control group, who were supposed to be receiving a placebo, the same drug as those being tested. They deliberately invalidated the trial.

Links to that and stuff? Sorry if Im late to the party.

[Kiero]

Links to that and stuff? Sorry if Im late to the party.

Reported in the British Medical Journal: https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635

Also here: https://dailysceptic.org/2021/11/17/can-anything-about-the-pfizer-vaccine-trial-be-trusted/

Process flow of the Pfizer trial:



The "Open Label" part is where they breached the control group by telling them they'd received the placebo, then gave most of them the experimental drug.