Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

[Garry G]

There is no "grand conspiracy". Rather, it is in the selfish interests of Big Pharma, Big Tech, governments, etc. to over-hype covid so as to make money and expand their control.

Thats just conspiracy by another name. Otherwise it's people and organisations doing stuff under their own agendas which will conflict and we'll see what's going on.

[Pat]

There is no "grand conspiracy". Rather, it is in the selfish interests of Big Pharma, Big Tech, governments, etc. to over-hype covid so as to make money and expand their control.

Thats just conspiracy by another name. Otherwise it's people and organisations doing stuff under their own agendas which will conflict and we'll see what's going on.

It has to be a conspiracy! Otherwise, we couldn't just dismiss it out of hand, could we?

[dkabq]

There is no "grand conspiracy". Rather, it is in the selfish interests of Big Pharma, Big Tech, governments, etc. to over-hype covid so as to make money and expand their control.

Thats just conspiracy by another name. Otherwise it's people and organisations doing stuff under their own agendas which will conflict and we'll see what's going on.

Actually, it is the literal opposite of a conspiracy.

[Eirikrautha]

There is no "grand conspiracy". Rather, it is in the selfish interests of Big Pharma, Big Tech, governments, etc. to over-hype covid so as to make money and expand their control.

Thats just conspiracy by another name. Otherwise it's people and organisations doing stuff under their own agendas which will conflict and we'll see what's going on.

Actually, it is the literal opposite of a conspiracy.

Well, it's not like he can argue the statistics or information presented here.  So he has to deflect by pretending that the argument is about the the purpose of the falsehoods, as opposed to the falsehoods themselves...

[Shasarak]

I know this may sound repetitive but can you explain how this highly complicated international conspiracy works? A simple step by step explanation on how the dark masters, I think it's Big Pharma this week but may be wrong, started and spread this scam through numerous governments with different agendas and stopped any sort of leak that would blow the whole thing wide open.

I got some numbers here that you can call for further information if you like.

[dkabq]

You know it's bad when The Atlantic is going against the narrative:
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/12/mask-guidelines-cdc-walensky/621035/

TL:DR =
With Biden in the White House, the CDC has promised to "follow the science" in its COVID policies. Yet the circumstances around the Arizona study seem to show the opposite. Dubious research has been cited after the fact, without transparency, in support of existing agency guidance. "Research requires trust and the ability to verify work," Ketcham, the ASU public-health economist, told me. "That's the heart of science. The saddest part of this is the erosion of trust."

The boldface (added by me) says it all.

Then for good measure throw in that any questioning of "The Science!(tm)" narrative, rather than being seen as part of the process of science
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

is labeled disinformation. Reminds me of Galileo vs. the Catholic Church
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei

or Soviet genetics
https://theconversation.com/the-tragic-story-of-soviet-genetics-shows-the-folly-of-political-meddling-in-science-72580

[Kiero]

I know this may sound repetitive but can you explain how this highly complicated international conspiracy works? A simple step by step explanation on how the dark masters, I think it's Big Pharma this week but may be wrong, started and spread this scam through numerous governments with different agendas and stopped any sort of leak that would blow the whole thing wide open.

Pfizer have bought the right people. It's really no more complex than that. Though whether or not they are themselves on China's payroll, since they are the ultimate beneficiaries of the utter humiliation of the West, is unknown.

If you really think this entire production is about a virus, then you're spectacularly dumb. The jabs are about vaccine passports, which are a stepping stone to digital ID, which is the foundation of a Social Credit system which will control us all.

As already exists in China, just in case you are really that ignorant:

[Kiero]

Denmark is locking down again, because that's worked so well before. I wonder what could be driving their spike in infections:



Baffling.

[Kiero]

Spot the "pandemic":

Worth repeating for the hard of thinking. This is one statistic that cannot be massaged or faked, it's the deaths from all causes for each year. If there were so many "excess" deaths in 2020, why isn't there a big spike compared to other years?

Where is the "pandemic"?

[dkabq]

Spot the "pandemic":

Worth repeating for the hard of thinking. This is one statistic that cannot be massaged or faked, it's the deaths from all causes for each year. If there were so many "excess" deaths in 2020, why isn't there a spike compared to other years?

Where is the "pandemic"?

I think that I can. It's the higher numbers of 2020 vs those of 2019. However, by that logic, there must have been a pandemic between 2014 and 2015, albeit not as severe in England as in Wales.

What would be interesting to see is a set of similar plots with the top causes of death, with separate plots for age ranges. I would also like to see a set of plots made in terms of number of co-morbidities.

[Kiero]

I think that I can. It's the higher numbers of 2020 vs those of 2019. However, by that logic, there must have been a pandemic between 2014 and 2015, albeit not as severe in England as in Wales.

What would be interesting to see is a set of similar plots with the top causes of death, with separate plots for age ranges. I would also like to see a set of plots made in terms of number of co-morbidities.

Accentuated by the fact that 2019 was an especially low death year, historically. Not a big spike either, not in the normal levels for the 00s.

Notice it dropped sharply again for 2021, so much for an ongoing emergency. I bet 2022 will be bad, though, with all the missed disagnoses and treatments due to our health service being closed.

[Chris24601]

There is no "grand conspiracy". Rather, it is in the selfish interests of Big Pharma, Big Tech, governments, etc. to over-hype covid so as to make money and expand their control.

Pretty much this. The biggest part of it is to know that the FDA and CDC get about half their funding not from taxes, but from private donations from Big Pharma companies. They also give millions of dollars to politicians. Based on FDA and CDC recommendations, the politicians are spending BILLIONS of our tax dollars on drugs from Big Pharma to fight the Pandemic.

The second thing to know is that many CDC employees hold patents on various drugs. For example, Dr. Fauci holds the patent on a drug called Rendezivir. Now, guess which drug is the only one approved for hospitals to treat Covid with as decided by Dr. Fauci? Rendezivir... with Dr. Fauci pocketing millions from his patent licenses in the process.

It's not an evil conspiracy; it's a bunch of greedy assholes trying to scrape as many tax dollars as they can into their pockets... just as it's always been except that right now we've got Mr. "Ten Percent to The Big Guy" at the top of the heap and as long as he gets his cut he won't even blink as the greedy assholes keep shoveling our money into their coffers.

That's all this is. That's all Build Back Better and the WEF's agenda are when you boil it down... schemes to bilk the producing classes out of as much money as they can to enrich the people at the top. Everything else is just marketing to those they need to keep compliant and onboard to keep siphoning up the money.

[Kiero]

Remdezivir which doesn't work and has horrendous side-effects. Unlike cheap, generic Ivermectin.

[dkabq]

I think that I can. It's the higher numbers of 2020 vs those of 2019. However, by that logic, there must have been a pandemic between 2014 and 2015, albeit not as severe in England as in Wales.

What would be interesting to see is a set of similar plots with the top causes of death, with separate plots for age ranges. I would also like to see a set of plots made in terms of number of co-morbidities.

Accentuated by the fact that 2019 was an especially low death year, historically. Not a big spike either, not in the normal levels for the 00s.

Notice it dropped sharply again for 2021, so much for an ongoing emergency. I bet 2022 will be bad, though, with all the missed disagnoses and treatments due to our health service being closed.

My guess is that a significant fraction of "deaths with covid" would have been "deaths from xxxx", where xxxx are the chronic comorbidities in the elderly. And that you would see the same trend, but to a lesser extent, in the not-elderly.

[Kiero]

My guess is that a significant fraction of "deaths with covid" would have been "deaths from xxxx", where xxxx are the chronic comorbidities in the elderly. And that you would see the same trend, but to a lesser extent, in the not-elderly.

Around 95% of deaths "with" covid were actually caused by underlying comorbidities.