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Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

Started by Zirunel, May 31, 2020, 04:01:23 PM

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3catcircus

Quote from: DocJones on December 04, 2021, 08:31:47 PM
Quote from: Kiero on December 04, 2021, 05:58:32 AM
Did the 'rona give him that belly? He was also double-jabbed, so thought he was safe. Great protection offered there!
That picture was AFTER he lost "3 and a-bit stone" or in US between 42 and 56 pounds.
I read the site where the picture was at as "Whales online".

He's one of those guys with the physique of a jellyfish.  Not fat enough to be a concern to NHS, but definitely not healthy.

I also don't quite understand the idea of not going to the doctor until you're already blue with an SpO2 in the low 90s (or lower).  Everyone in my family caught the 'rona.  I woke up on a Sunday with head cold symptoms, by 2pm lost my sense of taste and smell and by 3pm was at urgent care getting tested.  Results two days later, monoclonal antibodies 3 days after that.  While waiting for the mAb treatment, I felt shortness of breath and the $20 O2 monitor bought from the drugstore registered 96%.  We monitored ourselves until we got the mAbs and planned to go to them hospital if it dipped below 94%.  Who the hell waits until they can't even breathe?  Even if you don't believe HCQ or Ivermectin works, early treatment is the key. 

That, and his recovery photo makes him look like a pussy-hat wearing unemployed antifa-feminism-BLM supporter.  They *always* look like that...

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Pat on December 04, 2021, 06:06:20 AM
Even St. Fauci, the patron saint of alarmism, has said it's "comforting, but not definitive" that the rise in omicron cases in South Africa has not been followed by a surge of hospitalizations.

Now researchers from Nference have published a pre-print of a paper that shows that omicron has a snippet of genetic code from one of the coronaviruses that causes the common cold, probably due to lateral gene transfer in someone who was infected by both viruses. Soundararajan, one of the co-authors, said this helps explain how omicron "lives and transmits more efficiently with human beings", and that as it becomes more transmissible it loses traits that are more likely to cause severe symptoms.

The delta strain was dominant in South Africa in October, but by November 74% of the cases where the virus' genome were sequenced were omicron.

Why are we supposed to panic every time a new variant emerges, again?

"The better to control you with, my dear",
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GeekyBugle

Quote from: 3catcircus on December 05, 2021, 10:11:25 AM
Quote from: DocJones on December 04, 2021, 08:31:47 PM
Quote from: Kiero on December 04, 2021, 05:58:32 AM
Did the 'rona give him that belly? He was also double-jabbed, so thought he was safe. Great protection offered there!
That picture was AFTER he lost "3 and a-bit stone" or in US between 42 and 56 pounds.
I read the site where the picture was at as "Whales online".

He's one of those guys with the physique of a jellyfish.  Not fat enough to be a concern to NHS, but definitely not healthy.

I also don't quite understand the idea of not going to the doctor until you're already blue with an SpO2 in the low 90s (or lower).  Everyone in my family caught the 'rona.  I woke up on a Sunday with head cold symptoms, by 2pm lost my sense of taste and smell and by 3pm was at urgent care getting tested.  Results two days later, monoclonal antibodies 3 days after that.  While waiting for the mAb treatment, I felt shortness of breath and the $20 O2 monitor bought from the drugstore registered 96%.  We monitored ourselves until we got the mAbs and planned to go to them hospital if it dipped below 94%.  Who the hell waits until they can't even breathe?  Even if you don't believe HCQ or Ivermectin works, early treatment is the key. 

That, and his recovery photo makes him look like a pussy-hat wearing unemployed antifa-feminism-BLM supporter.  They *always* look like that...

As an ex-whale: The guy probably was used to almost always being short of breath.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

3catcircus

Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 05, 2021, 11:32:54 AM
Quote from: 3catcircus on December 05, 2021, 10:11:25 AM
Quote from: DocJones on December 04, 2021, 08:31:47 PM
Quote from: Kiero on December 04, 2021, 05:58:32 AM
Did the 'rona give him that belly? He was also double-jabbed, so thought he was safe. Great protection offered there!
That picture was AFTER he lost "3 and a-bit stone" or in US between 42 and 56 pounds.
I read the site where the picture was at as "Whales online".

He's one of those guys with the physique of a jellyfish.  Not fat enough to be a concern to NHS, but definitely not healthy.

I also don't quite understand the idea of not going to the doctor until you're already blue with an SpO2 in the low 90s (or lower).  Everyone in my family caught the 'rona.  I woke up on a Sunday with head cold symptoms, by 2pm lost my sense of taste and smell and by 3pm was at urgent care getting tested.  Results two days later, monoclonal antibodies 3 days after that.  While waiting for the mAb treatment, I felt shortness of breath and the $20 O2 monitor bought from the drugstore registered 96%.  We monitored ourselves until we got the mAbs and planned to go to them hospital if it dipped below 94%.  Who the hell waits until they can't even breathe?  Even if you don't believe HCQ or Ivermectin works, early treatment is the key. 

That, and his recovery photo makes him look like a pussy-hat wearing unemployed antifa-feminism-BLM supporter.  They *always* look like that...

As an ex-whale: The guy probably was used to almost always being short of breath.

The shortness of breath is *different*. I'm still working my down from Humpback to Orca and then down to non-whale status (I lost 30 lbs in 2020 just from working from home where I'd have my morning coffee while tapping away at the laptop and then next thing I know it's like 2pm and I don't feel like taking the time to make myself runchee)...

That "lemme catch my breath" that fat people experience is different than the "I'm able to take full breaths and know I'm getting enough air, but this is the O2 debt sensation I got when I was exercising at nuke prototype in Idaho - almost a mile above sea level" sensation I experienced with COVID.  Which makes sense - COVID is a circulatory system virus, not a respiratory system virus.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: 3catcircus on December 05, 2021, 11:51:50 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 05, 2021, 11:32:54 AM
Quote from: 3catcircus on December 05, 2021, 10:11:25 AM
Quote from: DocJones on December 04, 2021, 08:31:47 PM
Quote from: Kiero on December 04, 2021, 05:58:32 AM
Did the 'rona give him that belly? He was also double-jabbed, so thought he was safe. Great protection offered there!
That picture was AFTER he lost "3 and a-bit stone" or in US between 42 and 56 pounds.
I read the site where the picture was at as "Whales online".

He's one of those guys with the physique of a jellyfish.  Not fat enough to be a concern to NHS, but definitely not healthy.

I also don't quite understand the idea of not going to the doctor until you're already blue with an SpO2 in the low 90s (or lower).  Everyone in my family caught the 'rona.  I woke up on a Sunday with head cold symptoms, by 2pm lost my sense of taste and smell and by 3pm was at urgent care getting tested.  Results two days later, monoclonal antibodies 3 days after that.  While waiting for the mAb treatment, I felt shortness of breath and the $20 O2 monitor bought from the drugstore registered 96%.  We monitored ourselves until we got the mAbs and planned to go to them hospital if it dipped below 94%.  Who the hell waits until they can't even breathe?  Even if you don't believe HCQ or Ivermectin works, early treatment is the key. 

That, and his recovery photo makes him look like a pussy-hat wearing unemployed antifa-feminism-BLM supporter.  They *always* look like that...

As an ex-whale: The guy probably was used to almost always being short of breath.

The shortness of breath is *different*. I'm still working my down from Humpback to Orca and then down to non-whale status (I lost 30 lbs in 2020 just from working from home where I'd have my morning coffee while tapping away at the laptop and then next thing I know it's like 2pm and I don't feel like taking the time to make myself runchee)...

That "lemme catch my breath" that fat people experience is different than the "I'm able to take full breaths and know I'm getting enough air, but this is the O2 debt sensation I got when I was exercising at nuke prototype in Idaho - almost a mile above sea level" sensation I experienced with COVID.  Which makes sense - COVID is a circulatory system virus, not a respiratory system virus.

I didn't get covid, even when one of the neighborgs in the building died from it (diabetic). Or if I got it I didn't notice any sympthoms (is that the correct spelling?) so I wouldn't know, Due to the lockdowns, etc I didn't even get a cold since the start of it.

But I got a cold before the pandemic broke (officially, since we don't really know when the virus escaped from the lab) that sent me to bed for about 3 days. Which isn't rare for me, I don't really get colds but 1 maybe 2 times a year but when I get it boy do I get it.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Ghostmaker

Quote from: dkabq on December 05, 2021, 09:03:18 AM
You're going to love wearing a mask forever...
https://www.foxnews.com/us/oregon-health-authority-moves-to-implement-permanent-indoor-mask-mandate

"Permanent means indefinite. It doesn't necessarily mean permanent," Cieslak said.

Permanent means permanent. Indefinite means indefinite. Why should I trust any medical information coming out of the mouth of someone that is that stupid or disingenuous.
Because if you don't, you're attacking SCIENCE!

(/sarc)

FelixGamingX1

Just want to say I kinda dig the mask. I see it as a fashion accessory. Even better on winter.
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dkabq

Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on December 05, 2021, 01:05:49 PM
Just want to say I kinda dig the mask. I see it as a fashion accessory. Even better on winter.

I am all for anyone who wants to wear a mask wearing a mask. I am not for forcing people to wear masks.

3catcircus

Quote from: dkabq on December 05, 2021, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on December 05, 2021, 01:05:49 PM
Just want to say I kinda dig the mask. I see it as a fashion accessory. Even better on winter.

I am all for anyone who wants to wear a mask wearing a mask. I am not for forcing people to wear masks.

This.

There is so much that is correct about the *idea* of wearing masks or social distancing - specifically as source control by *known* infected. The problem is two-fold:

1. Execution - who wears a properly-fitted mask correctly, with a tight-enough weave?  Who takes the mask they've been wearing for three days in a row, swarming with bacteria or virii, and continues to wear it thinking they're protected or protecting others?

2. Inconsiderate scumfucks who (even before covid) would go out and about coughing, hacking, sneezing, with hands covered in virii touching everything.

Masks as protection by the uninfected is dubious at best.

What would be *really* interesting to find out is, given how covid vaccinations aren't doing shit besides reducing risks of hospitalization and death (i.e. therapy rather than vaccination), how similar it was for flu vaccines to also not really prevent infection but to reduce severity instead...

Shasarak

Quote from: FelixGamingX1 on December 05, 2021, 01:05:49 PM
Just want to say I kinda dig the mask. I see it as a fashion accessory. Even better on winter.

That is your culture.  Western people dont really need to understand.
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pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Kiero

Quote from: 3catcircus on December 05, 2021, 02:14:47 PM
What would be *really* interesting to find out is, given how covid vaccinations aren't doing shit besides reducing risks of hospitalization and death (i.e. therapy rather than vaccination), how similar it was for flu vaccines to also not really prevent infection but to reduce severity instead...

People keep saying this, where's the evidence? In the UK the majority of those hospitalised and dying with covid are double-jabbed. It's the same in every country where a high proportion have been jabbed.

Surely if this was going on, the unjabbed would be the ones doing the dying?
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3catcircus

Quote from: Kiero on December 05, 2021, 05:58:48 PM
Quote from: 3catcircus on December 05, 2021, 02:14:47 PM
What would be *really* interesting to find out is, given how covid vaccinations aren't doing shit besides reducing risks of hospitalization and death (i.e. therapy rather than vaccination), how similar it was for flu vaccines to also not really prevent infection but to reduce severity instead...

People keep saying this, where's the evidence? In the UK the majority of those hospitalised and dying with covid are double-jabbed. It's the same in every country where a high proportion have been jabbed.

Surely if this was going on, the unjabbed would be the ones doing the dying?

I think it's just a matter of the maths - there are so many jabbed in the UK, that they'll be the majority of those hospitalized.  You need to look at total QTY of infected and then % of those that are hospitalized as a ratio of jabbed vs. not jabbed. 

DocJones

Germany to force vaccinate?  Couldn't resist this meme.


Mistwell

Quote from: Kiero on December 04, 2021, 05:46:21 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 03, 2021, 10:04:23 PM
Prior infection may not offer good protection against Omicron infection.

Complete and utter bollocks, all part of the fear-driven narrative to try to coerce people who haven't already been jabbed to do so.

Newsflash! The jabs (designed for the now obsolete Alpha variant) don't provide any protection against Delta or Omicron. Every case they've recorded of Omicron so far has been in the double- or triple-jabbed. Fortunately, Omicron is even less severe than the weedy Delta was, no one has even been hospitalised with it. So the jabs are even more irrelevant.

The "pandemic" if there ever was one, is comprehensively over.

Hey, perpetual dumbass, the same source is saying the vaccine booster doesn't offer much protection against Omnicron either. So how would it be part of a fear-driven narrative to coerce people to get another booster vaccine when the next breath they tell you the booster isn't great against it either?

It can be true that prior infection AND the vaccine booster do not offer great protection against the Omnicron variant. They are not mutually exclusive statements.

Oh I know I know, your logic doesn't need to hold up to scrutiny. As long as you are consistent in your asshattery, that's all that matters right?

GeekyBugle

I wonder why are they pushing for 2+ "booster shoots" per year for everybody forever, and why is it the governments are willing to become fascists so these goals are met.

Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell