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Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

Started by Zirunel, May 31, 2020, 04:01:23 PM

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Kiero

Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 03, 2021, 10:05:11 AM
Wait, has anyone here denied that people WITH pre existing health problems are more at risk?

This isn't a new phenomenom, Take the common cold, to me it's nothing, if you're immuno compromised it could kill you.

But this doesn't justify violating the rights of millions of healthy people so the people at risk DON'T HAVE TO take responsability over their well being.
Exactly. I don't remember all these champions of public health demanding we lock down in the 2017/18 flu season.
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GeekyBugle

Quote from: Kiero on December 03, 2021, 10:09:39 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 03, 2021, 10:05:11 AM
Wait, has anyone here denied that people WITH pre existing health problems are more at risk?

This isn't a new phenomenom, Take the common cold, to me it's nothing, if you're immuno compromised it could kill you.

But this doesn't justify violating the rights of millions of healthy people so the people at risk DON'T HAVE TO take responsability over their well being.
Exactly. I don't remember all these champions of public health demanding we lock down in the 2017/18 flu season.

A disease that in México, with the "vaccines" and all, was killing about 50k a year before the "pandemic".

Miracoulosly no more Flu deaths, no more not covid related pneomonia deaths, etc.

Every single type of respiratory infection that used to kill people has all but vanished from the country.

"Experts" will tell you that covid drove them out, funny, normally being sick of something means more chances of getting something else cuz your immune system is compromised. But okay lets say it did.

Take the total deaths "from" covid, substract all the deaths you would expect from other diseases that have disapeared. And you're left with a very different number.

If instead of locking people down, we were trying to get them healthy by loosing weight and exercizing we would be getting much better results. But we did the opposite, Gyms closed, don't dare go to the park to run....

I mean world wide, México also bought into the histeria and our El Presidente lacks the cojones to stand up to the press and the "right wing parties" demanding we destroy our economy. The bitches keep on crying, I hope this time around the asshole grows a pair and tells them to fuck off. And I didn't vote for him cuz he's a fucking commie.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GeekyBugle

Welp, Germany has locked down the Untermenschen, I mean the unvaccinated. Because we all know those that got the shots can't get sick, die from it nor transmit it right? RIGHT?

Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Kiero

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Our podcast site, In Sanity We Trust Productions.

HappyDaze

Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 03, 2021, 10:20:34 AM
Quote from: Kiero on December 03, 2021, 10:09:39 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 03, 2021, 10:05:11 AM
Wait, has anyone here denied that people WITH pre existing health problems are more at risk?

This isn't a new phenomenom, Take the common cold, to me it's nothing, if you're immuno compromised it could kill you.

But this doesn't justify violating the rights of millions of healthy people so the people at risk DON'T HAVE TO take responsability over their well being.
Exactly. I don't remember all these champions of public health demanding we lock down in the 2017/18 flu season.

A disease that in México, with the "vaccines" and all, was killing about 50k a year before the "pandemic".

Miracoulosly no more Flu deaths, no more not covid related pneomonia deaths, etc.

Every single type of respiratory infection that used to kill people has all but vanished from the country.

"Experts" will tell you that covid drove them out, funny, normally being sick of something means more chances of getting something else cuz your immune system is compromised. But okay lets say it did.

Take the total deaths "from" covid, substract all the deaths you would expect from other diseases that have disapeared. And you're left with a very different number.

If instead of locking people down, we were trying to get them healthy by loosing weight and exercizing we would be getting much better results. But we did the opposite, Gyms closed, don't dare go to the park to run....

I mean world wide, México also bought into the histeria and our El Presidente lacks the cojones to stand up to the press and the "right wing parties" demanding we destroy our economy. The bitches keep on crying, I hope this time around the asshole grows a pair and tells them to fuck off. And I didn't vote for him cuz he's a fucking commie.
Mexico is a strange place then, because in Florida we still find flu, RSV, and other respiratory viruses along with a number of other respiratory conditions, both acute and chronic.

Pat

Quote from: HappyDaze on December 03, 2021, 10:39:37 AM
Mexico is a strange place then, because in Florida we still find flu, RSV, and other respiratory viruses along with a number of other respiratory conditions, both acute and chronic.
At least you don't have to worry about typhus and bubonic plague, like California and other third world countries.

Ghostmaker

Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 03, 2021, 10:24:51 AM
Welp, Germany has locked down the Untermenschen, I mean the unvaccinated. Because we all know those that got the shots can't get sick, die from it nor transmit it right? RIGHT?


The pictures are absolutely jaw-dropping. It's like Mutti Merkel decided to crib off old 1930s era German propaganda. All she needs is the funny mustache.








Kiero

And to think Remaincunts would ridicule Brexiteers for calling the EU the 4th Reich...
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Zelen

Flu disappearance is due to being outcompeted in the same niche as Sars-Cov-2. When flu returned to India (as well as other places, such as FL) it's an indication of herd immunity (through natural immune response).

King Tyranno

Quote from: Kiero on December 03, 2021, 11:22:31 AM
And to think Remaincunts would ridicule Brexiteers for calling the EU the 4th Reich...

For the same reason they get mad when you point out that vaccines are supposed to VACCINATE you against a disease and thus should only need to be taken once.

They know you're right. They just don't like you pointing it out because it interferes with their doctrine.

Also I still haven't seen anything that convinced me that voting Brexit was a bad thing. And lots of things from the EU that have convinced me I made the right choice to vote Brexit.

Pat

Quote from: King Tyranno on December 03, 2021, 12:09:41 PM
Quote from: Kiero on December 03, 2021, 11:22:31 AM
And to think Remaincunts would ridicule Brexiteers for calling the EU the 4th Reich...

For the same reason they get mad when you point out that vaccines are supposed to VACCINATE you against a disease and thus should only need to be taken once.
Like the tetanus vaccination?

Oh wait.

King Tyranno

Quote from: Pat on December 03, 2021, 12:19:10 PM
Quote from: King Tyranno on December 03, 2021, 12:09:41 PM
Quote from: Kiero on December 03, 2021, 11:22:31 AM
And to think Remaincunts would ridicule Brexiteers for calling the EU the 4th Reich...

For the same reason they get mad when you point out that vaccines are supposed to VACCINATE you against a disease and thus should only need to be taken once.
Like the tetanus vaccination?

Oh wait.

You're almost there. Keep going.

jhkim

Quote from: Pat on December 03, 2021, 11:09:06 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 03, 2021, 10:39:37 AM
Mexico is a strange place then, because in Florida we still find flu, RSV, and other respiratory viruses along with a number of other respiratory conditions, both acute and chronic.
At least you don't have to worry about typhus and bubonic plague, like California and other third world countries.

I was curious about that since you mentioned. From what I see, the geographic prevalence of typhus is higher in Mexico than the U.S. in general.


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_typhoid_fever
See also: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/typhoid-fever

Within the U.S., I don't see a national distribution map - but this is from a current Texas government report:

QuoteIn the United States, Texas reports the highest numbers of flea-borne typhus cases annually. From the 1940s through the early 2000s, highly endemic areas of typhus were limited to the lower Rio Grande Valley and the Coastal Bend area; however in the past 10 years, new areas of endemnicity have emerged in Bexar, Harris, and Travis counties, among others.
Source: https://www.dshs.texas.gov/IDCU/disease/murine_typhus/Flea-borne-Typhus.aspx

That is in absolute numbers rather than rate, so other states may have a higher rate per population - but it implies the rate is less in California which has a higher population.

Pat

Quote from: King Tyranno on December 03, 2021, 12:23:55 PM
Quote from: Pat on December 03, 2021, 12:19:10 PM
Quote from: King Tyranno on December 03, 2021, 12:09:41 PM
Quote from: Kiero on December 03, 2021, 11:22:31 AM
And to think Remaincunts would ridicule Brexiteers for calling the EU the 4th Reich...

For the same reason they get mad when you point out that vaccines are supposed to VACCINATE you against a disease and thus should only need to be taken once.
Like the tetanus vaccination?

Oh wait.

You're almost there. Keep going.
Almost where? I Insistonusingmyprivatedefinitionsforeverythinginsteadofacceptinghowwordsareusedbyeveryonelseland?

Pat

Quote from: jhkim on December 03, 2021, 12:27:02 PM
I was curious about that since you mentioned. From what I see, the geographic prevalence of typhus is higher in Mexico than the U.S. in general.
It was a reference to the tent cities and street defecation so popular, and the ensuring worry about the rise of medieval diseases like typhus. It's like a little corner of the dark ages amidst the stars and sunshine.