Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

[FelixGamingX1]

I'm confused as to why pictures of chicks in bikinis makes the quarantinen camps somehow ok? I've seen a fair bit of it on twitter. Like, are these Covid Cathouses where you get to meet Hot Covid Babes and fuck them?

I bet a whole lot more of men will be willing to quarantine now. Till the whole thing turns into one giant sausage party, then it won't be fun anymore. Nothing for nothing, both new cases and deaths are down significantly. If other things were happening in there I'm sure we would be hearing about it, real quick.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary feeling of Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Me paraphrasing Benjamin Franklin

Only sounds outlandish to us because it's a different culture. Australia is its own country, it doesn't need approval from anyone. That's what us here in the west don't understand. It's not a good look on us, they must think we are intolerant. The irony...

[Ratman_tf]

I'm confused as to why pictures of chicks in bikinis makes the quarantinen camps somehow ok? I've seen a fair bit of it on twitter. Like, are these Covid Cathouses where you get to meet Hot Covid Babes and fuck them?

I bet a whole lot more of men will be willing to quarantine now.

Men can get pretty stupid when it comes to pussy. That's why grandmas can sell their used panties online and pretend they're some kind of hot barely legal chick by grabbing some rando internet porn for their photos.
Which is what all this "hot quarantine chicks!" thing makes me think of.

[GeekyBugle]

I'm confused as to why pictures of chicks in bikinis makes the quarantinen camps somehow ok? I've seen a fair bit of it on twitter. Like, are these Covid Cathouses where you get to meet Hot Covid Babes and fuck them?

I bet a whole lot more of men will be willing to quarantine now. Till the whole thing turns into one giant sausage party, then it won't be fun anymore. Nothing for nothing, both new cases and deaths are down significantly. If other things were happening in there I'm sure we would be hearing about it, real quick.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary feeling of Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Me paraphrasing Benjamin Franklin

Only sounds outlandish to us because it's a different culture. Australia is its own country, it doesn't need approval from anyone. That's what us here in the west don't understand. It's not a good look on us, they must think we are intolerant. The irony...

"You can't criticize the Chinese Government for genociding the Huygur! It's their culture!"

Fuck that noise, human rights are universal, and their government is fucking them in the ass because they were stupid enough to disarm themselves.

It's not a good look on the fascists puting people on concentration camps, I'll keep on criticizing them because, ironically, our El Presidente (the one everybody keeps crying wants to be a dictator) turned out more pro freedom than most European leaders, any "Democrat" politician in the USA and the government of Pierre Trudeau's wife's son put together.

And this includes the fucking "I'm a conservative!" tories, our "right wing" parties and most of the Spanish politicians too.

[Mistwell]

How many healthy people, of appropriate weight and age and immune system, would need to be in the hospital, ICU, or die, for you to believe there is actual risk to people outside those categories?

In the UK, 1,500 people die of all causes every single day. At the moment 1,000 people die "with" (not from, 95% of those people actually die from their underlying conditions) covid a week.

Even if I was being generous and allowing all those "with", barely 10% of daily deaths with covid (c 140), when almost all those people are already sickly, is fuck all. Certainly doesn't merit any of this charade.

Thanks for answering a question I didn't ask.

How many healthy people, of appropriate weight and age and immune system, would need to be in the hospital, ICU, or die, for you to believe there is actual risk to people outside those categories?

[Mistwell]

Therefore everyone has a mild case, because you did.

Fatties, oldies and people with broken immune systems, don't, no.

Healthy people, nothing to concern themselves about.

How many healthy people, of appropriate weight and age and immune system, would need to be in the hospital, ICU, or die, for you to believe there is actual risk to people outside those categories?

CDC Data: ~70% of Covid Deaths in 1 Year Were in People With 6 Comorbid Medical Conditions! 97% Had 2 or More!
https://newsrescue.com/cdc-data-70-of-covid-deaths-in-1-year-were-in-people-with-6-comorbid-medical-conditions-97-had-2-or-more/

As a headline ending with a bang makes me a bit skeptical, here's the link to the CDC paper that the article claims to quote; read it for yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/pcd/issues/2021/pdf/21_0123.pdf

I think a better metric is relative risk of dying from covid vs the other risks of dying for your age and health. For example, more children 0-14 died of drowning (645) or homicide (893) in 2019
https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/usa-cause-of-death-by-age-and-gender (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention: Final Deaths 2019 Release Date 12/22/20.)

than children 0-17 from covid (621)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/

What I would really like would be for the data to be broken down by age and # of comorbitities. It would also be interesting to see how # of comorbidities correlates with age. That could then be compared to other risks of dying.

Yet another total failure to answer the question asked.

Guys, I am not asking you what you personally think the covid risks are right now.

I am asking you how many healthy people, of appropriate weight and age and immune system, would need to be in the hospital, ICU, or die, for you to believe there is actual risk to people outside those categories?

The answer to that question is not to dig into the numbers for covid and figure out what you think they are right now.

[Mistwell]

I'm confused as to why pictures of chicks in bikinis makes the quarantinen camps somehow ok? I've seen a fair bit of it on twitter. Like, are these Covid Cathouses where you get to meet Hot Covid Babes and fuck them?

You have my attention.

[Mistwell]

Biden orders "free" covid tests for all (except Pat, who has to pay through the nose).

I put "free" in quotes because, of course, it's paid for with taxpayer money, and that is meaningful.

This differs from the prior "free" order in that it now includes at-home testing kits.

[Shasarak]

Only sounds outlandish to us because it's a different culture. Australia is its own country, it doesn't need approval from anyone. That's what us here in the west don't understand. It's not a good look on us, they must think we are intolerant. The irony...

We here in the west?

Since when is Australia not in the west?   

[dkabq]

Therefore everyone has a mild case, because you did.

Fatties, oldies and people with broken immune systems, don't, no.

Healthy people, nothing to concern themselves about.

How many healthy people, of appropriate weight and age and immune system, would need to be in the hospital, ICU, or die, for you to believe there is actual risk to people outside those categories?

CDC Data: ~70% of Covid Deaths in 1 Year Were in People With 6 Comorbid Medical Conditions! 97% Had 2 or More!
https://newsrescue.com/cdc-data-70-of-covid-deaths-in-1-year-were-in-people-with-6-comorbid-medical-conditions-97-had-2-or-more/

As a headline ending with a bang makes me a bit skeptical, here's the link to the CDC paper that the article claims to quote; read it for yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/pcd/issues/2021/pdf/21_0123.pdf

I think a better metric is relative risk of dying from covid vs the other risks of dying for your age and health. For example, more children 0-14 died of drowning (645) or homicide (893) in 2019
https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/usa-cause-of-death-by-age-and-gender (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention: Final Deaths 2019 Release Date 12/22/20.)

than children 0-17 from covid (621)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/

What I would really like would be for the data to be broken down by age and # of comorbitities. It would also be interesting to see how # of comorbidities correlates with age. That could then be compared to other risks of dying.

Yet another total failure to answer the question asked.

Guys, I am not asking you what you personally think the covid risks are right now.

I am asking you how many healthy people, of appropriate weight and age and immune system, would need to be in the hospital, ICU, or die, for you to believe there is actual risk to people outside those categories?

The answer to that question is not to dig into the numbers for covid and figure out what you think they are right now.

You are correct, I mis-read the question.

The risk of covid to people outside of those categories is invariant with respect to the number of people in those categories that that are hospitalized, ICUed, or die.

Not sure where you are going with this.

And what do you mean by "actual risk"? Covid is an "actual risk" to everyone, but it is a relatively small risk to young healthy people compared to its risk to old sick people.

[Pat]

Biden orders "free" covid tests for all (except Pat, who has to pay through the nose).

I put "free" in quotes because, of course, it's paid for with taxpayer money, and that is meaningful.

This differs from the prior "free" order in that it now includes at-home testing kits.

In response to the fear mongering about omicron, and not to the concerns about the financial burden imposed by the test opt-out option. We still have to see if the cost of tests will be used to coerce poor workers into taking the jab. Hopefully it never reaches that level, and mandates are tossed out with extreme prejudice by the courts.

[Pat]

Not sure where you are going with this.

It's a dishonest attempt to reframe the question in a way that no matter how you answer, Mistwell can claim victory. Notice, for example, that the core question itself assumes you believe that covid has zero risk to healthy people. That is tantamountly false, because there's always a risk, even if it's minuscule. So if you answer the question directly, instead of challenging the precepts underlying the question, you're tacitly agreeing to a falsehood, which will allow Mistwell to jump in and claim "ha ha you're wrong!"

[Ghostmaker]

Amazing how many people here seem to be getting aroused at the prospect of putting people in camps.

[Kiero]

Spot the "pandemic":

[GeekyBugle]

Therefore everyone has a mild case, because you did.

Fatties, oldies and people with broken immune systems, don't, no.

Healthy people, nothing to concern themselves about.

How many healthy people, of appropriate weight and age and immune system, would need to be in the hospital, ICU, or die, for you to believe there is actual risk to people outside those categories?

CDC Data: ~70% of Covid Deaths in 1 Year Were in People With 6 Comorbid Medical Conditions! 97% Had 2 or More!
https://newsrescue.com/cdc-data-70-of-covid-deaths-in-1-year-were-in-people-with-6-comorbid-medical-conditions-97-had-2-or-more/

As a headline ending with a bang makes me a bit skeptical, here's the link to the CDC paper that the article claims to quote; read it for yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/pcd/issues/2021/pdf/21_0123.pdf

I think a better metric is relative risk of dying from covid vs the other risks of dying for your age and health. For example, more children 0-14 died of drowning (645) or homicide (893) in 2019
https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/usa-cause-of-death-by-age-and-gender (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention: Final Deaths 2019 Release Date 12/22/20.)

than children 0-17 from covid (621)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/

What I would really like would be for the data to be broken down by age and # of comorbitities. It would also be interesting to see how # of comorbidities correlates with age. That could then be compared to other risks of dying.

Yet another total failure to answer the question asked.

Guys, I am not asking you what you personally think the covid risks are right now.

I am asking you how many healthy people, of appropriate weight and age and immune system, would need to be in the hospital, ICU, or die, for you to believe there is actual risk to people outside those categories?

The answer to that question is not to dig into the numbers for covid and figure out what you think they are right now.

Wait, has anyone here denied that people WITH pre existing health problems are more at risk?

This isn't a new phenomenom, Take the common cold, to me it's nothing, if you're immuno compromised it could kill you.

But this doesn't justify violating the rights of millions of healthy people so the people at risk DON'T HAVE TO take responsability over their well being.

[KingCheops]

Wait, has anyone here denied that people WITH pre existing health problems are more at risk?

This isn't a new phenomenom, Take the common cold, to me it's nothing, if you're immuno compromised it could kill you.

But this doesn't justify violating the rights of millions of healthy people so the people at risk DON'T HAVE TO take responsability over their well being.

Well I mean we're in a society where telling someone to lose weight is being pushed as a hate crime.