Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

[Mistwell]

Time to update the talking points guys, Israel's adult population is no longer 88% vaccinated, they are now 52% vaccinated.

Lets pray to god Sweden / Norway / Denmark are able to embarass enough of this bullshit to pull us out of the tailspin into perpetual medical tyranny.

Once again with feeling: ISRAEL WAS NEVER 88% VACCINATED. ISRAEL WAS NOT EVEN IN THE TOP 30 NATIONS FOR PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION VACCINATED. IT IS A MYTH THAT ISRAEL IS AHEAD OF MOST NATIONS IN GETTING PEOPLE VACCINATED. THAT MYTH CAME FROM EARLY ON WHEN VACCINES FIRST CAME OUT WHERE ISRAEL WAS VACCINATING PEOPLE FAST. THAT SLOWED DOWN HOWEVER, AND FELL WELL BEHIND EVENTUALLY.

Wherever that stupid 88% number came from, it's a lie. Israel hasn't even hit 70% of the population with a single dose of the vaccine. I think the numbers being passed around are things like "percentage of the population ELIGIBLE TO BE VACCINATED" or some nonsense like that. But Israel is a particularly young nation, with a lot of people not eligible to be vaccinated. They also are seeing a lot of younger people who are eligible to get the vaccine not getting it. And the Orthodox and Arab population is fairly hesitant to get it. This has led to Israel falling behind most of Europe.

"One more time with feeling, one more time with style..."   
https://youtu.be/L3sdxYol8NM

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=ISR
2-dose = 64% of total pop
1-dose = 5.4% of total pop

Almost 27% of Israel's population is 0-14 years old. To the best of my knowledge, there is not an EUA vaccine for that age group.
https://www.indexmundi.com/israel/demographics_profile.html

You are correct, Israel has not hit 70% total pop vaccination -- they reached 69.72%.

And given that:

    0.64 (% of pop w/ 2 shots) / 0.73 (% of pop eligible to be vaccinated) = 0.88

it looks like 88% is the percentage of eligible pop 2-shot vaccinated.

Is there a data set out there that contradicts these values? If so, can you post the link?

Regards.

I believe OurWorldInData counts total doses and then divides that by two to get number of people fully vaxxed in Israel. Which is a workable method for most locations, but given Israel went to three doses for some people it breaks down for Israel in particular.

NYT Tracker shows Israel at 62% vaccinated. They carve out "additional dose" beyond the first two doses. If you sort by fully vaccinated you'll see Israel is sort of middle of the pack. They are not doing "bad" but they are far from the "best in the world" they used to be.

[Shasarak]

NZ just realized getting rid of covid isn't a choice. Oh my! Took them long enough. Wonder if AU will get the hint. Probably not?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/wireStory/zealand-admits-longer-rid-coronavirus-80389176

I believe that you are over estimating the NZ Government.

[oggsmash]

   I guess the problem is regarding vaccines, why would anyone trust the same people who have fucked this whole thing up the whole way?   Huge corporations have a very vested interest in getting people vaccinated, and if possible making the shot ongoing, in perpetuity if possible.  Seeing how married corporations and government is makes anyone with a brain question how much data is represented honestly and completely.   I have no doubts a vaccine may help with an infection.  I also have no doubt the government and corporations will do everything they can to cover up any problems from the vaccine, and in every way push fear for those not vaccinated. 

   I have been long at odds with trusting the government, and when in this case I need to accept what a bunch of talking heads and corporate fat cats who are immune from litigation say, because it is a "trust the science" moment, I take a pass.  I see everyone passing studies and stats back and forth.  I think at this point stats presenting both cases are so tainted with bias and fudging the best thing is to talk with your own doctor, and make the best decision for you.  Period. 

    I scratch my head and wonder when the wrap kids in bubble-wrap became the norm. 

[dkabq]

Time to update the talking points guys, Israel's adult population is no longer 88% vaccinated, they are now 52% vaccinated.

Lets pray to god Sweden / Norway / Denmark are able to embarass enough of this bullshit to pull us out of the tailspin into perpetual medical tyranny.

Once again with feeling: ISRAEL WAS NEVER 88% VACCINATED. ISRAEL WAS NOT EVEN IN THE TOP 30 NATIONS FOR PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION VACCINATED. IT IS A MYTH THAT ISRAEL IS AHEAD OF MOST NATIONS IN GETTING PEOPLE VACCINATED. THAT MYTH CAME FROM EARLY ON WHEN VACCINES FIRST CAME OUT WHERE ISRAEL WAS VACCINATING PEOPLE FAST. THAT SLOWED DOWN HOWEVER, AND FELL WELL BEHIND EVENTUALLY.

Wherever that stupid 88% number came from, it's a lie. Israel hasn't even hit 70% of the population with a single dose of the vaccine. I think the numbers being passed around are things like "percentage of the population ELIGIBLE TO BE VACCINATED" or some nonsense like that. But Israel is a particularly young nation, with a lot of people not eligible to be vaccinated. They also are seeing a lot of younger people who are eligible to get the vaccine not getting it. And the Orthodox and Arab population is fairly hesitant to get it. This has led to Israel falling behind most of Europe.

"One more time with feeling, one more time with style..."   
https://youtu.be/L3sdxYol8NM

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=ISR
2-dose = 64% of total pop
1-dose = 5.4% of total pop

Almost 27% of Israel's population is 0-14 years old. To the best of my knowledge, there is not an EUA vaccine for that age group.
https://www.indexmundi.com/israel/demographics_profile.html

You are correct, Israel has not hit 70% total pop vaccination -- they reached 69.72%.

And given that:

    0.64 (% of pop w/ 2 shots) / 0.73 (% of pop eligible to be vaccinated) = 0.88

it looks like 88% is the percentage of eligible pop 2-shot vaccinated.

Is there a data set out there that contradicts these values? If so, can you post the link?

Regards.

I believe OurWorldInData counts total doses and then divides that by two to get number of people fully vaxxed in Israel. Which is a workable method for most locations, but given Israel went to three doses for some people it breaks down for Israel in particular.

NYT Tracker shows Israel at 62% vaccinated. They carve out "additional dose" beyond the first two doses. If you sort by fully vaccinated you'll see Israel is sort of middle of the pack. They are not doing "bad" but they are far from the "best in the world" they used to be.

Cannot see behind the NYT pay-wall.

Given that the Israel data is broken down into fully vaccinated and 1-dose vaccinated, I do not believe that your supposition is correct -- for the Israel data. Here is what OWIN say about their data:
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/10339795?p=cvd19_vaccine_stats&hl=en&visit_id=637689819035556759-2190985902&rd=1

Regardless, the latest OurWorldInData numbers for Israel are fully vaccinated = 61.3%. Also, I was able to find CNN data with fully vaccinated = 64.3%
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/health/global-covid-vaccinations/

The CNN data shows that you are correct (scroll down to "The race to get fully vaccinated"), in terms of total population, Israel is middle of the pack. However, as ~27% of their population is 0-14 years old, the best they can currently get is 73% total pop vaccinated. It would be interesting to see now the countries stack up in terms of % of eligible pop vaccinated.

[Kiero]

Literally everything you wrote is wrong.

Israel is not the most vaccinated country on the planet. It's not even vaguely close to that. They stalled out quite a while ago and are not even in the top 30. In fact most of Europe is ahead of them at this point. They stalled at 67% vaccinated (62% fully vaccinated). That's 2% and 1% ahead of the U.S., respectively. For reference, Pundit's Uruguay is WELL ahead of Israel at 79% and 74% respectively (putting them in the top 10).

The vast majority of those seriously ill from Covid in Israel are unvaccinated.

Israel has not mandated a fourth jab.

You're in Mexico I believe. 97% of hospitalizations in Mexico from Covid are the unvaccinated.

So yeah, literally everything you said is wrong.

No, I'm in the UK. Everything I said is right, the jab does nothing. More people are being hospitalised and are dying of covid now, than a year ago when hardly anyone was jabbed. The majority of those people are double jabbed.

Here's a wonderful added bonus: since the jabbination started, deaths amongst teenagers are up 56% (from the ONS, which is the official source of UK statistics). Surely a coincidence, though?

[Ghostmaker]

NZ just realized getting rid of covid isn't a choice. Oh my! Took them long enough. Wonder if AU will get the hint. Probably not?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/wireStory/zealand-admits-longer-rid-coronavirus-80389176

I dunno. Looks like Dom Perrotet (the guy who succeeded the NSW premier after she resigned just ahead of a corruption investigation) seems to have a slightly more rational outlook. He's evidently very conservative by Australian standards.

His commentary so far seems to back it up: https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1445182322039422976

Of course, words are cheap. We'll see what he does. But it's a good first impression.

[Ghostmaker]

Francis Collins, director of the NIH, just quit.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/francis-collins-step-down-director-national-institutes-health

This is coming on the heels of an FOIA document dump by the Intercept that implicates both Fauci and Peter Daszak in gain-of-function research, and that Collins straight up lied about NIH involvement in such.

But hey, it's all a big conspiracy theory, right?

[Kiero]

Francis Collins, director of the NIH, just quit.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/francis-collins-step-down-director-national-institutes-health

This is coming on the heels of an FOIA document dump by the Intercept that implicates both Fauci and Peter Daszak in gain-of-function research, and that Collins straight up lied about NIH involvement in such.

But hey, it's all a big conspiracy theory, right?

As the canard goes, a "conspiracy theory" is just the "breaking news" six months from now.

[Garry G]

Francis Collins, director of the NIH, just quit.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/francis-collins-step-down-director-national-institutes-health

This is coming on the heels of an FOIA document dump by the Intercept that implicates both Fauci and Peter Daszak in gain-of-function research, and that Collins straight up lied about NIH involvement in such.

But hey, it's all a big conspiracy theory, right?

As the canard goes, a "conspiracy theory" is just the "breaking news" six months from now.

Cool beans, now if you can just explain the conspiracy and as a Brit tell me Boris Johnsons role.

[HappyDaze]

Francis Collins, director of the NIH, just quit.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/francis-collins-step-down-director-national-institutes-health

This is coming on the heels of an FOIA document dump by the Intercept that implicates both Fauci and Peter Daszak in gain-of-function research, and that Collins straight up lied about NIH involvement in such.

But hey, it's all a big conspiracy theory, right?

As the canard goes, a "conspiracy theory" is just the "breaking news" six months from now.

Oh look, a student of the Mike Lindell school.

And... It's still bullshit.

[Pat]

Francis Collins, director of the NIH, just quit.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/francis-collins-step-down-director-national-institutes-health

This is coming on the heels of an FOIA document dump by the Intercept that implicates both Fauci and Peter Daszak in gain-of-function research, and that Collins straight up lied about NIH involvement in such.

But hey, it's all a big conspiracy theory, right?

As the canard goes, a "conspiracy theory" is just the "breaking news" six months from now.

Cool beans, now if you can just explain the conspiracy and as a Brit tell me Boris Johnsons role.

Does the conspiracy involve Boris, Bernie, and Trump exchanging hair styling tips?

[Kiero]

Cool beans, now if you can just explain the conspiracy and as a Brit tell me Boris Johnsons role.

What's that stupid, fat cunt got to do with anything? You think he's really in control? It all happened while he was pre-occupied with how "poor" he feels paying maintenance for all his children whilst siring even more.

[Garry G]

Cool beans, now if you can just explain the conspiracy and as a Brit tell me Boris Johnsons role.

What's that stupid, fat cunt got to do with anything? You think he's really in control? It all happened while he was pre-occupied with how "poor" he feels paying maintenance for all his children whilst siring even more.

So who is in control? That would help define his role an a'hing.

[Reckall]

Meanwhile, some start to sniff that in May, 2019 they were already testing for the pandemic in Hubei. The source is WION, a sort of Indian CNN in English language.

[Mistwell]

the jab does nothing. More people are being hospitalised and are dying of covid now, than a year ago when hardly anyone was jabbed.

That you could write a sentence like that, without seeing the flaw in that logic, is baffling.

How are you an RPG player and unable to see how idiotic what you wrote sounds?