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Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

Started by Zirunel, May 31, 2020, 04:01:23 PM

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Mistwell

Quote from: SonTodoGato on August 30, 2021, 05:13:03 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on August 30, 2021, 04:43:32 PM
Quote from: SonTodoGato on August 30, 2021, 04:42:24 PM
Where were you when you realized the covid scandal was just an excuse for a one-world, totalitarian, socialist government?


Oh good lord, what a heaping mound of conspiracy theory nonsense.
Quote from: Pat on August 30, 2021, 05:06:53 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on August 30, 2021, 04:43:32 PM
Quote from: SonTodoGato on August 30, 2021, 04:42:24 PM
Where were you when you realized the covid scandal was just an excuse for a one-world, totalitarian, socialist government?


Oh good lord, what a heaping mound of conspiracy theory nonsense.
Yeah, that's a lot of conspiracy theory nonsense.

But it's impossible to dispute that covid-19 has been used an excuse to expand government powers and curtail civil liberties to an extent that was unimaginable just two years ago. That doesn't require any conspiracy theories, just simple observation and the recognition that people in power tend to act in ways that increase their own power.
Quote from: Pat on August 30, 2021, 05:06:53 PM

Yeah, that's a lot of conspiracy theory nonsense.

But it's impossible to dispute that covid-19 has been used an excuse to expand government powers and curtail civil liberties to an extent that was unimaginable just two years ago. That doesn't require any conspiracy theories, just simple observation and the recognition that people in power tend to act in ways that increase their own power.
The creation of a world government was the explicit goal of people like Churchill, Kalergi and H.G. Wells, De Gaulle, Truman, the institution of Freemasonry, Messianism, New Age, Mormonism, Baha'i and even the official policy of the US after WW2, the Fabian Society, the International Socialist, Fidel Castro, Gandhi, Einstein, Ben Gurion, NATO and many others.

If you want evidence, I can offer it to you. But I reckon you won't be willing to accept it.

Hey, SonTodoGato, could you tell me what role Israel plays in the behind-the-scenes manipulation of the creation of this planned one-world-government? And does Israel, in the form of people of the Jewish faith, have allies scattered around the nations helping achieve this plan?

Shasarak

If you want to see any evidence about how bad a one world government would be then just take a look at the shit show known as the EU.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

SonTodoGato

#2297
Quote from: oggsmash on August 30, 2021, 05:16:57 PM
Never let a crisis go to waste.  Said the dude right out loud.  Not too conspiratorial.

Don't forget that the US funded gain-of-function research in China FUCKING WUHAN which targeted "coronaviruses from bats". Wonder why there isn't worldwide suspicion on that.

Quote from: Shasarak on August 30, 2021, 05:18:28 PM
If you want to see any evidence about how bad a one world government would be then just take a look at the shit show known as the EU.

I never said it was efficient or convenient, just to clarify. I'm saying that is the explicit goal of many organizations. In the words of both Chruchill and Kalergi, founders of the EU, it was meant to be a step towards world government.

Quote from: Mistwell on August 30, 2021, 05:17:36 PM
Hey, SonTodoGato, could you tell me what role Israel plays in the behind-the-scenes manipulation of the creation of this planned one-world-government? And does Israel, in the form of people of the Jewish faith, have allies scattered around the nations helping achieve this plan?

I know what you're trying to do here. You argue in bad faith, you're prejudiced, close-minded and are trying to bait me.

Pat

Quote from: SonTodoGato on August 30, 2021, 05:13:03 PM
The creation of a world government was the explicit goal of people like Churchill, Kalergi and H.G. Wells, De Gaulle, Truman, the institution of Freemasonry, Messianism, New Age, Mormonism, Baha'i and even the official policy of the US after WW2, the Fabian Society, the International Socialist, Fidel Castro, Gandhi, Einstein, Ben Gurion, NATO and many others.

If you want evidence, I can offer it to you. But I reckon you won't be willing to accept it.
If you make 500 claims, 499 of which are false, and someone calls them nonsense, you can't just make one true statement and claim it proves everything you've said is right. That's a conspiracy theorist's argument.

The idea that a bunch of people have argued in favor of a one world government isn't controversial. That you think it is, and that you assume nobody will believe you, is more conspiracy theorist thinking.

Pat

Quote from: SonTodoGato on August 30, 2021, 05:30:55 PM
I know what you're trying to do here. You argue in bad faith, you're prejudiced, close-minded and are trying to bait me.
Pot, kettle.

Pat

Quote from: Shasarak on August 30, 2021, 05:18:28 PM
If you want to see any evidence about how bad a one world government would be then just take a look at the shit show known as the EU.
Just wait until Janet Yellin imposes a worldwide minimum income tax.

SonTodoGato

Quote from: Pat on August 30, 2021, 06:05:41 PM
If you make 500 claims, 499 of which are false, and someone calls them nonsense, you can't just make one true statement and claim it proves everything you've said is right. That's a conspiracy theorist's argument.

The idea that a bunch of people have argued in favor of a one world government isn't controversial. That you think it is, and that you assume nobody will believe you, is more conspiracy theorist thinking.

Quote from: Pat on August 30, 2021, 06:07:24 PM
Quote from: SonTodoGato on August 30, 2021, 05:30:55 PM
I know what you're trying to do here. You argue in bad faith, you're prejudiced, close-minded and are trying to bait me.
Pot, kettle.













I'm not interested in arguing banal things or insulting each other.

These ideas were official state policy and the personal vision of many accomplished heads of state, organizations and religions. What's irrational is to think these goals are somehow gone and irrelevant in the globalist world we live in.

oggsmash

Quote from: Pat on August 30, 2021, 06:09:25 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on August 30, 2021, 05:18:28 PM
If you want to see any evidence about how bad a one world government would be then just take a look at the shit show known as the EU.
Just wait until Janet Yellin imposes a worldwide minimum income tax.

  I thought when I heard her bring that up as a summit topic...what a weird fucking thing for any country to agree to.  I guess the USA pays so many they can sort of dictate a bit.  I suspect the digital nomads are killing the Tax man, along with the many, many, many corporations that signal their leftist virtues yet dodge every way they can to pay federal or state taxes to help get those leftist ideas paid for.

oggsmash

 And if that fails, do what they do to the nations that refuse to use the petro dollar or central banking and drop a little freedom and democracy on them.

Shasarak

Quote from: Pat on August 30, 2021, 06:09:25 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on August 30, 2021, 05:18:28 PM
If you want to see any evidence about how bad a one world government would be then just take a look at the shit show known as the EU.
Just wait until Janet Yellin imposes a worldwide minimum income tax.

Sounds like fun.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Pat

#2305
Quote from: oggsmash on August 30, 2021, 06:14:29 PM
Quote from: Pat on August 30, 2021, 06:09:25 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on August 30, 2021, 05:18:28 PM
If you want to see any evidence about how bad a one world government would be then just take a look at the shit show known as the EU.
Just wait until Janet Yellin imposes a worldwide minimum income tax.

  I thought when I heard her bring that up as a summit topic...what a weird fucking thing for any country to agree to.  I guess the USA pays so many they can sort of dictate a bit.  I suspect the digital nomads are killing the Tax man, along with the many, many, many corporations that signal their leftist virtues yet dodge every way they can to pay federal or state taxes to help get those leftist ideas paid for.
It's a raw exercise in power, and another step in the continual erosion of national independence in favor of global "standards" dictated by and for the benefit of the most powerful actors on the world stage. The US wants more tax receipts, but they don't want to make the US more attractive to corporations by lowering taxes, so they can't allow other countries to do it either.

Edit: Here's a good analysis:
https://mises.org/wire/biden-and-janet-yellen-are-pushing-global-minimum-tax-rate-eu-very-pleased

Pat

Quote from: SonTodoGato on August 30, 2021, 06:14:20 PM
I'm not interested in arguing banal things or insulting each other.
You're also not interested in a discussion. All you're doing is throwing up a smorgasbord of statements in other people's words, rather than making a coherent argument yourself.

SonTodoGato

Quote from: Pat on August 30, 2021, 06:23:34 PM
Quote from: SonTodoGato on August 30, 2021, 06:14:20 PM
I'm not interested in arguing banal things or insulting each other.
You're also not interested in a discussion. All you're doing is throwing up a smorgasbord of statements in other people's words, rather than making a coherent argument yourself.

Not at all, and you know it. I offered evidence in the way I could (and I have more and more); What else do you expect me to do? All you and the other guy did was mock me for "conspiracy theorist" and now you say I'm not open for a reasonable discussion?

You live in a world that is increasingly globalist and anti-nationalist, and literally heads of state stating this is their official policy. What makes it so far fetched to think the same project is still ongoing? Need I give more examples or will you ignore them?

SHARK

Greetings!

The resistance against Vaccine Mandates grows throughout the world!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

SHARK

Greetings!

Lots of Globalist slaves are eager for a one-world government. These people love the Kalergi Plan and Agenda 2030. Fuck these Globalist, Marxist scum. They need to be resisted at every opportunity.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b