Covid, the "lockdowns" etc.

[dkabq]

Bayesian analysis of Bangladesh study concludes masks have no effect: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360320982_The_Bangladesh_Mask_study_a_Bayesian_perspective

Negative correlation between mask usage and Covid-19 outcomes: https://www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-covid-19-outcomes-in-europe

Not surprised. There was never strong evidence that the public wearing masks would be effective. In fact, that was the conclusion of all previous studies pre-covid. But the then St. Fauci had a divine revelation (a road to Wuhan experience, one might say) that the general public wearing cloth or surgical masks would be effective.

To put it bluntly, masking mandates were a ho-ax. But the silver lining is that the masqubators still wearing them (especially outside, alone in their car, or for the walk form the restaurant door to their table [sitting a table puts you below the covid layer]) let me know who the dumb-asses/midwits are.

[Mistwell]

Bayesian analysis of Bangladesh study concludes masks have no effect: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360320982_The_Bangladesh_Mask_study_a_Bayesian_perspective

Negative correlation between mask usage and Covid-19 outcomes: https://www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-covid-19-outcomes-in-europe

Not surprised. There was never strong evidence that the public wearing masks would be effective. In fact, that was the conclusion of all previous studies pre-covid. But the then St. Fauci had a divine revelation (a road to Wuhan experience, one might say) that the general public wearing cloth or surgical masks would be effective.

To put it bluntly, masking mandates were a ho-ax. But the silver lining is that the masqubators still wearing them (especially outside, alone in their car, or for the walk form the restaurant door to their table [sitting a table puts you below the covid layer]) let me know who the dumb-asses/midwits are.

Don't attribute to stupid that which can be attributed to lazy. Sometimes, it's just easier to leave the damn thing on than take it off (which requires care to not touch the outside) and then put it back on again 5 mins later for something (which requires care to not touch the outside).

[dkabq]

Bayesian analysis of Bangladesh study concludes masks have no effect: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360320982_The_Bangladesh_Mask_study_a_Bayesian_perspective

Negative correlation between mask usage and Covid-19 outcomes: https://www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-covid-19-outcomes-in-europe

Not surprised. There was never strong evidence that the public wearing masks would be effective. In fact, that was the conclusion of all previous studies pre-covid. But the then St. Fauci had a divine revelation (a road to Wuhan experience, one might say) that the general public wearing cloth or surgical masks would be effective.

To put it bluntly, masking mandates were a ho-ax. But the silver lining is that the masqubators still wearing them (especially outside, alone in their car, or for the walk form the restaurant door to their table [sitting a table puts you below the covid layer]) let me know who the dumb-asses/midwits are.

Don't attribute to stupid that which can be attributed to lazy. Sometimes, it's just easier to leave the damn thing off than take it off (which requires care to not touch the outside) and then put it back on again 5 mins later for something (which requires care to not touch the outside).

Wearing a mask (other than an N95 or other respirator) in the first place puts them in the dumb-ass/midwit category. Even the Communist News Network's chief medical propagandist has declared that, "Cloth masks are little more than facial decorations".
https://reason.com/2021/12/21/leana-wen-cloth-mask-facial-decorations-covid-cdc-guidance/

I was out at lunch and a family of four came in. The only one wearing a (cloth) mask was the 6 year-old (i.e., the one with the lowest risk of dying from covid). The real irony here is that the child is at materially more risk from dying in an auto accident that from covid.

[Mistwell]

Bayesian analysis of Bangladesh study concludes masks have no effect: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360320982_The_Bangladesh_Mask_study_a_Bayesian_perspective

Negative correlation between mask usage and Covid-19 outcomes: https://www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-covid-19-outcomes-in-europe

Not surprised. There was never strong evidence that the public wearing masks would be effective. In fact, that was the conclusion of all previous studies pre-covid. But the then St. Fauci had a divine revelation (a road to Wuhan experience, one might say) that the general public wearing cloth or surgical masks would be effective.

To put it bluntly, masking mandates were a ho-ax. But the silver lining is that the masqubators still wearing them (especially outside, alone in their car, or for the walk form the restaurant door to their table [sitting a table puts you below the covid layer]) let me know who the dumb-asses/midwits are.

Don't attribute to stupid that which can be attributed to lazy. Sometimes, it's just easier to leave the damn thing off than take it off (which requires care to not touch the outside) and then put it back on again 5 mins later for something (which requires care to not touch the outside).

Wearing a mask (other than an N95 or other respirator) in the first place puts them in the dumb-ass/midwit category. Even the Communist News Network's chief medical propagandist has declared that, "Cloth masks are little more than facial decorations".
https://reason.com/2021/12/21/leana-wen-cloth-mask-facial-decorations-covid-cdc-guidance/

I was out at lunch and a family of four came in. The only one wearing a (cloth) mask was the 6 year-old (i.e., the one with the lowest risk of dying from covid). The real irony here is that the child is at materially more risk from dying in an auto accident that from covid.

Well for me, it's been N95 for a long time. Sometimes KN95, but usually full N95. And I fit them properly. And I don't touch the outside. And I replace them often. Which doesn't make me invulnerable, but I do think they help.

[dkabq]

Bayesian analysis of Bangladesh study concludes masks have no effect: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360320982_The_Bangladesh_Mask_study_a_Bayesian_perspective

Negative correlation between mask usage and Covid-19 outcomes: https://www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-covid-19-outcomes-in-europe

Not surprised. There was never strong evidence that the public wearing masks would be effective. In fact, that was the conclusion of all previous studies pre-covid. But the then St. Fauci had a divine revelation (a road to Wuhan experience, one might say) that the general public wearing cloth or surgical masks would be effective.

To put it bluntly, masking mandates were a ho-ax. But the silver lining is that the masqubators still wearing them (especially outside, alone in their car, or for the walk form the restaurant door to their table [sitting a table puts you below the covid layer]) let me know who the dumb-asses/midwits are.

Don't attribute to stupid that which can be attributed to lazy. Sometimes, it's just easier to leave the damn thing off than take it off (which requires care to not touch the outside) and then put it back on again 5 mins later for something (which requires care to not touch the outside).

Wearing a mask (other than an N95 or other respirator) in the first place puts them in the dumb-ass/midwit category. Even the Communist News Network's chief medical propagandist has declared that, "Cloth masks are little more than facial decorations".
https://reason.com/2021/12/21/leana-wen-cloth-mask-facial-decorations-covid-cdc-guidance/

I was out at lunch and a family of four came in. The only one wearing a (cloth) mask was the 6 year-old (i.e., the one with the lowest risk of dying from covid). The real irony here is that the child is at materially more risk from dying in an auto accident that from covid.

Well for me, it's been N95 for a long time. Sometimes KN95, but usually full N95. And I fit them properly. And I don't touch the outside. And I replace them often. Which doesn't make me invulnerable, but I do think they help.

I am in agreement with you. A properly fitted and properly worn N95 has ~95% filter efficiency -- because that is what they are specifically designed to do. Not perfect, but a significant reduction.

And I 100% support your decision to wear an N95. I would even support you wearing any other type of mask for that matter, but would disagree about its efficacy.

[HappyDaze]

Bayesian analysis of Bangladesh study concludes masks have no effect: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360320982_The_Bangladesh_Mask_study_a_Bayesian_perspective

Negative correlation between mask usage and Covid-19 outcomes: https://www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-covid-19-outcomes-in-europe

Not surprised. There was never strong evidence that the public wearing masks would be effective. In fact, that was the conclusion of all previous studies pre-covid. But the then St. Fauci had a divine revelation (a road to Wuhan experience, one might say) that the general public wearing cloth or surgical masks would be effective.

To put it bluntly, masking mandates were a ho-ax. But the silver lining is that the masqubators still wearing them (especially outside, alone in their car, or for the walk form the restaurant door to their table [sitting a table puts you below the covid layer]) let me know who the dumb-asses/midwits are.

Don't attribute to stupid that which can be attributed to lazy. Sometimes, it's just easier to leave the damn thing off than take it off (which requires care to not touch the outside) and then put it back on again 5 mins later for something (which requires care to not touch the outside).

Wearing a mask (other than an N95 or other respirator) in the first place puts them in the dumb-ass/midwit category. Even the Communist News Network's chief medical propagandist has declared that, "Cloth masks are little more than facial decorations".
https://reason.com/2021/12/21/leana-wen-cloth-mask-facial-decorations-covid-cdc-guidance/

I was out at lunch and a family of four came in. The only one wearing a (cloth) mask was the 6 year-old (i.e., the one with the lowest risk of dying from covid). The real irony here is that the child is at materially more risk from dying in an auto accident that from covid.

Well for me, it's been N95 for a long time. Sometimes KN95, but usually full N95. And I fit them properly. And I don't touch the outside. And I replace them often. Which doesn't make me invulnerable, but I do think they help.

Are you adding eye protection?

[DocJones]

Well for me, it's been N95 for a long time. Sometimes KN95, but usually full N95. And I fit them properly. And I don't touch the outside. And I replace them often. Which doesn't make me invulnerable, but I do think they help.

Are you adding eye protection?

Covid can crawl up your butt if you use a public toilet. 

[HappyDaze]

Well for me, it's been N95 for a long time. Sometimes KN95, but usually full N95. And I fit them properly. And I don't touch the outside. And I replace them often. Which doesn't make me invulnerable, but I do think they help.

Are you adding eye protection?

Covid can crawl up your butt if you use a public toilet.

You don't wear ass protection?

[3catcircus]

Bayesian analysis of Bangladesh study concludes masks have no effect: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360320982_The_Bangladesh_Mask_study_a_Bayesian_perspective

Negative correlation between mask usage and Covid-19 outcomes: https://www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-covid-19-outcomes-in-europe

Not surprised. There was never strong evidence that the public wearing masks would be effective. In fact, that was the conclusion of all previous studies pre-covid. But the then St. Fauci had a divine revelation (a road to Wuhan experience, one might say) that the general public wearing cloth or surgical masks would be effective.

To put it bluntly, masking mandates were a ho-ax. But the silver lining is that the masqubators still wearing them (especially outside, alone in their car, or for the walk form the restaurant door to their table [sitting a table puts you below the covid layer]) let me know who the dumb-asses/midwits are.

Don't attribute to stupid that which can be attributed to lazy. Sometimes, it's just easier to leave the damn thing off than take it off (which requires care to not touch the outside) and then put it back on again 5 mins later for something (which requires care to not touch the outside).

Wearing a mask (other than an N95 or other respirator) in the first place puts them in the dumb-ass/midwit category. Even the Communist News Network's chief medical propagandist has declared that, "Cloth masks are little more than facial decorations".
https://reason.com/2021/12/21/leana-wen-cloth-mask-facial-decorations-covid-cdc-guidance/

I was out at lunch and a family of four came in. The only one wearing a (cloth) mask was the 6 year-old (i.e., the one with the lowest risk of dying from covid). The real irony here is that the child is at materially more risk from dying in an auto accident that from covid.

Well for me, it's been N95 for a long time. Sometimes KN95, but usually full N95. And I fit them properly. And I don't touch the outside. And I replace them often. Which doesn't make me invulnerable, but I do think they help.

This is where I am curious as to why you're still masking. I believe you indicated you received the jab, correct?  Is there an underlying medical condition (no details needed, nor would I ask for details)? 

After there was enough data for me to do my own risk assessment, I got the jab. I was "fully vaxed" while dealing with a ridiculous mask mandate - and then got COVID.  I was considered "boosted" and then got COVID again.  Neither masks nor jabs made any difference for me (typical community spread vs. occupational).

My point is this - while there may be risk factors (fat, high blood pressure, "the diahbeetus," etc.) that most USian people have, the biggest risk seems to be old age decrepitude or occupational exposure  - neither of which you probably fall under. Is it just inertia of having had to wear a mask under Governor Moron there in Cali (NJ keeps the title of Governor Jerk Off)?

Especially now that sufficient people have gotten jabbed or gotten COVID and that the current strains appear to have symptoms that seem to be indistinguishable from every other cold or allergy symptom, it seems like masks are now overkill for all but those working in a clinical environment (hospital, nursing home, prison, etc.)

[Eirikrautha]

Well for me, it's been N95 for a long time. Sometimes KN95, but usually full N95. And I fit them properly. And I don't touch the outside. And I replace them often. Which doesn't make me invulnerable, but I do think they help.

Are you adding eye protection?

Covid can crawl up your butt if you use a public toilet.

You don't wear ass protection?

For Mistwell, it would have to be full body...

[oggsmash]

  I am all for people who want to feel protected wearing respirators.   I like it because they can not bother me for not wearing a useless mask, and they can feel 100 percent protected (or as close as reality allows) no matter what I am doing.

[Mistwell]

Bayesian analysis of Bangladesh study concludes masks have no effect: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360320982_The_Bangladesh_Mask_study_a_Bayesian_perspective

Negative correlation between mask usage and Covid-19 outcomes: https://www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-covid-19-outcomes-in-europe

Not surprised. There was never strong evidence that the public wearing masks would be effective. In fact, that was the conclusion of all previous studies pre-covid. But the then St. Fauci had a divine revelation (a road to Wuhan experience, one might say) that the general public wearing cloth or surgical masks would be effective.

To put it bluntly, masking mandates were a ho-ax. But the silver lining is that the masqubators still wearing them (especially outside, alone in their car, or for the walk form the restaurant door to their table [sitting a table puts you below the covid layer]) let me know who the dumb-asses/midwits are.

Don't attribute to stupid that which can be attributed to lazy. Sometimes, it's just easier to leave the damn thing off than take it off (which requires care to not touch the outside) and then put it back on again 5 mins later for something (which requires care to not touch the outside).

Wearing a mask (other than an N95 or other respirator) in the first place puts them in the dumb-ass/midwit category. Even the Communist News Network's chief medical propagandist has declared that, "Cloth masks are little more than facial decorations".
https://reason.com/2021/12/21/leana-wen-cloth-mask-facial-decorations-covid-cdc-guidance/

I was out at lunch and a family of four came in. The only one wearing a (cloth) mask was the 6 year-old (i.e., the one with the lowest risk of dying from covid). The real irony here is that the child is at materially more risk from dying in an auto accident that from covid.

Well for me, it's been N95 for a long time. Sometimes KN95, but usually full N95. And I fit them properly. And I don't touch the outside. And I replace them often. Which doesn't make me invulnerable, but I do think they help.

Are you adding eye protection?

Just my glasses.

[Mistwell]

Bayesian analysis of Bangladesh study concludes masks have no effect: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360320982_The_Bangladesh_Mask_study_a_Bayesian_perspective

Negative correlation between mask usage and Covid-19 outcomes: https://www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-covid-19-outcomes-in-europe

Not surprised. There was never strong evidence that the public wearing masks would be effective. In fact, that was the conclusion of all previous studies pre-covid. But the then St. Fauci had a divine revelation (a road to Wuhan experience, one might say) that the general public wearing cloth or surgical masks would be effective.

To put it bluntly, masking mandates were a ho-ax. But the silver lining is that the masqubators still wearing them (especially outside, alone in their car, or for the walk form the restaurant door to their table [sitting a table puts you below the covid layer]) let me know who the dumb-asses/midwits are.

Don't attribute to stupid that which can be attributed to lazy. Sometimes, it's just easier to leave the damn thing off than take it off (which requires care to not touch the outside) and then put it back on again 5 mins later for something (which requires care to not touch the outside).

Wearing a mask (other than an N95 or other respirator) in the first place puts them in the dumb-ass/midwit category. Even the Communist News Network's chief medical propagandist has declared that, "Cloth masks are little more than facial decorations".
https://reason.com/2021/12/21/leana-wen-cloth-mask-facial-decorations-covid-cdc-guidance/

I was out at lunch and a family of four came in. The only one wearing a (cloth) mask was the 6 year-old (i.e., the one with the lowest risk of dying from covid). The real irony here is that the child is at materially more risk from dying in an auto accident that from covid.

Well for me, it's been N95 for a long time. Sometimes KN95, but usually full N95. And I fit them properly. And I don't touch the outside. And I replace them often. Which doesn't make me invulnerable, but I do think they help.

This is where I am curious as to why you're still masking. I believe you indicated you received the jab, correct?  Is there an underlying medical condition (no details needed, nor would I ask for details)? 

Totally fair question and the answer is I rarely do these days, except at work when I am working with someone obviously more comfortable with masks. Most situations don't call for a mask anymore outside of work. I'm down to "when I feel sick" or "when they feel sick" or "when it's obviously more polite to do so" or "it's still the policy of this place to mask and I want to go there."

But that's a relatively recent thing for me.  I have not fully shifted my thinking on it and still sometimes find myself wearing a mask in a situation where I don't need to be. I guess N. Ireland helped a lot with that though. Nobody masks there, and I was almost never in a situation where it was more polite to mask or anyone was obviously sick, so I was able to really enjoy living without one for almost the entire time (though still required on the plane). And on returning I don't find myself wearing it very often.

[oggsmash]

  It almost seems as if wearing the mask is borderline social conditioning, and a person's desire to wear one is guided by the group around them.

[Mistwell]

  It almost seems as if wearing the mask is borderline social conditioning, and a person's desire to wear one is guided by the group around them.

Like clothing.