2020 Election Commentary

[Tubesock Army]

At some point RPG.net is going to run out  room anything but their Neo-Marxist posturing. 


Also deadDMWalking go fuck yourself. I wouldn't be surprised if you are the Antifa tosser dressed up as the Indian

That "Antifa tosser" is a well-known MAGA figure you imbecile

[Mistwell]

They will never support the neocons as your days are just as numbered Mistwell.  They may have left Trump, but they are still nationalists.  They will destroy the GOP, or make it something completely different.

We shall see. Mitt Romney is coming out of this looking pretty good. Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush too. I don't think the flavor of nationalism is as tasty to many anymore.

[Mistwell]

Yup, about 45% of Trump supporters still support what happened. That sounds about right to me. Like I said, I think he just lost a majority of his prior support. Roughly the same numbers. We can dicker over about how much support he lost, but I don't think it can be realistically argued he didn't just lose a meaningful number of supporters whatever number you personally land on.

[VisionStorm]

Whatever the BLM twats have been doing doesn't excuse what happened yesterday.  We've had lots of riots in our history but we've never seen the seat of government stormed during a constitutional hearing.  Whether you believe it was justified and considering it wasn't a fully armed insurrection, it's still shocking and couldn't have helped the cause.  Either way the president initiated it and that will go down in history.

Yes it does. Because history happens within a context. It doesn't take place in a vacuum, unperturbed by the circumstances surrounding it. And the context under which our current history has unfolded is one where political violence and rampant riots coming from one political side have been rationalized and even lionized by the media and prominent political figures for YEARS, while the other side has been continuously silenced and held to a different standard.

It's not a matter of whether it's justified or not, but that it has become inevitable and WILL continue to escalate, cuz the media and the establishment, as well as useful idiots in social media, are already throwing fuel into the fire. So things WON'T end here. This is only the beginning and it won't end well for anyone. This is the future YOU* created.

*and if not "you" literally, then "you" figuratively, as in the so-called "Left", the media and the establishment fomenting this.

[Fergurg]

Whether we like it or not, the past 8 months have taught us one lesson: violence works.

Police departments are being defunded, people in power are bending over backwards to put into place "anti-racism" policies. The Southern Poverty Law Center recently removed "black supremacist" groups from monitoring, declaring that their ideology is a reasonable response to America. And how many people changed their votes in hopes of appeasing BLM?

In other words, the riots of the leftists got the results that they wanted. Did they really expect that nobody else would realize that?

[Shasarak]

The Leftist tears are delicious.

Attempted coup?  Slow clap.

[deadDMwalking]

Despite what your political masters have told you, myleftnut, you really can't have it both ways.

Actually, he's pointing out the double-standard that has been unfairly applied to BLM protesters.

Figures Show Stark Difference Between Arrests At D.C. Black Lives Matter Protest And Arrests At Capitol Hill

On June 1 alone, more than five times the number of people were arrested than on the day the Capitol was stormed, with 289 people booked.

One Night in D.C.: The Oral History of June 1, 2020

A day of peaceful protesting against the police killing of George Floyd turned violent in the nation's capital, as President Trump forced people away from the area surrounding the White House. Here's how a photo op became a flashpoint in the movement against racism.

Of course, it's a false equivalence to claim that people who broke through police barricades, illegally entered a building, caused property damage, broke windows and carried weapons are the same as people who were occupying a public space.

Reporting live, MSNBC correspondent Garrett Haake knew he couldn't soft-pedal what he was seeing. "As calmly as I could, I very specifically said what just happened," Haake tells The Ringer. "I didn't want it to be, 'The president just spoke' or 'clash with protesters.' There was no clash. People were forcibly, aggressively removed from that park with flash bangs and gas."

The brazen display of force, captured on video in broad daylight during a demonstration calling attention to yet more instances of the extrajudicial killing of Black Americans—including Breonna Taylor, shot eight times in her home by still-uncharged Louisville police officers; and Ahmaud Arbery, stalked and shot in Southeast Georgia while jogging by three men now charged with murder—symbolized exactly what the current movement is protesting. The scourge of racist policing predates Trump by centuries, but rather than acknowledge it with consequential legislation, he and his allies seem set on crushing the nationwide uprising against it. That was nakedly apparent on the first day of June.

[myleftnut]

Whatever the BLM twats have been doing doesn't excuse what happened yesterday.  We've had lots of riots in our history but we've never seen the seat of government stormed during a constitutional hearing.  Whether you believe it was justified and considering it wasn't a fully armed insurrection, it's still shocking and couldn't have helped the cause.  Either way the president initiated it and that will go down in history.

Yes it does. Because history happens within a context. It doesn't take place in a vacuum, unperturbed by the circumstances surrounding it. And the context under which our current history has unfolded is one where political violence and rampant riots coming from one political side have been rationalized and even lionized by the media and prominent political figures for YEARS, while the other side has been continuously silenced and held to a different standard.

It's not a matter of whether it's justified or not, but that it has become inevitable and WILL continue to escalate, cuz the media and the establishment, as well as useful idiots in social media, are already throwing fuel into the fire. So things WON'T end here. This is only the beginning and it won't end well for anyone. This is the future YOU* created.

*and if not "you" literally, then "you" figuratively, as in the so-called "Left", the media and the establishment fomenting this.

Sure why not?   The only thing that really irks me is these actions were take for the aggrandizement of one man.  People's lives are about to be wrecked because of this.  People Trump wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.  One thing is clear to me.  The deep state wants Trump's ass and they will get it.  The real deep state.  The one that doesn't care what party is in power. 

[Shasarak]

Sure why not?   The only thing that really irks me is these actions were take for the aggrandizement of one man.  People's lives are about to be wrecked because of this.  People Trump wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.  One thing is clear to me.  The deep state wants Trump's ass and they will get it.  The real deep state.  The one that doesn't care what party is in power.

For Gods sake, if I am on fire do not try and piss on me.

Just let me die in dignity and not covered in piss.

[SHARK]

Greetings!

Well, more and more people are fed up with being patient, and tolerant, and trying to use reason to interact with tyrannical, smug, condescending Liberals. Then you have the constant demonization of Conservatives; then you have fraud and corruption in elections; then you have government officials and the judiciary that stonewall, drag their feet, or otherwise avoid taking people's voices seriously and diligently pursuing investigations.

When people feel like they are banned, censored, silenced, vilified and ignored, efforts to address fraud in elections and voting are dismissed, and judges and other officials do nothing, what alternative is there?

Much more excitement to come, I'm sure.

Millions of Americans are not going to shut the fuck up, get on their knees, and submit to Marxist tyranny.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Ratman_tf]

Despite what your political masters have told you, myleftnut, you really can't have it both ways.

Actually, he's pointing out the double-standard that has been unfairly applied to BLM protesters.

It is true that BLM riots destroyed more black owned private property and damaged their neighborhoods than the DC riot.

[Ghostmaker]

Actually, he's pointing out the double-standard that has been unfairly applied to BLM protesters.

Which double standard is that? Are you suggesting that the people in Portland, Seattle, or Kenosha have less right to protection than our political elite?

Goodness. If the hammer had come down in those places, then sure, you could've made that argument. Too bad it didn't.

[jhkim]

Which double standard is that? Are you suggesting that the people in Portland, Seattle, or Kenosha have less right to protection than our political elite?

Goodness. If the hammer had come down in those places, then sure, you could've made that argument. Too bad it didn't.

So do you think that those breaking into the Capitol building should have been dealt with just as harshly as you advocated for those who rioted and vandalized in Portland, Seattle, and Kenosha? I believe that those who vandalize and engage in violence should be arrested and charged, regardless of their cause. Would you agree?

[myleftnut]

The lady who was killed was named Ashli Babbitt.  The video of her death can be found on YouTube.  She was shot while trying to climb through the glass of a door where Congress members were hiding.  She was a 35 year old veteran.  She gave her life for Donald fucking Trump. 

[jhkim]

The gift that keeps on giving.

Well, more and more people are fed up with being patient, and tolerant, and trying to use reason to interact with tyrannical, smug, condescending Liberals. Then you have the constant demonization of Conservatives; then you have fraud and corruption in elections; then you have government officials and the judiciary that stonewall, drag their feet, or otherwise avoid taking people's voices seriously and diligently pursuing investigations.

When people feel like they are banned, censored, silenced, vilified and ignored, efforts to address fraud in elections and voting are dismissed, and judges and other officials do nothing, what alternative is there?

So, here's the issue. Which side are people on? Ratman_tf is calling out hypocrisy - but is the answer to this more hypocrisy? Is violent rioting and vandalism justified, as long as it is the *right* people who are rioting?

I would say that no. People should be arrested and charged for violence, and it should be condemned regardless of who it comes from.

I would support peaceful organizing and protest, investigation and journalism, and pushing for local change. That goes for both liberals and conservatives.