2020 Election Commentary

[EOTB]

Speaking of being too stupid to question a narrative...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-TwUM8okMTM

[moonsweeper]

14 Senators were going to support the objection to the election.
After today, only 6 stuck with that plan.

That proportion looks about right, nationally, for what I think just happened to his overall support. A bit more than half of his former supporters finally said enough is enough. And those 8 Senators saw the way the winds had just changed.

If they honestly believed there was a problem with the vote, why would this change their minds.

Now, if they were just saying that to try and suck up to the constituents...

[Daztur]

And Trump folds like a little bitch: https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN29C131

Dude has no balls at all.

[Arkansan]

Well I think we've finally seen the end of the majority of Trump's prior support.

My parents are staunch Trump supporters, and have been for 4+ years. And this was the point where they finally, FINALLY were able to condemn him and regret their decision to support him.

And if they reacted that way, I can only imagine that response is happening across the nation tonight. Because they were hardcore supporters. 30 years of listening to right wing talk radio, constantly arguing with those who disagreed (in a logical and reasoned manner). And this was the day they decided enough was enough and they couldn't support him anymore.

I don't think he can successfully get the nomination ever again. I think this was, finally, the breaking point.

Huh, most of the conservatives I know were cheering this on. A lot of conservatives have lost all faith in the system, and rightfully so I believe.

[Arthur Frayn]

BLM and these deranged "patriots" are the same thing. Anyone defending this is a hypocrite.

Protesting (even with some rioting) and attempted insurrection are hardly the same thing. I hope that each of today's traitors are convicted and get the full 10 years in a Federal prison. As they deserve.

Why don't you defund the police now bitches.

This. What the fuck were they expecting? We saw over 200 days of the racial reckoning of 2020 where buildings were torched, residential homes were surrounded, business patrons were harrassed, and businesses themselves destroyed. The anarchy that reigned was downplayed and in some cases supported by establishment figures. To the right this proved that force works. Mob rule works. In several areas of the country politicans appeased the rioters.

And now I'm supposed to care when the right engages in the same tactics? Why would I when they're proven to be effective?

And why would I rely on s system that functions like this:

Except that these tactics haven't proven effective.  For anyone.  In fact, they have proven just the opposite: 

-Police are still regularly gunning down innocent black guys without any consequences whatsoever. 

-Democracy is still intact and Joe Biden is now President.  The embarrassing acts of sedition yesterday didn't make anyone think "oh golly gee willikers, I guess we should put our heads down and give in to the inbred bullies now!"  Instead, it has only made everyone think "damn, all those negative stereotypes about Trump supporters were completely dead on accurate.  I guess we need to more aggressively hunt them down and stamp them out like Al Qaeda terror cells."

Point being, that rioting just...  Doesn't work.  At all.

[Ghostmaker]

-Police are still regularly gunning down innocent black guys without any consequences whatsoever. 

I really hope you're speaking in a generalist sense, because if you're referring to Jacob 'Rape my baby momma and steal her kids' Blake, I'm going to be a bit peeved.

-Democracy is still intact and Joe Biden is now President.  The embarrassing acts of sedition yesterday didn't make anyone think "oh golly gee willikers, I guess we should put our heads down and give in to the inbred bullies now!"  Instead, it has only made everyone think "damn, all those negative stereotypes about Trump supporters were completely dead on accurate.  I guess we need to more aggressively hunt them down and stamp them out like Al Qaeda terror cells."

Point being, that rioting just...  Doesn't work.  At all.

As I stated before, I will give the Polident-Elect precisely all the respect that the Democrats gave Trump over four years.

But then, dissent is no longer patriotic when a Derpocrat is in charge, amirite?

[VisionStorm]

14 Senators were going to support the objection to the election.
After today, only 6 stuck with that plan.

That proportion looks about right, nationally, for what I think just happened to his overall support. A bit more than half of his former supporters finally said enough is enough. And those 8 Senators saw the way the winds had just changed.

If they honestly believed there was a problem with the vote, why would this change their minds.

Now, if they were just saying that to try and suck up to the constituents...

With the media and the establishment spin after what happened yesterday, supporting Trump's bid to stay in office became untenable. Even if they weren't just trying to suck up to the constituents, it's simply not gonna happen anymore. The official narrative now is about how Trump personally tried to stage a coup, even if it was just a couple of useful idiots storming into the Capitol on their own and assaulting absolutely no one--just dicking around like clowns and one woman getting killed. This is going to completely overshadow the voter fraud claims now.

Well I think we've finally seen the end of the majority of Trump's prior support.

My parents are staunch Trump supporters, and have been for 4+ years. And this was the point where they finally, FINALLY were able to condemn him and regret their decision to support him.

And if they reacted that way, I can only imagine that response is happening across the nation tonight. Because they were hardcore supporters. 30 years of listening to right wing talk radio, constantly arguing with those who disagreed (in a logical and reasoned manner). And this was the day they decided enough was enough and they couldn't support him anymore.

I don't think he can successfully get the nomination ever again. I think this was, finally, the breaking point.

Huh, most of the conservatives I know were cheering this on. A lot of conservatives have lost all faith in the system, and rightfully so I believe.

The only reason Democrat-aligned liberals haven't lost all faith in the system is because they're media-brainwashed, low information idiots who let themselves get fooled into voting for a senile old man nobody wanted, and his prison slave labor abusing cutthroat careerist politician running mate, so they have the illusion of having "won", despite the Democratic party not doing absolutely anything for them either and completely failing them throughout the pandemic, even as idiot voters did the party's bidding and voted for their appointed puppet.

If they had a working brain, they would've joined the Trump supporters in storming Capitol building and putting an end to this sham of a system.

[VisionStorm]

BLM and these deranged "patriots" are the same thing. Anyone defending this is a hypocrite.

Protesting (even with some rioting) and attempted insurrection are hardly the same thing. I hope that each of today's traitors are convicted and get the full 10 years in a Federal prison. As they deserve.

Why don't you defund the police now bitches.

This. What the fuck were they expecting? We saw over 200 days of the racial reckoning of 2020 where buildings were torched, residential homes were surrounded, business patrons were harrassed, and businesses themselves destroyed. The anarchy that reigned was downplayed and in some cases supported by establishment figures. To the right this proved that force works. Mob rule works. In several areas of the country politicans appeased the rioters.

And now I'm supposed to care when the right engages in the same tactics? Why would I when they're proven to be effective?

And why would I rely on s system that functions like this:

Except that these tactics haven't proven effective.  For anyone.  In fact, they have proven just the opposite: 

-Police are still regularly gunning down innocent black guys without any consequences whatsoever. 

-Democracy is still intact and Joe Biden is now President.  The embarrassing acts of sedition yesterday didn't make anyone think "oh golly gee willikers, I guess we should put our heads down and give in to the inbred bullies now!"  Instead, it has only made everyone think "damn, all those negative stereotypes about Trump supporters were completely dead on accurate.  I guess we need to more aggressively hunt them down and stamp them out like Al Qaeda terror cells."

Point being, that rioting just...  Doesn't work.  At all.

How can you possibly believe that democracy is intact if police regularly gun down innocent black guys without consequences (white guys also get gunned down as well, by the way, the media just doesn't report on it cuz they can't create outrage inducing, racebaiting spin out of cops killing white people)? Democracy hasn't been intact in decades. We're all just going through the motions.

[moonsweeper]

-Police are still regularly gunning down innocent black guys without any consequences whatsoever. 

Not really...according to the numbers it is mostly black people gunning down innocent black guys...

-Democracy is still intact and Joe Biden is now President.  The embarrassing acts of sedition yesterday didn't make anyone think "oh golly gee willikers, I guess we should put our heads down and give in to the inbred bullies now!"  Instead, it has only made everyone think "damn, all those negative stereotypes about Trump supporters were completely dead on accurate.  I guess we need to more aggressively hunt them down and stamp them out like Al Qaeda terror cells."

You might want to carry a handkerchief with you to wipe the spittle and froth off your lips after the TDS kicks in...It looks a little better in public.

[Ratman_tf]

And Trump folds like a little bitch: https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN29C131

Dude has no balls at all.

I'm going to enjoy all the wankers who wanted to see Trump dragged out of the White House explode in frustration. The sight of him smiling and waving is going to get us some tasty salt.

[Trond]

-Police are still regularly gunning down innocent black guys without any consequences whatsoever. 

Not really...according to the numbers it is mostly black people gunning down innocent black guys...

When I moved to America and realized just how tense race relations are, I decided to calculate rates of interracial violence (just to see how often whites really do lynch black people) based on FBI data, because no one else would. It's true that blacks are much more likely to kill blacks, and same with whites, but from the news you'd expect white people to form lunch mobs all the time. relatively speaking the likelihood of blacks killing whites is MUCH higher than the other way round. It's like ten times difference. Also much higher rates of black violence in general. The police keep clashing with blacks because the rates of crime in black communities is much higher. Now you could blame this on unemployment and such, but many immigrant communities are doing better than both blacks and whites. It's sadly become ingrained in the much lauded black culture (which to be fair has provided a lot to America culturally speaking, but seriously they have to look at their own culture and fix that "gangsta" culture)

[Trond]

Double post

[Mistwell]

14 Senators were going to support the objection to the election.
After today, only 6 stuck with that plan.

That proportion looks about right, nationally, for what I think just happened to his overall support. A bit more than half of his former supporters finally said enough is enough. And those 8 Senators saw the way the winds had just changed.

If they honestly believed there was a problem with the vote, why would this change their minds.

Now, if they were just saying that to try and suck up to the constituents...

The House also lost 20 members who had previously committed to voting in favor of the objection.

And yes, representing the views of their constituents is literally the job.

I think Trump just lost a very meaningful portion of his prior supporters. This was the turning point. A whole bunch of people are also resigning from the White House today as well. A line was crossed last night.

I think we are, finally, done with Trump. Sure, some hardcore fans will stick with him, but I think a lot of the more wishy-washy supporters who were "on board because he's good for the economy" or "on board because I hate that political correctness stuff" are finally at the point where supporting Trump is just not worth it to them anymore.

[Snowman0147]

They will never support the neocons as your days are just as numbered Mistwell.  They may have left Trump, but they are still nationalists.  They will destroy the GOP, or make it something completely different.

[Pat]

What's funny is how many of the politicians who ran away to hide at that military base or cowered under their desks are trying to play tough guy, as if by coming back with huge amount of armed protection to finish the vote makes them heroes.