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2020 Election Commentary

Started by deadDMwalking, July 17, 2020, 04:22:33 PM

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SHARK

Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 06, 2021, 07:05:38 PM
Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 06:36:12 PM
Greetings!

Ghostmaker, in the video I posted above, there is a massive crowd of Patriots loudly chanting, "FUCK THE TRAITORS! FUCK THE TRAITORS! FUCK THE TRAITORS!"

Just imagine when the Patriots decide that the traitors in our midst are DONE.

It looks like it's coming.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Shark,

My guess (and hopefully I'm wrong) is that we're going to see something akin to the Troubles in Ireland.

As I put it elsewhere, let's assume Trump has 70 million supporters (probably more, but 70 million is a nice round number).

If only a half-percent of those decide to get froggy, that's 375,000 hostiles.

The Provos (Provisional Irish Republican Army) was thought to number no more than ten thousand, tops.

How secure is Portland's electrical grid? How secure is LA's water supply? How does New York heat itself in the winter?

I mean, Bren, HappyDerp, Tubesnake Boogie, all seem to be eager to stick their dick in the crazy. Maybe they should understand what the stakes could be. Especially when the rules are off the table.

Greetings!

Indeed, Ghostmaker, I agree. I'm relaxing here at home, smoking my pipe and enjoying some fine coffee, watching several different live videos of the day's events. The Troubles in Ireland was no joke--and often got very bloody and vicious. I hope that it doesn't get to that, my friend! During the Troubles, it was a routine experience for people to be blown the fuck up, caught and beat to death in an alley, kidnapped, tortured, and killed, then dumped in a roadside ditch. Gunned the fuck down in a blaze of gunfire in broad daylight while sitting at a café for lunch, and more. Men, women, kids, everyone on the wrong side became a target. There were no "safe spaces".

The brainwashed cucks you mention that are so eager to stick their dick in crazy--*Laughing* Yeah, isn't that the truth? I am certainly committed and willing to defend myself and my community, and to defend our rights, and our Republic. You remember our oath--"Against all enemies, foreign and domestic, I'm sure. I always remember our sacred and righteous duty. Sticking your dick in crazy can often go very, very bad. I know some vets though, like some friends of mine back in the day, that have this terrifying kind of switch inside them. Everything can seem normal, then some tough guy runs his mouth and threatens them or does something really stupid, and the beasts barely blink. They don't talk about it, or even think about it, they just lock and load and shoot the fucker right there in the parking lot, or follow them to their house and firebomb them, and then light up a smoke afterwards. No emotion, no second thoughts, no worrying about your family--they feel like you are a threat to them, and you are fucking done. They are definitely not the kind of crazy you stick your dick into! *Laughing*

I sometimes laugh knowing that there's some very good reasons why guys like that often have isolated jobs where they work alone most of the time, or why they live in some small house way out in the edge of nowhere--they consciously or unconsciously make certain choices to avoid or minimize conflict. Make people like them feel threatened, and things tend to get ugly very fast.

If more and more of the country feels like their votes don't matter, like their rights are being taken away, well, yeah. The fucking brainwashed pussies can stand the fuck by. Millions of Americans are not going to get on their fucking knees for Marxism.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Shasarak

Quote from: HappyDaze on January 06, 2021, 07:38:22 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on January 06, 2021, 07:04:02 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on January 06, 2021, 05:09:45 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on January 06, 2021, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on January 06, 2021, 05:01:11 PM
Your patriots are criminals. They should be dealt with as such. Those that encourage their criminal behavior--like you SHARKtopussy, are criminals too.

Oh, now you hate criminal behaviour?

I bet that 180 narrative spin must have hurt.
When have I ever supported criminal behavior, you lying sack of pus? Get your fucking story straight, jackhole. I have always opposed violent criminal behavior and the encouraging of it.

You never say anything against criminal behaviour you ignorant warthog faced buffoon.  And now suddenly the pearls come out so you can clutch them while crying into your tea you miserable, vomitous mass.

So just go back to smelling your elderberries.
Oh, you poor dear, you can't read. I have spoken out against violence many times. It's a big part of why I butt heads with SHARK and his embracing of it is why I think he's such a pathetic loser.

You are well known for it.

Oh wait, no that was shitting your pants every time you see someone not wearing a mask.  That is what you are well known for.
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There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Arthur Frayn on January 06, 2021, 07:43:29 PM
Without going into detail, I'll just say that events at that "other" RPG site have inspired me to look for a new home.  And I'll say no more about that.

Welcome!

And suit yourself. We occasionally have a hate thread when that other site does something spectacularly stupid.
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Shasarak

Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

SHARK

Quote from: HappyDaze on January 06, 2021, 07:36:08 PM
Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 06:56:25 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on January 06, 2021, 06:43:46 PM
Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 06:36:12 PM

Just imagine when the Patriots decide that the traitors in our midst are DONE.

Yes, you just keep imagining that... And then you'll cry like a bitch when you realize the true patriots are not the criminals you endorse. You are a sad-sack, pathetic excuse for Marine, and real patriots will see it. And you'll go down like every other shark in Jaws did--like a bitch.

Greetings!

Fuck off, you weak, sobbing little bitch. You are nothing but a sniveling cockroach.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Being called names by a traitor to the legitimate government of the USA almost makes me feel...patriotic! Except that you're an all-talk, do-nothing little bitch, so your words mean less than a fart in the wind to me.

Greetings!

*Laughing* "All-talk, do-nothing little bitch" huh? You're such a toughguy! You really don't know me at all. Face to face, I'm not worried about a pathetic, flaccid jackass like you in the least. As for being an "All-talk, do-nothing little bitch", I think that title fits you very well, especially since YOU are the obnoxious fuckstick that has been verbally attacking and insulting many forum members here for quite some time now, unprovoked and without merit whatsoever.

I often voice my opinions about types of people, politically, or whatever. I defend myself from people that make personal attacks or insults towards me--like gibbering, cock-sucking morons like you.

I don't go around screeching insults at individual people and acting like a fucking ill-mannered, retarded baboon. That is a prestige class that you have earned all on your own.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Ratman_tf

Who do I call about a severe case of whiplash?



The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Arkansan

#2631
Watching the media meltdown on this has been delicious. Sadly though their target audience will buy in to the idea that the other side's riots are totally peaceful non events but this is just unacceptable.

Regardless of which side you are on I think it should be clear that we are not going back to the previous political norm any time soon. The interesting thing here is that the split is at ground level. It's one thing when politicians can't work together or have a conversation, but now broad swathes of the American public are at the point that they have nothing to say to one another. They have fundamentally different world views that do not co-exist well. Both sides have also shown a simmering discontent with the mainstream of their party, people forget that Bernie was an insurgent candidate in the Democrat party and made a damned strong showing in the 2015 primaries. Trump was an insurgent candidate in the Republican field and managed to to take both the primary and the national election. Now you have one side that has largely lost all faith in the function of the system and the validity of the results that system produces. To top it off the consistent "peaceful" protests of the past year combined with the skirmishing at rally's and events of the past four years has begun to normalize political violence.

There is a sea change in motion in the American political landscape and I think people haven't fully grasped yet just how wide ranging the consequences will be.

Mercurius

Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 02:11:33 PM
Quote from: jhkim on January 06, 2021, 12:56:47 PM
Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 11:18:37 AM
At the rally in Washington, DC just s bit ago, a Constitutional lawyer reached the stage with Rudi Juliani and described how the Democrats used the voting machine algorithyms to engage in fraud and subvert the Senate election in Georgia. This has evidently been observed in real time last night, and the team with President Trump understands very clearly how the Democrats have embraced fraud and corruption in the Senate election last night, and in the same manner that they embraced fraud and corruption on the 2020 Election on November 3, 2020.

Are you saying you consider the word of the *lawyer* to constitute serious evidence?!?  Previously there was a lot of big talk about how the Kraken was going to show everyone, convince judges, and disrupt the election. But now it seems like standards have slipped to the word of a lawyer and Twitter posters.


Quote from: shuddemell on January 06, 2021, 09:23:33 AM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on January 06, 2021, 09:08:11 AM
Quote from: jhkim on January 06, 2021, 03:59:45 AM
Tomorrow will be the counting in Congress. Without any successful court challenges, I don't see the legal grounds for blocking the vote. I think it's still worth discussing about the claims of various sources - like whether there really was a special forces raid in Germany for those servers and the results, or other points.

There wasn't, and what's more, the company that was supposedly raided has responded to this BS. They don't even have any offices in Germany. It's not worth discussing that any more than it is any of the other lies being spewed by the biggest bunch of sore loser crybabies in the history of US politics.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH... the lack of self awareness in this comment is epic. You seem to forget the the constant last 4 years of Democrats spewing lies and spinning conspiracies.... because they couldn't get over the results of an election. Pot meet kettle, what a dishonest floater you are.

So shuddemell, do you think that the raid in Germany happened?

As for Democrats, there are plenty of unverified claims regarding Russian interference on social media. However, the Democrats claiming Russian interference at least have some court cases on their side: the convictions of Flynn, Manafort, Papadopolous, Cohen, and Gates. And they have the Mueller report and other official statements from the DOJ and FBI - which don't implicate Trump personally, but have detailed Russian efforts to manipulate the election that include people in Trump's administration.

By contrast, the fraud claims from Trump have been more far-reaching, and have less verified evidence to show. There are a few dozen witnesses, but even the top selection of these have not convinced judges or election officials. Trump has been President of the United States for four years, and he has appointed a ton of judges and officials - yet even his own appointments (like William Barr) have largely not supported him in his claims.

Greetings!

I described what I saw of the live coverage of the Save America rally in Washington, DC. The man was introduced as one of the top Constitutional lawyers in the country, and listened to his description and analysis, in brief, of how the machines engaged in fraud. The Democrats are lying, corrupt scum that have engaged in a disgraceful litany of lies, fraud, corruption, and malice virtually every day over the last four years--and the Democrats have been subverted and corrupted by God-hating Marxists. I have been convinced that the Democrats have embraced corruption and fraud through a preponderance of evidence--signed affidavits, testimonies, statistical analysis, computer analysis, video footage, and what I saw on the night of the election. I support President Trump, and believe that our President loves America, and has been fighting the corrupt swamp so as to make America great. President Trump is fighting for TRUTH, and for America. I believe that President Trump won the 2020 election lawfully and fairly, and the corrupt Democrats and RINOS have worked to steal the 2020 Election from President Trump, and from the American people. Our sacred Republic is at risk, and all patriotic Americans should resist the Marxist Democrat fraud and subversion of our election and our country.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Wow, scary stuff. This is virtually verbatim from the fascist textbook.

Mercurius

Quote from: Brad on January 06, 2021, 02:12:35 PM
Haven't posted in a while to avoid all the fucking retarded CCP shills. Here is a video as a massive fuck you to anyone who said "you won't do anything".

Currently loading magazines, faggots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENPkiDl6Wdg

And this is just crazy.

Were you at the failed coup attempt, Brad?

Arkansan

Quote from: Mercurius on January 06, 2021, 08:30:47 PM
Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 02:11:33 PM
Quote from: jhkim on January 06, 2021, 12:56:47 PM
Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 11:18:37 AM
At the rally in Washington, DC just s bit ago, a Constitutional lawyer reached the stage with Rudi Juliani and described how the Democrats used the voting machine algorithyms to engage in fraud and subvert the Senate election in Georgia. This has evidently been observed in real time last night, and the team with President Trump understands very clearly how the Democrats have embraced fraud and corruption in the Senate election last night, and in the same manner that they embraced fraud and corruption on the 2020 Election on November 3, 2020.

Are you saying you consider the word of the *lawyer* to constitute serious evidence?!?  Previously there was a lot of big talk about how the Kraken was going to show everyone, convince judges, and disrupt the election. But now it seems like standards have slipped to the word of a lawyer and Twitter posters.


Quote from: shuddemell on January 06, 2021, 09:23:33 AM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on January 06, 2021, 09:08:11 AM
Quote from: jhkim on January 06, 2021, 03:59:45 AM
Tomorrow will be the counting in Congress. Without any successful court challenges, I don't see the legal grounds for blocking the vote. I think it's still worth discussing about the claims of various sources - like whether there really was a special forces raid in Germany for those servers and the results, or other points.

There wasn't, and what's more, the company that was supposedly raided has responded to this BS. They don't even have any offices in Germany. It's not worth discussing that any more than it is any of the other lies being spewed by the biggest bunch of sore loser crybabies in the history of US politics.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH... the lack of self awareness in this comment is epic. You seem to forget the the constant last 4 years of Democrats spewing lies and spinning conspiracies.... because they couldn't get over the results of an election. Pot meet kettle, what a dishonest floater you are.

So shuddemell, do you think that the raid in Germany happened?

As for Democrats, there are plenty of unverified claims regarding Russian interference on social media. However, the Democrats claiming Russian interference at least have some court cases on their side: the convictions of Flynn, Manafort, Papadopolous, Cohen, and Gates. And they have the Mueller report and other official statements from the DOJ and FBI - which don't implicate Trump personally, but have detailed Russian efforts to manipulate the election that include people in Trump's administration.

By contrast, the fraud claims from Trump have been more far-reaching, and have less verified evidence to show. There are a few dozen witnesses, but even the top selection of these have not convinced judges or election officials. Trump has been President of the United States for four years, and he has appointed a ton of judges and officials - yet even his own appointments (like William Barr) have largely not supported him in his claims.

Greetings!

I described what I saw of the live coverage of the Save America rally in Washington, DC. The man was introduced as one of the top Constitutional lawyers in the country, and listened to his description and analysis, in brief, of how the machines engaged in fraud. The Democrats are lying, corrupt scum that have engaged in a disgraceful litany of lies, fraud, corruption, and malice virtually every day over the last four years--and the Democrats have been subverted and corrupted by God-hating Marxists. I have been convinced that the Democrats have embraced corruption and fraud through a preponderance of evidence--signed affidavits, testimonies, statistical analysis, computer analysis, video footage, and what I saw on the night of the election. I support President Trump, and believe that our President loves America, and has been fighting the corrupt swamp so as to make America great. President Trump is fighting for TRUTH, and for America. I believe that President Trump won the 2020 election lawfully and fairly, and the corrupt Democrats and RINOS have worked to steal the 2020 Election from President Trump, and from the American people. Our sacred Republic is at risk, and all patriotic Americans should resist the Marxist Democrat fraud and subversion of our election and our country.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Wow, scary stuff. This is virtually verbatim from the fascist textbook.

For heaven's sake Fascism is a specific ideology with a specific definition, you can't honestly call anything you don't like fascist. Throwing the term around like you are just reduces the impact of it.

Mercurius

#2635
Quote from: Arkansan on January 06, 2021, 08:34:25 PM
For heaven's sake Fascism is a specific ideology with a specific definition, you can't honestly call anything you don't like fascist. Throwing the term around like you are just reduces the impact of it.

I'm not "throwing it around" and I rarely use it. But Shark's "America Rah Rah, kill all the Marxists" rap is very much part of the totalitarian playbook. Get rid of anyone different, anyone who doesn't believe in the Fearless Leader, or as I do.

But perhaps "fascism" gives them too much credit. Trump is a wannabe fascist at this point, and his followers are like ignorant lemmings.

p.s. I didn't say Fascist, I said fascist (small f). Fascism is a specific ideology, but fascism has at least two definitions. I'm using the latter:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

"a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control."

EOTB

creating a small-f definition doesn't turn the nonsensical, sensical.  By that standard 99% of all governments in history were "fascist"; it turns something from an aberration into the overwhelming historical norm.

Which would be very stupid rhetoric, and why it's not surprising that #2 definition was created (probably within the last 10 years).
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Tubesock Army

Quote from: Mercurius on January 06, 2021, 08:31:37 PM
Quote from: Brad on January 06, 2021, 02:12:35 PM
Haven't posted in a while to avoid all the fucking retarded CCP shills. Here is a video as a massive fuck you to anyone who said "you won't do anything".

Currently loading magazines, faggots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENPkiDl6Wdg

And this is just crazy.

Were you at the failed coup attempt, Brad?

Please, Brad cried to the DTRPG mods when I needled him there about a review he left. You think he could be at a scene like that without a case of diapers in one hand, and his mommy's hand in the other?

Mistwell

Well I think we've finally seen the end of the majority of Trump's prior support.

My parents are staunch Trump supporters, and have been for 4+ years. And this was the point where they finally, FINALLY were able to condemn him and regret their decision to support him.

And if they reacted that way, I can only imagine that response is happening across the nation tonight. Because they were hardcore supporters. 30 years of listening to right wing talk radio, constantly arguing with those who disagreed (in a logical and reasoned manner). And this was the day they decided enough was enough and they couldn't support him anymore.

I don't think he can successfully get the nomination ever again. I think this was, finally, the breaking point.

Mercurius

Quote from: EOTB on January 06, 2021, 09:00:53 PM
creating a small-f definition doesn't turn the nonsensical, sensical.  By that standard 99% of all governments in history were "fascist"; it turns something from an aberration into the overwhelming historical norm.

Which would be very stupid rhetoric, and why it's not surprising that #2 definition was created (probably within the last 10 years).

I doubt it. It isn't unlike Libertarian vs. libertarian, or any other number of things. The latter (fascist) is a matter of degree, so yes, most governments involve some degree of fascist tendencies.

But it is quite one thing to have flavors of authoritarianism, quite another to raid the capitol and try to subvert the Constitution.