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2020 Election Commentary

Started by deadDMwalking, July 17, 2020, 04:22:33 PM

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Ratman_tf

Quote from: HappyDaze on January 06, 2021, 09:01:48 AM
Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 03:50:26 AM
Greetings!

I just read from the MSM that the Democrats are now projected to win both of the Georgia Senate races.

Such a victory will provide the Democrats--assisted by two "Independent" Senators that routinely vote Democrat a 50-50 tie in the US Senate against the Republicans, with Kamala being the voting tie breaker as the projected Vice President.

Such wonderful news. :(

Happy New Years is starting out just great. >:(

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
The Democrats need to thank Trump for this. If Trump hadn't thrown his post-election loss tantrums, the Republicans likely would have done better in Georgia. It's not that the Republicans needed him to actively help them win, it's that he actively sabotaged the whole thing for them because he's a petulant child--if he can't win, he's going to make sure no Republicans can.

Because Republicans never lost an election before Trump.  ::)
And the Democrats held a four year tantrum after Trump won in 2016. Didn't seem to hurt them.
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deathknight4044

Quote from: HappyDaze on January 06, 2021, 09:01:48 AM
Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 03:50:26 AM
Greetings!

I just read from the MSM that the Democrats are now projected to win both of the Georgia Senate races.

Such a victory will provide the Democrats--assisted by two "Independent" Senators that routinely vote Democrat a 50-50 tie in the US Senate against the Republicans, with Kamala being the voting tie breaker as the projected Vice President.

Such wonderful news. :(

Happy New Years is starting out just great. >:(

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
The Democrats need to thank Trump for this. If Trump hadn't thrown his post-election loss tantrums, the Republicans likely would have done better in Georgia. It's not that the Republicans needed him to actively help them win, it's that he actively sabotaged the whole thing for them because he's a petulant child--if he can't win, he's going to make sure no Republicans can.


Laughably out of touch take,  but I think your comment is more of a concern troll.

Anyways Republicans lost because congress shot down a stimulus bill that Trump explicitly requested. Something that had over 70% support from republicans and independents. Furthermore the candidates in question are percieved to have turned their back on a president that has a 93% in party approval.

Neo cons will desperately do what you're saying and try to wash their hands of trumpism, but they will face the wrath of their voters and be replaced in doing so. Republicans arent buying what they're selling. They want trumpism. The collapse in fox news ratings pretty much overnight tells you all that you need to know about the desired direction of the party.

SHARK

Greetings!

At the rally in Washington, DC just s bit ago, a Constitutional lawyer reached the stage with Rudi Juliani and described how the Democrats used the voting machine algorithyms to engage in fraud and subvert the Senate election in Georgia. This has evidently been observed in real time last night, and the team with President Trump understands very clearly how the Democrats have embraced fraud and corruption in the Senate election last night, and in the same manner that they embraced fraud and corruption on the 2020 Election on November 3, 2020.

More fraud and corruption from the Marxist Democrats. Damn right America needs to be saved from these corrupt traitors! The disgusting, corrupt Democrats, and their wormy, snivelling RINO allies as well. They all need to effing pay!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

HappyDaze

Quote from: deathknight4044 on January 06, 2021, 11:01:25 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on January 06, 2021, 09:01:48 AM
Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 03:50:26 AM
Greetings!

I just read from the MSM that the Democrats are now projected to win both of the Georgia Senate races.

Such a victory will provide the Democrats--assisted by two "Independent" Senators that routinely vote Democrat a 50-50 tie in the US Senate against the Republicans, with Kamala being the voting tie breaker as the projected Vice President.

Such wonderful news. :(

Happy New Years is starting out just great. >:(

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
The Democrats need to thank Trump for this. If Trump hadn't thrown his post-election loss tantrums, the Republicans likely would have done better in Georgia. It's not that the Republicans needed him to actively help them win, it's that he actively sabotaged the whole thing for them because he's a petulant child--if he can't win, he's going to make sure no Republicans can.


Laughably out of touch take,  but I think your comment is more of a concern troll.

Anyways Republicans lost because congress shot down a stimulus bill that Trump explicitly requested. Something that had over 70% support from republicans and independents. Furthermore the candidates in question are percieved to have turned their back on a president that has a 93% in party approval.

Neo cons will desperately do what you're saying and try to wash their hands of trumpism, but they will face the wrath of their voters and be replaced in doing so. Republicans arent buying what they're selling. They want trumpism. The collapse in fox news ratings pretty much overnight tells you all that you need to know about the desired direction of the party.
I can agree that many that "voted Republican" really just "voted Trump" (and that at least some that "voted Democrat" probably just "voted anti-Trump") in the election. The downside of the two-party system is that the alliances with radical independents (even if they don't identify themselves as such) sometimes hurt more than they help. On the Left we have the hard Socialists that drag down the mainstream Democrats (and may destroy it if their numbers continue to grow), and on the right, we have the Trumpists that are destroying the Republican party because they seem to have grown to outnumber the reasonable conservatives.

In a dream world, I would love to see the moderate members of both parties form a third party and leave the extreme Left and extreme Right out on their own.

HappyDaze

Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 11:18:37 AM
Greetings!

At the rally in Washington, DC just s bit ago, a Constitutional lawyer reached the stage with Rudi Juliani and described how the Democrats used the voting machine algorithyms to engage in fraud and subvert the Senate election in Georgia. This has evidently been observed in real time last night, and the team with President Trump understands very clearly how the Democrats have embraced fraud and corruption in the Senate election last night, and in the same manner that they embraced fraud and corruption on the 2020 Election on November 3, 2020.

More fraud and corruption from the Marxist Democrats. Damn right America needs to be saved from these corrupt traitors! The disgusting, corrupt Democrats, and their wormy, snivelling RINO allies as well. They all need to effing pay!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
You're still believing anything brought forth by Rudy Giuliani (BTW, learn how to spell his name, you fucking dimwit)? You are so far gone that you must be crying to yourself while you masturbate to your fallen Emperor.

Larsdangly

Just for fun, can any of the alt-right dipshits who like to post here point me toward a single documented instance of voter fraud in the 2020 election or yesterday's run-off at a scale that could have impacted a state-level outcome? All I've heard is blathering nonsense about some fourth hand story someone saw on Parler. 

SHARK

Quote from: HappyDaze on January 06, 2021, 11:26:24 AM
Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 11:18:37 AM
Greetings!

At the rally in Washington, DC just s bit ago, a Constitutional lawyer reached the stage with Rudi Juliani and described how the Democrats used the voting machine algorithyms to engage in fraud and subvert the Senate election in Georgia. This has evidently been observed in real time last night, and the team with President Trump understands very clearly how the Democrats have embraced fraud and corruption in the Senate election last night, and in the same manner that they embraced fraud and corruption on the 2020 Election on November 3, 2020.

More fraud and corruption from the Marxist Democrats. Damn right America needs to be saved from these corrupt traitors! The disgusting, corrupt Democrats, and their wormy, snivelling RINO allies as well. They all need to effing pay!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
You're still believing anything brought forth by Rudy Giuliani (BTW, learn how to spell his name, you fucking dimwit)? You are so far gone that you must be crying to yourself while you masturbate to your fallen Emperor.

Greetings!

I misspelled Rudi Giuliani's name. *shrug* So fucking what? At least I am not a weak-minded, Marxist cuck like you.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

deathknight4044

Quote from: HappyDaze on January 06, 2021, 11:22:56 AM
Quote from: deathknight4044 on January 06, 2021, 11:01:25 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on January 06, 2021, 09:01:48 AM
Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 03:50:26 AM
Greetings!

I just read from the MSM that the Democrats are now projected to win both of the Georgia Senate races.

Such a victory will provide the Democrats--assisted by two "Independent" Senators that routinely vote Democrat a 50-50 tie in the US Senate against the Republicans, with Kamala being the voting tie breaker as the projected Vice President.

Such wonderful news. :(

Happy New Years is starting out just great. >:(

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
The Democrats need to thank Trump for this. If Trump hadn't thrown his post-election loss tantrums, the Republicans likely would have done better in Georgia. It's not that the Republicans needed him to actively help them win, it's that he actively sabotaged the whole thing for them because he's a petulant child--if he can't win, he's going to make sure no Republicans can.


Laughably out of touch take,  but I think your comment is more of a concern troll.

Anyways Republicans lost because congress shot down a stimulus bill that Trump explicitly requested. Something that had over 70% support from republicans and independents. Furthermore the candidates in question are percieved to have turned their back on a president that has a 93% in party approval.

Neo cons will desperately do what you're saying and try to wash their hands of trumpism, but they will face the wrath of their voters and be replaced in doing so. Republicans arent buying what they're selling. They want trumpism. The collapse in fox news ratings pretty much overnight tells you all that you need to know about the desired direction of the party.
I can agree that many that "voted Republican" really just "voted Trump" (and that at least some that "voted Democrat" probably just "voted anti-Trump") in the election. The downside of the two-party system is that the alliances with radical independents (even if they don't identify themselves as such) sometimes hurt more than they help. On the Left we have the hard Socialists that drag down the mainstream Democrats (and may destroy it if their numbers continue to grow), and on the right, we have the Trumpists that are destroying the Republican party because they seem to have grown to outnumber the reasonable conservatives.

In a dream world, I would love to see the moderate members of both parties form a third party and leave the extreme Left and extreme Right out on their own.

I would gladly support a far right party and probably do so as soon as it is viable. Neocons are garbage and essentially just Democrats going the speed limit. They've conserved nothing besides welfare for corporations rather than welfare for their people, embraced mass migration for a steady influx of unlimited cheap labor, have allowed gun rights to suffer death by a thousand cuts with feeble pushback, and have conceeded every cultural issue of importance, dooming us to this globehomo clownworld of today where Netflixs "cuties" and Desmond the amazing are accepted.

The neoliberal and neoconservative factions in this country pass the ball back and forth while going through business as usual, all while giving bullshit lip service theatrics to their supporters. It would be wonderful to see them gone and I believe we will in time, as a lot of young people of either political ideology are very angry and very disillusioned with the system.

SHARK

Quote from: deathknight4044 on January 06, 2021, 12:11:22 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on January 06, 2021, 11:22:56 AM
Quote from: deathknight4044 on January 06, 2021, 11:01:25 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze on January 06, 2021, 09:01:48 AM
Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 03:50:26 AM
Greetings!

I just read from the MSM that the Democrats are now projected to win both of the Georgia Senate races.

Such a victory will provide the Democrats--assisted by two "Independent" Senators that routinely vote Democrat a 50-50 tie in the US Senate against the Republicans, with Kamala being the voting tie breaker as the projected Vice President.

Such wonderful news. :(

Happy New Years is starting out just great. >:(

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
The Democrats need to thank Trump for this. If Trump hadn't thrown his post-election loss tantrums, the Republicans likely would have done better in Georgia. It's not that the Republicans needed him to actively help them win, it's that he actively sabotaged the whole thing for them because he's a petulant child--if he can't win, he's going to make sure no Republicans can.


Laughably out of touch take,  but I think your comment is more of a concern troll.

Anyways Republicans lost because congress shot down a stimulus bill that Trump explicitly requested. Something that had over 70% support from republicans and independents. Furthermore the candidates in question are percieved to have turned their back on a president that has a 93% in party approval.

Neo cons will desperately do what you're saying and try to wash their hands of trumpism, but they will face the wrath of their voters and be replaced in doing so. Republicans arent buying what they're selling. They want trumpism. The collapse in fox news ratings pretty much overnight tells you all that you need to know about the desired direction of the party.
I can agree that many that "voted Republican" really just "voted Trump" (and that at least some that "voted Democrat" probably just "voted anti-Trump") in the election. The downside of the two-party system is that the alliances with radical independents (even if they don't identify themselves as such) sometimes hurt more than they help. On the Left we have the hard Socialists that drag down the mainstream Democrats (and may destroy it if their numbers continue to grow), and on the right, we have the Trumpists that are destroying the Republican party because they seem to have grown to outnumber the reasonable conservatives.

In a dream world, I would love to see the moderate members of both parties form a third party and leave the extreme Left and extreme Right out on their own.

I would gladly support a far right party and probably do so as soon as it is viable. Neocons are garbage and essentially just Democrats going the speed limit. They've conserved nothing besides welfare for corporations rather than welfare for their people, embraced mass migration for a steady influx of unlimited cheap labor, have allowed gun rights to suffer death by a thousand cuts with feeble pushback, and have conceeded every cultural issue of importance, dooming us to this globehomo clownworld of today where Netflixs "cuties" and Desmond the amazing are accepted.

The neoliberal and neoconservative factions in this country pass the ball back and forth while going through business as usual, all while giving bullshit lip service theatrics to their supporters. It would be wonderful to see them gone and I believe we will in time, as a lot of young people of either political ideology are very angry and very disillusioned with the system.

Greetings!

Very true, Deathknight. Neoliberals and Neocons are both worthless scum that merely wear different coloured ties from each other. I was just watching the live coverage of the Save America rally in Washington, DC, and the broadcast features these two young women reporters that are reporting for Right Side Broadcasting, and it is so refreshing to listen to some young reporters--these two women, Liz and Grace--that are patriotic and Conservative, and which love America, they love our heritage and traditions, and they are both very vocal in their support and love for President Trump. It is great hearing how they both stand against the Marxist Democrats, fraud and corruption. So many loyal, patriotic Americans gathered together in DC! Many fellow citizens share your values and your concerns, Deathknight. Make no mistake, my friend, we are not alone. MILLIONS of Americans love America, and support President Trump, oppose fucking Globalism, Socialism and Marxism.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Tubesock Army

Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 12:05:08 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on January 06, 2021, 11:26:24 AM
Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 11:18:37 AM
Greetings!

At the rally in Washington, DC just s bit ago, a Constitutional lawyer reached the stage with Rudi Juliani and described how the Democrats used the voting machine algorithyms to engage in fraud and subvert the Senate election in Georgia. This has evidently been observed in real time last night, and the team with President Trump understands very clearly how the Democrats have embraced fraud and corruption in the Senate election last night, and in the same manner that they embraced fraud and corruption on the 2020 Election on November 3, 2020.

More fraud and corruption from the Marxist Democrats. Damn right America needs to be saved from these corrupt traitors! The disgusting, corrupt Democrats, and their wormy, snivelling RINO allies as well. They all need to effing pay!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
You're still believing anything brought forth by Rudy Giuliani (BTW, learn how to spell his name, you fucking dimwit)? You are so far gone that you must be crying to yourself while you masturbate to your fallen Emperor.

Greetings!

I misspelled Rudi Giuliani's name. *shrug* So fucking what? At least I am not a weak-minded, Marxist cuck like you.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

You're cucking for Trump pretty hard. You should start signing your posts with SIMPer Fidelis.

jhkim

Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 11:18:37 AM
At the rally in Washington, DC just s bit ago, a Constitutional lawyer reached the stage with Rudi Juliani and described how the Democrats used the voting machine algorithyms to engage in fraud and subvert the Senate election in Georgia. This has evidently been observed in real time last night, and the team with President Trump understands very clearly how the Democrats have embraced fraud and corruption in the Senate election last night, and in the same manner that they embraced fraud and corruption on the 2020 Election on November 3, 2020.

Are you saying you consider the word of the *lawyer* to constitute serious evidence?!?  Previously there was a lot of big talk about how the Kraken was going to show everyone, convince judges, and disrupt the election. But now it seems like standards have slipped to the word of a lawyer and Twitter posters.


Quote from: shuddemell on January 06, 2021, 09:23:33 AM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on January 06, 2021, 09:08:11 AM
Quote from: jhkim on January 06, 2021, 03:59:45 AM
Tomorrow will be the counting in Congress. Without any successful court challenges, I don't see the legal grounds for blocking the vote. I think it's still worth discussing about the claims of various sources - like whether there really was a special forces raid in Germany for those servers and the results, or other points.

There wasn't, and what's more, the company that was supposedly raided has responded to this BS. They don't even have any offices in Germany. It's not worth discussing that any more than it is any of the other lies being spewed by the biggest bunch of sore loser crybabies in the history of US politics.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH... the lack of self awareness in this comment is epic. You seem to forget the the constant last 4 years of Democrats spewing lies and spinning conspiracies.... because they couldn't get over the results of an election. Pot meet kettle, what a dishonest floater you are.

So shuddemell, do you think that the raid in Germany happened?

As for Democrats, there are plenty of unverified claims regarding Russian interference on social media. However, the Democrats claiming Russian interference at least have some court cases on their side: the convictions of Flynn, Manafort, Papadopolous, Cohen, and Gates. And they have the Mueller report and other official statements from the DOJ and FBI - which don't implicate Trump personally, but have detailed Russian efforts to manipulate the election that include people in Trump's administration.

By contrast, the fraud claims from Trump have been more far-reaching, and have less verified evidence to show. There are a few dozen witnesses, but even the top selection of these have not convinced judges or election officials. Trump has been President of the United States for four years, and he has appointed a ton of judges and officials - yet even his own appointments (like William Barr) have largely not supported him in his claims.

Tubesock Army

Pence just released a statement that he intends to read the votes as per his Constitutional duty, and accepts that he has no ability to interfere. Popping corn, and grabbing a brew. The salt mining today will be glorious.

shuddemell

#2562
Quote from: jhkim on January 06, 2021, 12:56:47 PM
Quote from: SHARK on January 06, 2021, 11:18:37 AM
At the rally in Washington, DC just s bit ago, a Constitutional lawyer reached the stage with Rudi Juliani and described how the Democrats used the voting machine algorithyms to engage in fraud and subvert the Senate election in Georgia. This has evidently been observed in real time last night, and the team with President Trump understands very clearly how the Democrats have embraced fraud and corruption in the Senate election last night, and in the same manner that they embraced fraud and corruption on the 2020 Election on November 3, 2020.

Are you saying you consider the word of the *lawyer* to constitute serious evidence?!?  Previously there was a lot of big talk about how the Kraken was going to show everyone, convince judges, and disrupt the election. But now it seems like standards have slipped to the word of a lawyer and Twitter posters.


Quote from: shuddemell on January 06, 2021, 09:23:33 AM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on January 06, 2021, 09:08:11 AM
Quote from: jhkim on January 06, 2021, 03:59:45 AM
Tomorrow will be the counting in Congress. Without any successful court challenges, I don't see the legal grounds for blocking the vote. I think it's still worth discussing about the claims of various sources - like whether there really was a special forces raid in Germany for those servers and the results, or other points.

There wasn't, and what's more, the company that was supposedly raided has responded to this BS. They don't even have any offices in Germany. It's not worth discussing that any more than it is any of the other lies being spewed by the biggest bunch of sore loser crybabies in the history of US politics.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH... the lack of self awareness in this comment is epic. You seem to forget the the constant last 4 years of Democrats spewing lies and spinning conspiracies.... because they couldn't get over the results of an election. Pot meet kettle, what a dishonest floater you are.

So shuddemell, do you think that the raid in Germany happened?

As for Democrats, there are plenty of unverified claims regarding Russian interference on social media. However, the Democrats claiming Russian interference at least have some court cases on their side: the convictions of Flynn, Manafort, Papadopolous, Cohen, and Gates. And they have the Mueller report and other official statements from the DOJ and FBI - which don't implicate Trump personally, but have detailed Russian efforts to manipulate the election that include people in Trump's administration.

By contrast, the fraud claims from Trump have been more far-reaching, and have less verified evidence to show. There are a few dozen witnesses, but even the top selection of these have not convinced judges or election officials. Trump has been President of the United States for four years, and he has appointed a ton of judges and officials - yet even his own appointments (like William Barr) have largely not supported him in his claims.

My comment has nothing to do with whether or not the raid happened, and no, I haven't seen compelling evidence of that. Also the convictions you point to have ZERO to do with collusion (which was obviously manufactured and I still have yet to see these tools of the deep state do time for it which points to a very heavy leftist bias in the courts, both legal and of public opinion) and rather are other things they caught in the process. I would say that the evidence of fraud is actually pretty obvious, especially if you examine the results statistically, but you really have to be pretty dishonest to believe that Republicans are any worse than Democrats with regard to being salty about an election. The reason there is less verified evidence is largely because of court and media interference, and I have yet to see an honest appraisal of them by any court that wasn't generally partisan in one or more ways. It's largely why I haven't weighed in much about this issue, as I see some statistical "impossibilities" but until it is had out in court properly, I cannot say which is true (and likely not even then), though based on the past four years, I lean to Democrat corruption at the basest level.
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TNMalt

So who here is going to bail ship to another country after Jan 20?

Trond

To the people who think that Democrats handled the riots in an OK fashion, I'm sorry but this is just pathetic. Ted Wheeler was seemingly fine with letting Portland burn until the election was more or less settled. I had been following this, and drew the same conclusion as this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W9HrwJS0dY