2020 Election Commentary

[Shasarak]

"Regardless of what people say about or to me, I WILL NEVER BE SILENCED WITH THE TRUTH IN MY HANDS! The truth will set all free from the bonds of lies. ... it is given freely to all who listen." -Anonymous
While I like to keep things light, lately I have found my self and others having a lack of maturity and vision. A thread was closed because of this. Let's keep things civil and lively!
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The Left is in Despair, their killing game is almost over:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/mathematician-bobby-piton-finds-500000-unique-last-names-pennsylvania-sophisticated-state-actor-able-optimize-desired-outcome/

Bobby Piton, the mathematician who testified at the Arizona voter fraud hearing dropped a bombshell this weekend. Piton revealed this weekend that he examined just over 9 million records in Pennsylvania and has identified 521,879 unique last names. In other words, these people have no parents, siblings, aunts, uncles or cousins who share the same last name (phantom voters). Pennsylvania has 695,430 Fewer People in the top 1000 Last Names. Bobby Piton found that there were fewer people with common surnames such as Smith, Jackson, Johnson. Bobby Piton essentially discovered where those 695,000+ illegal ballots came from in Pennsylvania. President Trump was ahead of Joe Biden by over 700,000 votes on election night in Pennsylvania and within a few days after the election, hundreds of thousands of ballots appeared for Joe Biden. Between 695,000 to 958,000 voters just got up and vanished out of Pennsylvania! Based on Piton's findings, it appears that a centralized actor was calling the shots. Bobby Piton says a sophisticated State Actor was able to optimize a desired outcome for both the state of  Georgia and Pennsylvania.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/evidence-foreign-influence-2020-election-nevada-secretary-state-caught-sending-voter-data-list-pakistani-firm-linked-isi/

Catherine Engelbrecht is the Founder and President of True The Vote the nation's largest voters' rights group. In November True the Vote wrote the Nevada Secretary of State for the eligible voter list report. When the Secretary of State responded True the Vote was shocked to see that waqas@kavtech.net was cc'ed. True the Vote later wrote the Assistant Attorney General for National Security John C. Demers about the date breach. The letter obtained exclusively by Breitbart News that when the email arrived, "I was shocked to see the inclusion of another email address in the CC line." https://v1.nitrocdn.com/PtUefQrfncdsWOjilqcqdvGyQbUvpoWC/assets/static/source/rev-8b632d2/wp-content/uploads/engelbrecht-1-666x479.jpg
https://twitter.com/PatrickByrne/status/1343564483583766530

Whats next?
Amazingly, the Electoral College vote can be challenged under federal law and the United States Constitution. Republican electors in seven contested states cast alternate votes for Donald Trump to keep their legal options open. State legislatures retain their constitutional authority to offer alternative slates of electors. And Congress is the ultimate arbiter of the race since the ballot count can be contested during the joint session on January 6. If Brooks and one Senator object to certain state elector slates, then all bets are off. On January 6, Republicans may control the Senate and have strength in the House, just one Senator could step up and begin to change the course of history!
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/23/fitton-hope-for-a-failed-election/
https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/28/mo-brooks-dozens-in-the-house-will-sponsor-objections-to-biden-video/

Republican Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert and a group of other GOP figures filed a lawsuit Sunday against Vice President Mike Pence in an effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election. The lawsuit focuses on Pence, who will oversee the upcoming Jan. 6 meeting of Congress to count states' electoral votes and finalize President-elect Joe Biden's victory over President Donald Trump: https://dailycaller.com/2020/12/28/louie-gohmert-republicans-sue-mike-pence-overturn-presidential-election-biden-kelli-ward/

This could mean TREASON:
https://twitter.com/Lrihendry/status/1343550784286371841

None of this is true but thanks for sharing I guess.

Also, when was your diagnosis of serious mental illness and what meds are you on?

I fact checked the claim that a member of the House and a senator can object to the electors and turns out that it fact checks: true.

So....turns out relying on CNN is not so accurate.

[rawma]

Republican Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert and a group of other GOP figures filed a lawsuit Sunday against Vice President Mike Pence in an effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election. The lawsuit focuses on Pence, who will oversee the upcoming Jan. 6 meeting of Congress to count states' electoral votes and finalize President-elect Joe Biden's victory over President Donald Trump: https://dailycaller.com/2020/12/28/louie-gohmert-republicans-sue-mike-pence-overturn-presidential-election-biden-kelli-ward/

This is about predictions of the future, rather than factual claims about what happened in the election. I'm fine with seeing what will happen on January 6th.

The outcome of the case is in the future, but it is indeed accurate that a lawsuit Louie Gohmert et al v. Pence has been filed and does seek to give Pence exclusive power to decide what electoral votes to count. The lawsuit seems unlikely to succeed; if it were actually correct then Al Gore could have unilaterally chosen  himself as president in 2000. I would be fascinated to hear how anyone who supports this intends to have it not apply when a Democrat presides. Or is the plan to simply dispense with all future elections and always appoint a corrupt Republican who will perpetuate this scheme?

Amusingly, the complaint includes the following quotation from a Supreme Court decision (after 32. on page 11):

The Supreme Court has affirmed that the "power and jurisdiction of the state [legislature]" to select electors "is exclusive," McPherson v. Blacker, 146 U.S. 1, 11 (1892)

(The case cited was about whether having electors elected by congressional district is constitutional; Maine and Nebraska both do this.) But the Supreme Court decision actually says "the power and jurisdiction of the state is exclusive"; the lawsuit adds a word that is not present. I'm sure that such a liberty will not bother any judge or justice anywhere.

[rawma]

I fact checked the claim that a member of the House and a senator can object to the electors and turns out that it fact checks: true.

Sure, the Electoral Count Act says that a complaint must be signed by at least one member from each chamber. For 2000, House members objected to the electoral votes from Florida but no Senator signed on, so the objection was not debated and voted on. For 2004, Ohio's electoral votes were objected to, with the objection debated and voted on by each chamber separately.

Since the House votes in the usual way and not with one vote by state (as was the case in the 2004 election and in an objection to a faithless elector in 1969), the electoral votes objected to will not be rejected unless the Democratic majority in the House accepts the objection. The more interesting question is whether any Senator will join an objection, and if so how individual Senators will vote between fair elections and Trump; Mitch McConnell is trying to get all Republican Senators to agree not to join any objections to avoid such a vote. At 49-48 Republican, it's not clear that the Senate would vote in favor of an objection.

So....turns out relying on CNN is not so accurate.

Hmm, do you have a link to CNN giving inaccurate information on this? Everything I turn up on cnn.com seems to have the correct information.

[Shasarak]

Everything I turn up on cnn.com seems to have the correct information.

I know, right?

Echo, echo, echo, echo.

[consolcwby]

The Despair is coming...
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Everything I have stated so far has not always gone the way I have liked. But, I have known for decades that the creators of the internet still have access and ownership. Always have! I wanted to bring out the worst and best in order to illustrate a point to them: Just because I wouldn't violate the Sabbath for your servers, does NOT mean I am not an American. Not once have I taken advantage of the situations all have found themselves in. Nor have I profited nor have I benefited. I am as I always have been, as you all have always known: A BIG MOUTH. I will never be silenced, however ~ a plan may work ONLY if one can take it. Have I not taken it? From the guns known, to the weapons which cannot be proven, I have endured. I am loyal. I see the enemy, and they are boiling in that pot! My part is near over, I have unmasked some and ask for mercy for them. Let them know! I have always been honorable, and give thanks for the rest. Do with me as you wish, but I leave those with me in your protection. May my death not be in vain, but for my God and Country! No matter what: WWg1WgA1!
-console cowboy

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THIS WAS ALWAYS GOING TO COME DOWN "TO THE WIRE."
President Trump is going through EVERY SINGLE LEGAL & CONSTITUTIONAL Process available to him in orders of magnitude.
What do I mean by that? His numerous Paths to Victory in the 2020 Election are failing one by one. As each PATHWAY falters or fails Trump moves to another pathway that is less desirable than the previous one. WHY less desirable? Think of these pathways as EARTHQUAKES.
State Courts=3.0 on the Richter Scale to the Nation.
Federal Courts 4.0
SCOTUS=5.0
See where I'm going here?

I'm in the same small Boat with Thomas Wictor, My Brother Brian Cates & a FEW more who are looking at all of the numerous CLUES Trump given to Americans who are PAYING ATTENTION.
Clues that clearly show that not only is he in NO DANGER of losing the Presidency, he's about to absolutely WRECK all of the blatant, HIDEOUSLY ARROGANT & corrupt Domestic Enemies that have, at the same time they appear to be thwarting Trump at every turn are being EXPOSED & SHOWCASED to us to JUSTIFY what he's about to do. Because Trump WARGAMED all this out YEARS AGO. Understand, President Trump is making GOOD FAITH efforts to resolve this STOLEN ELECTION via these paths. But he & his people know how compromised our Institutions & Agencies are. If you grasped the actual level of #RESISTANCE Trump gets from Gov. your jaw would hit your knees.

They have been assessing & compiling EVIDENCE for years. It's why I stated Mike Pompeo & about TEN other people ARE the US State Dept. right now. Why do you think Special Operations was PULLED OUT of the US Military's CHAIN of Command & made practically it's own Department? See the CCP has used the tried & true methods of the ancient CRIME FAMILIES called THE TRIADS to build a GLOBAL NETWORK to spread their control & influence thru corruption (graft & Honeypots) or BLACKMAIL (GOTCHA BITCH!) I now post 4 pictures FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER.

The CCP doesn't have to HANDLE their compromised Operatives directly.
SEE THE NBA.
GET IT?
For the past 20 + years they have been COMPROMISING KEY PEOPLE in our Government & Institutions.
AS Flynn fought that.
A #SilentWAR.
Trump is now fighting back with KEY INDIVIDUALS.

He's SET THE STAGE for everything that's about to happen. I will say this again=Trump's Election Victory should have been declared on Nov. 3rd but the Democrats have gone INSANE.
So now we are being SHOWN the breadth & scope of the SWAMP. Before he SHAKES THE BOX. I listen to EVERYTHING President Trump says DIRECTLY. I do NOT listen to anyone trying to TELL ME what he said or meant. I look at the ACTIONS of certain people in his Orbit like General Flynn, Sidney Powell, etc. & I look for patterns & trends. I ignore the Dog & Pony Show.

Because it's all a distraction. I say again, the Legal effort being made is legit, but failing. Congress is failing. THE GOP IS SCREWING TRUMP (& therefore US yet again) Looks utterly & completely hopeless, right? IT'S ALL FALLING APART! WE'RE DOOMED!
(As long as you GIVE UP)

THIS IS A TEST OF FAITH. A CRUCIBLE.
President Trump APPEARS finished. He LOOKS weak, a goner. HIGH DRAMA, FOLKS. As he separates the Loyal from the disloyal in the GOP. McConnell just blocked the quick vote on the $2,000 Stimulus. #PERFECT! Every Mask is falling away. I am 1,000 per cent confident what will unfold on Jan. 6th will be WORLD SHATTERING. As I've watched President Trump preparing for it for AT LEAST 10 years. (I had to go back & RESEARCH the years prior to 2016) The actual broad strategy to defeat our Domestic Enemies. By Jan. 7th Americans will know the Swamp has been soundly broken & exposed (still dangerous, mind you but incredibly weakened) or the Republic AS FOUNDED will cease to be. Benedict Arnold is trending today because the Arizona GOP did this So the Left IMMEDIATELY likened the image to a portrait of Benedict Arnold, the infamous American Traitor. AS INTENDED. Yes, YES! It IS simply that easy to play the Left. Another INFORMATION WARFARE Gambit pays off.

Because we have over a HUNDRED Benedict Arnolds that are about to be EXPOSED as CCP Operatives. The outing of Swalwell was just a harbinger of what's going to drop once Trump's 2nd term is assured on Jan. 6th. People can't SEE it because they're NOT LOOKING.

from: https://twitter.com/CatesDuane/status/1343966522830688256

[rawma]

Everything I turn up on cnn.com seems to have the correct information.

I know, right?

Echo, echo, echo, echo.

Still waiting for a link. I guess you were just signaling your political affiliation and can't actually find anything to support your claim.

[myleftnut]

REEEEMIX!

[Mistwell]

Exactly 3 weeks to go before this is all finally over except the whining.

[jhkim]

Clues that clearly show that not only is he in NO DANGER of losing the Presidency, he's about to absolutely WRECK all of the blatant, HIDEOUSLY ARROGANT & corrupt Domestic Enemies that have, at the same time they appear to be thwarting Trump at every turn are being EXPOSED & SHOWCASED to us to JUSTIFY what he's about to do. Because Trump WARGAMED all this out YEARS AGO. Understand, President Trump is making GOOD FAITH efforts to resolve this STOLEN ELECTION via these paths. But he & his people know how compromised our Institutions & Agencies are. If you grasped the actual level of #RESISTANCE Trump gets from Gov. your jaw would hit your knees.

President Trump APPEARS finished. He LOOKS weak, a goner. HIGH DRAMA, FOLKS. As he separates the Loyal from the disloyal in the GOP. McConnell just blocked the quick vote on the $2,000 Stimulus. #PERFECT! Every Mask is falling away. I am 1,000 per cent confident what will unfold on Jan. 6th will be WORLD SHATTERING. As I've watched President Trump preparing for it for AT LEAST 10 years. (I had to go back & RESEARCH the years prior to 2016)

OK, consolcwby - so what I would ask is - *if* you turn out to be wrong about this, might that make you think that your sources aren't as reliable as you thought? Or would you just conclude that your sources are still completely reliable and there was no flaw in your thinking?

[HappyDaze]

Clues that clearly show that not only is he in NO DANGER of losing the Presidency, he's about to absolutely WRECK all of the blatant, HIDEOUSLY ARROGANT & corrupt Domestic Enemies that have, at the same time they appear to be thwarting Trump at every turn are being EXPOSED & SHOWCASED to us to JUSTIFY what he's about to do. Because Trump WARGAMED all this out YEARS AGO. Understand, President Trump is making GOOD FAITH efforts to resolve this STOLEN ELECTION via these paths. But he & his people know how compromised our Institutions & Agencies are. If you grasped the actual level of #RESISTANCE Trump gets from Gov. your jaw would hit your knees.

President Trump APPEARS finished. He LOOKS weak, a goner. HIGH DRAMA, FOLKS. As he separates the Loyal from the disloyal in the GOP. McConnell just blocked the quick vote on the $2,000 Stimulus. #PERFECT! Every Mask is falling away. I am 1,000 per cent confident what will unfold on Jan. 6th will be WORLD SHATTERING. As I've watched President Trump preparing for it for AT LEAST 10 years. (I had to go back & RESEARCH the years prior to 2016)

OK, consolcwby - so what I would ask is - *if* you turn out to be wrong about this, might that make you think that your sources aren't as reliable as you thought? Or would you just conclude that your sources are still completely reliable and there was no flaw in your thinking?

He's not about to break character. He's posting crazy shit intentionally to troll the conspiracy theory nutters.

[Mistwell]

He's not about to break character. He's posting crazy shit intentionally to troll the conspiracy theory nutters.

I know it would be easier to think that, but that's not accurate. This really is him. The real him. He's not in character, and he's not trolling.

Which, if that leads you to be concerned for his mental health, you're probably on the right track.

[HappyDaze]

He's not about to break character. He's posting crazy shit intentionally to troll the conspiracy theory nutters.

I know it would be easier to think that, but that's not accurate. This really is him. The real him. He's not in character, and he's not trolling.

Which, if that leads you to be concerned for his mental health, you're probably on the right track.

Citation needed. 

[Shasarak]

Still waiting for a link. I guess you were just signaling your political affiliation and can't actually find anything to support your claim.

Sorry man, I thought you had it bookmarked:

cnn.com

[rawma]

Still waiting for a link. I guess you were just signaling your political affiliation and can't actually find anything to support your claim.

Sorry man, I thought you had it bookmarked:

cnn.com

Where is the error regarding objections in Congress during the electoral vote count? My guess is looking more and more likely to be correct.

[GameDaddy]

Where is the error regarding objections in Congress during the electoral vote count? My guess is looking more and more likely to be correct.

The error is that the Speaker of the House can override any objection, not that she will of course. In the Senate, it is the designated Senate Majority Leader, if however at any time there is a tie in the Senate vote, then the Vice-President gets to vote as the Tie-Breaker. Both the Senate and the House of course, have to ratify the electoral vote count.

Interestingly, on January 5th, the Democrats are looking to flip both Senate seats in Georgia which will effectively give them a tie vote in the Senate, with Vice-President Kamala choosing which way the vote goes after that. She also can step on the Senate majority leader and override any new legislative endeavors too. Right now, Mitch McConnell is the senate majority leader, and you can see how much he enjoys fucking everything up, royally, for most Americans, and will be found otherwise on his knees bobbing for the 1%, and foreign powers, like the turtle he is.

Should be interesting to see how things develop in the coming four years, as democracy is on the rocks, and the Republicans and Democrats both have led us here.