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2020 Election Commentary

Started by deadDMwalking, July 17, 2020, 04:22:33 PM

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Tubesock Army

Quote from: Jaeger on December 23, 2020, 10:21:18 PM
Quote from: myleftnut on December 23, 2020, 06:57:09 PM
QuoteWill it be another kraken?

Sydney Powell says she%u2019s now been banned from the White House. This just keeps getting better. 

Get your fake news straight: %u201C...blocked by the White House counsel and others from seeing or speaking to the president%u201D on one day, by rino defeatist underlings who like to play those kind of games.

Not banned. Nice try word-switch misrepresentation man. One look at her twitter feed and she is still exchanging comments and reply's with the GE...

See, if you are trying to cause the other side to despair; it's much better to drop stuff that's harder to refute:

Creepy Joe Biden Call:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RowdyRep/status/1341499773455622145

Quote from: According to Fake President-Elect:link=topic=42372.msg1157686#msg1157686 date=1608767829
This country is doomed. It's doomed, not just because of African-Americans, but because by 2040, this country is going to be minority white-European. You hear me? And you guys are going to have to start working more with Hispanics. Who make up a larger portion of population than y'all do!


Some are trying to say it's fake, but it's just a natural extension of his previous public statements:




And just so that this never gets memory holed:



How is Creepy Joe Biden's public statement not evidence?

Why should we not take this man at his word?

Why don't you quote the rest of his sentence? Or the rest of the nearly 2-hour Zoom call? Oh, because you're dishonest. Here's the full sentence:

"If we cannot make significant progress on racial equity, this country is doomed."

Here's the full  call.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=4489&v=a3G7n21p0kY

consolcwby

Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 23, 2020, 11:25:53 PM
Fud, lies lies lies, racist comment, lies. Fud fud fud lies lies lies.
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Here's why Joe Biden was Hide - en:
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rawma

Quote from: Shasarak on December 23, 2020, 11:18:20 PM
Its not proving a stolen election.  It is about proving that the election was legitimate.

You are confused; the burden of proof is still with those claiming it is not legitimate.

Quote from: consolcwby on December 23, 2020, 11:19:37 PM
Will Pence Save America?
https://twitter.com/TheRightMelissa/status/1341579724687073280
As President of the Senate, @Mike_Pence has sole power to tell the states he will not accept their electors b/c they vioated the Constittion. At this point the legislatures will either have to select new electors or stand down This will put Dems on defense from now till Jan 6th. He cannot LEGALLY accept fraudelent electors Dec 23rd is his highest call of duty is to defend the Constitution from the States failure to follow it. These States are in breach of contract of the Constitution by allowing Governors to circumvent State legislatures.

This is in error; Pence does not decide if votes are fraudulent. The House and Senate decide if the electoral votes of any state objected to count or not, provided at least one Representative and one Senator sign onto the objection. The default is to accept the slate of electors for each state that met the safe harbor deadline. The House will not agree with any objection to Biden electors unless some actual evidence is produced, which has so far been a complete failure, and that dooms any objection (which probably won't get enough support in the Senate either, as enough Republicans have already dismissed the idea).

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11641

Shasarak

Quote from: rawma on December 23, 2020, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on December 23, 2020, 11:18:20 PM
Its not proving a stolen election.  It is about proving that the election was legitimate.

You are confused; the burden of proof is still with those claiming it is not legitimate.

You dont accept an unverified election because elections are not inherently innocent until proven guilty.

You need to prove that it was both a free and fair election.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

consolcwby

Quote from: Shasarak on December 23, 2020, 11:58:46 PM
Quote from: rawma on December 23, 2020, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on December 23, 2020, 11:18:20 PM
Its not proving a stolen election.  It is about proving that the election was legitimate.

You are confused; the burden of proof is still with those claiming it is not legitimate.

You dont accept an unverified election because elections are not inherently innocent until proven guilty.

You need to prove that it was both a free and fair election.
@Shasarak, don't you understand yet? You could bring forth video where by every single poll worker signs a document stating: "I committed election fraud and I am proud of it!" and he would STILL say: "That's NOT PROOF! I don't see ANY PROOF! Where is THE PROOF??!!" In other words, in his own words: "I have not seen any evidence of voter fraud", means HE HAS NOT SEEN ANY EVIDENCE IN PERSON WITHIN HIS PRESENCE, AND WITHOUT A JUDGE TELLING HIM: "This is the evidence of fraud, my friend."
Learn his patterns: Attempts to sound intelligent because he has very little idea what is really going on. All he knows is HATE, SPITE, LIES, and MURDER! He has yet to PROVE WITH EVIDENCE his side. All burdens are upon his enemies, and he accuses his enemies what he himself does. I believe he is an antisemite. I think he hates SHEM.
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SHARK

Greetings!

In this video, Man In America provides an outstanding analysis of the 2020 Election, and the threat facing America. An excellent video, and an excellent analysis of the situation! WATCH THE VIDEO!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Tubesock Army

Quote from: consolcwby on December 23, 2020, 11:50:20 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 23, 2020, 11:25:53 PM
Fud, lies lies lies, racist comment, lies. Fud fud fud lies lies lies.
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Here's why Joe Biden was Hide - en:


You can call it lies but that doesn't make it so, especially when the video proof of what I said is right there, posted by me. I mean you're basically pointing at white and calling it black. Someone is lying here, and it ain't me.

Also, serious question, when was your diagnosis of mental illness, and what meds do you take?

rawma

Quote from: Shasarak on December 23, 2020, 11:58:46 PM
Quote from: rawma on December 23, 2020, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on December 23, 2020, 11:18:20 PM
Its not proving a stolen election.  It is about proving that the election was legitimate.

You are confused; the burden of proof is still with those claiming it is not legitimate.

You dont accept an unverified election because elections are not inherently innocent until proven guilty.

You need to prove that it was both a free and fair election.

No, claims that it was not a free and fair election likely require a showing by the preponderance of evidence (although assertions of criminality would require proof beyond a reasonable doubt). The Trump campaign and related efforts like the kraken have failed in every legal case (except one - an extended period to cure absentee ballots in Pennsylvania was struck down, but the small number of votes in question were kept separate and never counted). With no evidence, the certified election results will stand per the "safe harbor" provision.
QuoteThe U.S. Code(3 U.S.C. §5)provides that if election results are contested in any state, and if the state, prior to election day,has enacted procedures to settle controversies or contests over electors and electoral votes, and if these procedures have been applied, and the results have been determined six days before the electors' meetings, then these results are considered to be conclusive, and will apply in the counting of the electoral votes.

Produce your evidence! I'll let jhkim debunk it! ;D

HappyDaze

Every time I think of the kraken, I just think about those old maps with "Here Be Monsters" scribbled on the margins with little drawings of fictitious beasts. I figure the court papers that were filed about the "fraud" were much the same.

Mistwell

Quote from: consolcwby on December 23, 2020, 11:19:37 PM
No Evidence Of FRAUD, say those who want to create a new AUSCHWITZ IN AMERICA!

Nope nope nope. Line crossed. You do not get to use the history of my families pain and death in your stupid political ranting bullshit. I mean you have the free speech right but you don't have the right to be consequence free from that fucking bullshit antic.

No, there are no concentration camps. No, nothing going on in America is comparable to Auschwitz, and nothing anyone wants to "create" is either. Yes, you're a complete fucking creepy asshole for claiming there is or plans to be. No, there is no defense other than 'I am sorry you're right I went to far on that one' for that comment.

Mistwell

Quote from: consolcwby on December 24, 2020, 12:20:32 AM
Quote from: Shasarak on December 23, 2020, 11:58:46 PM
Quote from: rawma on December 23, 2020, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on December 23, 2020, 11:18:20 PM
Its not proving a stolen election.  It is about proving that the election was legitimate.

You are confused; the burden of proof is still with those claiming it is not legitimate.

You dont accept an unverified election because elections are not inherently innocent until proven guilty.

You need to prove that it was both a free and fair election.
@Shasarak, don't you understand yet? You could bring forth video where by every single poll worker signs a document stating: "I committed election fraud and I am proud of it!" and he would STILL say: "That's NOT PROOF! I don't see ANY PROOF! Where is THE PROOF??!!" In other words, in his own words: "I have not seen any evidence of voter fraud", means HE HAS NOT SEEN ANY EVIDENCE IN PERSON WITHIN HIS PRESENCE, AND WITHOUT A JUDGE TELLING HIM: "This is the evidence of fraud, my friend."
Learn his patterns: Attempts to sound intelligent because he has very little idea what is really going on. All he knows is HATE, SPITE, LIES, and MURDER! He has yet to PROVE WITH EVIDENCE his side. All burdens are upon his enemies, and he accuses his enemies what he himself does. I believe he is an antisemite. I think he hates SHEM.

Because we have an objective system to determine what rises to proof of a crime in this nation, and we call them courts. Not Youtube videos, not extreme biased Internet media, not social media, they're called courts.

HappyDaze

Quote from: Mistwell on December 24, 2020, 02:37:32 PM
Quote from: consolcwby on December 23, 2020, 11:19:37 PM
No Evidence Of FRAUD, say those who want to create a new AUSCHWITZ IN AMERICA!

Nope nope nope. Line crossed. You do not get to use the history of my families pain and death in your stupid political ranting bullshit. I mean you have the free speech right but you don't have the right to be consequence free from that fucking bullshit antic.

No, there are no concentration camps. No, nothing going on in America is comparable to Auschwitz, and nothing anyone wants to "create" is either. Yes, you're a complete fucking creepy asshole for claiming there is or plans to be. No, there is no defense other than 'I am sorry you're right I went to far on that one' for that comment.
You're letting the troll score points.

Mistwell

Quote from: HappyDaze on December 24, 2020, 03:03:31 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 24, 2020, 02:37:32 PM
Quote from: consolcwby on December 23, 2020, 11:19:37 PM
No Evidence Of FRAUD, say those who want to create a new AUSCHWITZ IN AMERICA!

Nope nope nope. Line crossed. You do not get to use the history of my families pain and death in your stupid political ranting bullshit. I mean you have the free speech right but you don't have the right to be consequence free from that fucking bullshit antic.

No, there are no concentration camps. No, nothing going on in America is comparable to Auschwitz, and nothing anyone wants to "create" is either. Yes, you're a complete fucking creepy asshole for claiming there is or plans to be. No, there is no defense other than 'I am sorry you're right I went to far on that one' for that comment.
You're letting the troll score points.

You might not be the best person here to be complaining about letting trolls score points.

HappyDaze

Quote from: Mistwell on December 24, 2020, 03:36:07 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 24, 2020, 03:03:31 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 24, 2020, 02:37:32 PM
Quote from: consolcwby on December 23, 2020, 11:19:37 PM
No Evidence Of FRAUD, say those who want to create a new AUSCHWITZ IN AMERICA!

Nope nope nope. Line crossed. You do not get to use the history of my families pain and death in your stupid political ranting bullshit. I mean you have the free speech right but you don't have the right to be consequence free from that fucking bullshit antic.

No, there are no concentration camps. No, nothing going on in America is comparable to Auschwitz, and nothing anyone wants to "create" is either. Yes, you're a complete fucking creepy asshole for claiming there is or plans to be. No, there is no defense other than 'I am sorry you're right I went to far on that one' for that comment.
You're letting the troll score points.

You might not be the best person here to be complaining about letting trolls score points.
Perhaps,  perhaps not. I don't take anyone here seriously these days.

VisionStorm

Quote from: Mistwell on December 24, 2020, 02:39:12 PM>we have an objective system to determine what rises to proof of a crime
>they're called courts.



Dude, there have been innocent men sent to DEATH Row by US courts and later found innocent. Multiple times.

And that's when courts actually look at the evidence and don't dismiss it on procedural grounds.

THAT's how effective the US court system is at "objectively" determining WTF "proof" is.