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2020 Election Commentary

Started by deadDMwalking, July 17, 2020, 04:22:33 PM

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HappyDaze

Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 22, 2020, 08:15:13 AM
Quote from: jeff37923 on December 21, 2020, 09:46:50 PM
Think of it as Evolution in Action.
Oath of Fealty, by Niven and Pournelle.

Honestly, myleftderp reminds me of the retard I had lecturing me last night on how labor has value. I tried to point out that labor itself has no intrinsic value and that the value generated was based on the results. I was then challenged to 'run a labor free business'.

Economics is hard, I guess.
This comes back to "we don't pay you for effort, we pay you for outcomes." Oddly though, even if you can produce the same outcomes as another employee while working half the time, they want you to put in more effort (the rest of that time) without paying you more for exceeding the outcomes of the other...

Tubesock Army

Newsmax has followed Fox News in retracting its claims about Smartmatic voting machines. I'm starting to sense a pattern here.

Trond

Quote from: rawma on December 22, 2020, 12:40:07 AM

I was just rebutting the claim that nobody would be that stupid. The media did not introduce internal use of disinfectants (or hydroxychloroquine) to the discourse. Even if nobody did this exceptionally stupid thing, reporting it served to underline that information from the President was not reliable, and ignoring Trump's advice on shutdowns and masks and social distancing was probably lifesaving for many people.

The media (and manufacturers of disinfectants) went to great lengths to inform the public that this was bad. The people who were stupid enough to do this anyway probably trusted Donald Trump far more than they trusted the media, and the media deciding which of the President's statements at his press conferences should be reported or not is likely worse (and wouldn't have worked anyway in the age of social media). If you want to blame the media, then you're obliged to say what they should have done instead.
Telling the truth goes a long way, they could have just quoted him without trying to read everything in the worst possible way.

Your naive belief that the mass media never misrepresent anything is just super adorable.


See what I did there?  ;)

Shasarak

Quote from: rawma on December 22, 2020, 12:40:07 AM
I was just rebutting the claim that nobody would be that stupid.

The amazing thing about the internet is that as soon as you say there is no one that stupid, you find stupid people falling over themselves to try and prove you wrong.

Even for scams like drinking bleach.

Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Shasarak

Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 22, 2020, 10:30:16 AM
Newsmax has followed Fox News in retracting its claims about Smartmatic voting machines. I'm starting to sense a pattern here.

Yeah, I told you.  Voting machines were a big nothing burger.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Tubesock Army

#2270
A high-level employee of Dominion just sued the Trump campaign. Hilarity will ensue.

Shasarak

Oh no, Trump being sued.

That is something that has never happened to him before.   8)
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Mistwell

Trump just issued a bunch of pardons. Which is fine, and what Presidents do when they know they are about to leave office.

Mistwell

#2273
Oh look, U.S. Trade Deficit the worst since 2008 recession. And it was diving already before Covid.

For those playing at home, one of Trumps major issues when he ran was our bad trade deficit. Which he promised to drastically improve.

Who could have predicted Trump's trade policies would backfire and be even worse than before? Oh right, me. And everyone who has experience in trade and could see his policies would not increase our manufacturing but would instead decrease U.S. sales of goods overseas.

Catulle

Quote from: Mistwell on December 22, 2020, 08:27:37 PM
Trump just issued a bunch of pardons. Which is fine, and what Presidents do when they know they are about to leave office.

Those poor, persecuted murder-y mercenaries. How dare anyone hold them to account, however briefly?

rawma

#2275
Quote from: consolcwby on December 22, 2020, 12:51:50 AM
Quote from: rawma on December 22, 2020, 12:40:07 AM
I was just rebutting the claim that nobody would be that stupid. The media did not introduce internal use of disinfectants (or hydroxychloroquine) to the discourse. Even if nobody did this exceptionally stupid thing, reporting it served to underline that information from the President was not reliable, and ignoring Trump's advice on shutdowns and masks and social distancing was probably lifesaving for many people.

The media (and manufacturers of disinfectants) went to great lengths to inform the public that this was bad.
I watched the speech he gave on this. He started by stating that the FAKE NEWS would accuse him of stating this. Then - within the editing room snip snip - he suddenly SAID IT. AMAZING!

You can read the transcript or watch the video (talking starts at a little after 2:52:00; Bill Bryan mentions the rate at which bleach and isopropyl alcohol kills the virus, and Trump follows on that with the comments in question around 3:19:00. He only mentions "fake news" later, in reference to other questions, and declared his stupider remarks sarcastic the next day, his typical dodge when he discovers he's said something stupid or criminal.

Point out from either what you claimed about his reference to the fake news and what context you think was omitted.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/24/politics/fact-check-trump-disinfectant-sarcastic/index.html

QuoteI also find it amazing how much you wish to MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE! WHY? Does it make you feel like a GOD? Why? Why do you want to murder children who never did anything to you??
How does it feel to be THAT kind of person? Hm?

What in the name of everything holy are you talking about? Provide a link to whatever I've posted that prompted you to say this.

consolcwby

I was tired today, gotta get my ass in gear tomorrow!
The Don just announced his admin. picks!
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/president-donald-j-trump-announces-intent-appoint-individuals-key-administration-posts-122220/
Today, President Donald J. Trump announced his intent to appoint the following individuals to key positions in his Administration:
Pam Bondi, of Florida, to be a Member of the Board of Trustees of the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.
Edward McMullen, Jr., of South Carolina, to be a Member of the Board of Trustees of the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.
Paolo Zampolli, of New York, to be a Member of the Board of Trustees of the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.
Hope Charlotte Hicks, of Connecticut, to be a Member of the J. William Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board.
Derek S. Lyons, of Texas, to be a Member of the J. William Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board.
Amy Hanson Swonger, of North Carolina, to be a Member of the J. William Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board

Arizona's electors want an audit...
https://twitter.com/AZGOP/status/1341177821520162816
So lets think about this, there are subpoenas issued to Maricopa to look at the dominion machines but they are not allowing this to happen, what are they hiding??

http://conservativeactionproject.com/conservatives-call-on-state-legislators-to-appoint-new-electors-in-accordance-with-the-constitution/
The evidence overwhelmingly shows officials in key battleground states—as the result of a coordinated pressure campaign by Democrats and allied groups—violated the Constitution, state and federal law in changing mail-in voting rules that resulted in unlawful and invalid certifications of Biden victories. There is no doubt President Donald J. Trump is the lawful winner of the presidential election. Joe Biden is not president-elect. Accordingly, state legislatures in the battleground states of Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Michigan should exercise their plenary power under the Constitution and appoint clean slates of electors to the Electoral College to support President Trump. Similarly, both the House and Senate should accept only these clean Electoral College slates and object to and reject any competing slates in favor of Vice President Biden from these states. Conservative leaders and groups should begin mobilizing immediately to contact their state legislators, as well as their representatives in the House and Senate, to demand that clean slates of electors be appointed in the manner laid out in the U.S. Constitution.

There was a meeting with Flynn, Sidney Powell, Patrick Byrne, and others in the white house:
https://twitter.com/Rothbard1776/status/1341165020776984577
https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/1341364461102379008
https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1341326729143406593
My take:
The swamp is deep and wide, and ONLY in 2020 can those with eyes on the details CAN SEE the SEDITION AND TREASON by the so-called "Friends" of The President!  Those who want the election to JUST END AND GET ON WITH THINGS do not have our country's best interest at heart. Instead, threats - lies - murders - of normal everyday people who don't agree with the left MUST HAVE THIS ELECTION DONE HONESTLY TO SURVIVE AND THRIVE!

It amazes me how much some of you WANT to KILL, RAPE,  MURDER, DESTROY, AND BLAME EVERYONE but YOURSELF!
The demonization of TRUE AMERICANS MUST STOP HERE, REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU VOTED!
Too bad that some members of this thread want these people ROUNDED UP AND MURDERED!
MERRY FUCKING CHRISTMAS INDEED!
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rawma

Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 22, 2020, 10:30:16 AM
Newsmax has followed Fox News in retracting its claims about Smartmatic voting machines. I'm starting to sense a pattern here.

Sebastian Gorka on Newsmax cut off the MyPillow guy when he started in on Dominion voting machines. Definite fear of lawsuits.

rawma

Quote from: Trond on December 22, 2020, 11:31:44 AM
Telling the truth goes a long way, they could have just quoted him without trying to read everything in the worst possible way.

I realize Republicans like it best when reporters are simply stenographers. But to a large extent they were just reporting on the horrified reactions of doctors and companies that made disinfectants.

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Your naive belief that the mass media never misrepresent anything is just super adorable.

That would be bad if I had ever said anything of the sort; you have mistaken me for the strawman in your head. But pointing out your ignorance of PhDs really, really embarrassed you, huh?

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See what I did there?  ;)

Yes, embarrassed yourself some more. LOL.

rawma