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2020 Election Commentary

Started by deadDMwalking, July 17, 2020, 04:22:33 PM

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Spike

Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 19, 2020, 06:13:19 PM


I'm also a full-time caregiver for an elderly family member who is incapable of caring for themselves. That's a large part of why I get upset at this administration's callousness and bungling with regard to Covid-19.

I too am a Ninja.
For you the day you found a minor error in a Post by Spike and forced him to admit it, it was the greatest day of your internet life.  For me it was... Tuesday.

For the curious: Apparently, in person, I sound exactly like the Youtube Character The Nostalgia Critic.   I have no words.

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Mistwell

Quote from: SHARK on December 19, 2020, 05:02:31 AM
Greetings!

Well, when I was growing up in school, we also were united in saying the Pledge of Allegiance, every day. Everyone I knew was patriotic and loved America. It certainly isn't "idealizing an America that never existed". Most people that "protested" against America were viewed as drug-hopped hippies, Leftist pacifists, and Marxist traitors.

All this time I assumed you were around my age. But damn dude, how old are you? You gotta be what, mid 60s?

jhkim

Quote from: SHARK on December 19, 2020, 05:02:31 AM
Merely "Disagreeing" and "Criticizing" America is fine and dandy--but what is the merit of such? Much of the "critique" and "disagreement" that is celebrated by the Left is promoted and pushed by traitors, Marxist demagogues, and others seeking to spread disunity, rebellion, and hatred, then it certainly is not a good thing at all.

But there is also critique and disagreement celebrated by the Right -- particularly now, as they push to *not* be united behind Joe Biden, and are actively promoting resistance to his taking office. That is *not* joining in unity, and it is rebellion against government control, and it is motivated by hatred of leftist Marxist scum. That's disunity, rebellion, and hatred as you said. Whether someone thinks that's a good thing or not depends on who they are rebelling against and hating.

I didn't bow down and unify with Trump, and I don't expect you to bow down and unify against Biden. At best, we can find some intersection of points we agree on - and pursue those - but we're always going to have significant disagreements.

VisionStorm

Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 19, 2020, 06:13:19 PMNice try, but I voted for the party that DIDN'T think it was OK for the elderly to die so that people could keep eating at Old Town Buffet.

No, you just voted for the party that thought it was OK with nominating a senile war criminal who could barely speak and was complicit in the destruction of several Middle Eastern countries, including Libya, where they have slave markets now, along with a VP who locked people up for petty offences, kept people in prison beyond their time to benefit from their slave labor, and tried to keep an innocent man in DEATH ROW from getting the evidence necessary to exonerate himself. And whose speaker of the house blocked a stimulus check for out of work families in the middle of a "pandemic" as a campaign strategy to get those other two monsters elected (she's a fucking monster as well).

Meanwhile you're whining here that Trump didn't violate state rights to FORCE every state in the union to do... IDK WTF what... or personally visit all 330+ MILLION US citizens spread throughout every state and US territory to make sure they were following lockdown protocols.

So stop trying to take the moral high ground, idiot.

SHARK

Quote from: Mistwell on December 19, 2020, 06:22:24 PM
Quote from: SHARK on December 19, 2020, 05:02:31 AM
Greetings!

Well, when I was growing up in school, we also were united in saying the Pledge of Allegiance, every day. Everyone I knew was patriotic and loved America. It certainly isn't "idealizing an America that never existed". Most people that "protested" against America were viewed as drug-hopped hippies, Leftist pacifists, and Marxist traitors.

All this time I assumed you were around my age. But damn dude, how old are you? You gotta be what, mid 60s?

Greetings!

*Laughing* No, I'm not in my mid 60's! I grew up in an area that was very conservative--and very determined to *not* become like San Francisco or Los Angeles. Our city council for example was decidedly committed to *limited growth* for many years. Everyone I grew up with were Conservative, patriotic, veterans, hard working, and supportive of law enforcement and traditional world views, and Christians. People loved America, loved our flag, loved our Constitution, and the Bible. And guns, too!

"Protesters" were seen by virtually everyone as being rabble-rousers, rebels, druggy hippies, and generally as Marxist traitors. My friends, their fathers and mothers, their grandparents, aunts and uncles, and so on, far from celebrating protesting and disagreement and critique, generally took a dim view of such attitudes and behavior.

I also remember well how all of my teachers in school were also Conservative, patriotic, and traditional in their attitudes and world view. It is typical nowadays for teachers to be radical "progressives" now, but in my area, they were all conservative, married, and traditional. They were always encouraging people to be patriotic, disciplined, and law-abiding.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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jeff37923

Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 19, 2020, 06:13:19 PM
Nice try, but I voted for the party that DIDN'T think it was OK for the elderly to die so that people could keep eating at Old Town Buffet. I'm also a full-time caregiver for an elderly family member who is incapable of caring for themselves. That's a large part of why I get upset at this administration's callousness and bungling with regard to Covid-19.

Really? I haven't seen you even mention Cuomo (NY), Newsom (CA), Murphy (NJ), Whitmer (MI), and Wolf (PA) because they are the ones who moved COVID-19 patients into Nursing Homes.

Then again, they are all leftist democrats, so why would you complain about their shitty leadership? It would undermine your holy narrative.
"Meh."

Tubesock Army

Quote from: jeff37923 on December 19, 2020, 07:25:28 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 19, 2020, 06:13:19 PM
Nice try, but I voted for the party that DIDN'T think it was OK for the elderly to die so that people could keep eating at Old Town Buffet. I'm also a full-time caregiver for an elderly family member who is incapable of caring for themselves. That's a large part of why I get upset at this administration's callousness and bungling with regard to Covid-19.

Really? I haven't seen you even mention Cuomo (NY), Newsom (CA), Murphy (NJ), Whitmer (MI), and Wolf (PA) because they are the ones who moved COVID-19 patients into Nursing Homes.

Then again, they are all leftist democrats, so why would you complain about their shitty leadership? It would undermine your holy narrative.

It was obviously a horrible idea to move Covid patients to nursing homes. Not even debatable.

However, none of that changes the fact that Trump fucked this up so badly that hospitals were/are overflowing. I am in no way justifying the decisions of any state governments who made such a dangerous and foolish decision. But, had Covid been handled competently in the first place, or would have been a moot point.

Tubesock Army

Quote from: Spike on December 19, 2020, 06:14:31 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 19, 2020, 06:13:19 PM


I'm also a full-time caregiver for an elderly family member who is incapable of caring for themselves. That's a large part of why I get upset at this administration's callousness and bungling with regard to Covid-19.

I too am a Ninja.

The fact that you find familial responsibility so unbelievable says more about you than it does about me.

consolcwby

You, know, I sometimes just want to rant and make an ass of myself. That's why I watch yooboob! People seem to do it for me. I don't always agree with them, but sometimes I find a GEM! Here is someone who rants, raves, and rocks. He's gonna talk about the SUPREME COURT and how it's FUCKING THIS ELECTION UP:


And to @SHARK and others who find my posts useful: Thank you! I have been waiting to speak about all this for nearly a decade, and sometime I will tell you all my story. Until then, buckle-up! It's gonna be a bumpy ride to AMERICA'S VICTORY!

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Spike

Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 19, 2020, 08:45:48 PM

The fact that you find familial responsibility so unbelievable says more about you than it does about me.

The fact that you think your care for an elderly family member means more than bupkiss in a political debate says more about you than it does about me.

True or not.










Though, the fact that you thought I meant anything other than "I am a Ninja" when I said "I am a Ninja" is remarkable. Dude, that was the secret handshake. You were supposed to respond by dislocating your left anterior crucial ligament, spinning widdershins and barking like a dog.  smh.
For you the day you found a minor error in a Post by Spike and forced him to admit it, it was the greatest day of your internet life.  For me it was... Tuesday.

For the curious: Apparently, in person, I sound exactly like the Youtube Character The Nostalgia Critic.   I have no words.

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consolcwby

*Waiting on @Tubesock to accuse @Spike of cultural appropriation...*
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SHARK

Greetings!

Be Like Water provides a brief interview with MAGA HULK, in Southern California.

MAGA HULK is a very cool dude, and an awesome American!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 19, 2020, 08:44:55 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on December 19, 2020, 07:25:28 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 19, 2020, 06:13:19 PM
Nice try, but I voted for the party that DIDN'T think it was OK for the elderly to die so that people could keep eating at Old Town Buffet. I'm also a full-time caregiver for an elderly family member who is incapable of caring for themselves. That's a large part of why I get upset at this administration's callousness and bungling with regard to Covid-19.

Really? I haven't seen you even mention Cuomo (NY), Newsom (CA), Murphy (NJ), Whitmer (MI), and Wolf (PA) because they are the ones who moved COVID-19 patients into Nursing Homes.

Then again, they are all leftist democrats, so why would you complain about their shitty leadership? It would undermine your holy narrative.

It was obviously a horrible idea to move Covid patients to nursing homes. Not even debatable.

However, none of that changes the fact that Trump fucked this up so badly that hospitals were/are overflowing. I am in no way justifying the decisions of any state governments who made such a dangerous and foolish decision. But, had Covid been handled competently in the first place, or would have been a moot point.

What do you think Trump and the rest of the Federal government should have done differently?
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Tubesock Army

Quote from: Spike on December 19, 2020, 11:31:01 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 19, 2020, 08:45:48 PM

The fact that you find familial responsibility so unbelievable says more about you than it does about me.

The fact that you think your care for an elderly family member means more than bupkiss in a political debate says more about you than it does about me.



At that point, it was no longer a political debate. I was being accused of being a murderer and of not viewing the elderly as human beings by someone who has never met me.

In other news, wack job Lou Dobbs had to walk back his shit-talking of Smartmatic votingg machines. Seems the mere threat of a lawsuit from the company was enough to get him to debunk HIMSELF on national TV. Fucking lol.

Tubesock Army

Quote from: Ratman_tf on December 20, 2020, 01:13:47 AM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 19, 2020, 08:44:55 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on December 19, 2020, 07:25:28 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on December 19, 2020, 06:13:19 PM
Nice try, but I voted for the party that DIDN'T think it was OK for the elderly to die so that people could keep eating at Old Town Buffet. I'm also a full-time caregiver for an elderly family member who is incapable of caring for themselves. That's a large part of why I get upset at this administration's callousness and bungling with regard to Covid-19.

Really? I haven't seen you even mention Cuomo (NY), Newsom (CA), Murphy (NJ), Whitmer (MI), and Wolf (PA) because they are the ones who moved COVID-19 patients into Nursing Homes.

Then again, they are all leftist democrats, so why would you complain about their shitty leadership? It would undermine your holy narrative.

It was obviously a horrible idea to move Covid patients to nursing homes. Not even debatable.

However, none of that changes the fact that Trump fucked this up so badly that hospitals were/are overflowing. I am in no way justifying the decisions of any state governments who made such a dangerous and foolish decision. But, had Covid been handled competently in the first place, or would have been a moot point.

What do you think Trump and the rest of the Federal government should have done differently?

Not fired the Pandemic response team?

Used the playbook left by the Obama administration?

Not left PPE distribution up to Jared and his frat buddies?

Not downplayed the severity and danger of the virus?

Encouraged people to behave safely and responsibly?

For starters.