2020 Election Commentary

[Trond]

Couldn't back up your position, huh?

You can just google it, it's known by virtually everyone.

You still can't post one single link to support your position, though. Just trash talking the New York Times.

Why would I? You already found the links if you looked up the political stance of NYT. Honestly, I wasn't going to say any of this, but you stooped to calling people names and such so here you go; you would probably do one of the following:
1. pretend it doesn't fit your definitions, moving the goalposts while claiming it's everyone else moving goalposts
2. hammer this forum with more posts, apparently to "get back" at the people here for being meanies
3. freak out when you can't handle it, and start sending me bizarre PMs like you did before
Frankly, I think you're a bit mentally unstable. I think you'd be better off taking a break from all the forums. I often do. Your party won. Celebrate.

[SHARK]

Couldn't back up your position, huh?

You can just google it, it's known by virtually everyone.

You still can't post one single link to support your position, though. Just trash talking the New York Times.

Why would I? You already found the links if you looked up the political stance of NYT. Honestly, I wasn't going to say any of this, but you stooped to calling people names and such so here you go; you would probably do one of the following:
1. pretend it doesn't fit your definitions, moving the goalposts while claiming it's everyone else moving goalposts
2. hammer this forum with more posts, apparently to "get back" at the people here for being meanies
3. freak out when you can't handle it, and start sending me bizarre PMs like you did before
Frankly, I think you're a bit mentally unstable. I think you'd be better off taking a break from all the forums. I often do. Your party won. Celebrate.

Greetings!

Being mentally unstable and emotionally fragile seem to be characteristics strongly embedded with Leftists. Leftists are often plagued with depression, autism, bipolarism, schizophrenia, paranoia, delusions, and oppression complexes--in addition to narcissism, and a worldview that is essentially petulant and juvenile.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Trond]

Greetings!

Being mentally unstable and emotionally fragile seem to be characteristics strongly embedded with Leftists. Leftists are often plagued with depression, autism, bipolarism, schizophrenia, paranoia, delusions, and oppression complexes--in addition to narcissism, and a worldview that is essentially petulant and juvenile.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

This could also be part of it in many cases:
https://www.psypost.org/2020/12/researchers-identify-a-new-personality-construct-that-describes-the-tendency-to-see-oneself-as-a-victim-58753?fbclid=IwAR3cTcwg7XDY7Om82dP2qjGSkuLdrES4fdC-48oXJB86HueAqH5tZgQ-wnc

[consolcwby]

The Party of PEACE AND PROGRESS is at it again:
https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1339000780314062848
Holding up relief because... republicans. Riiiight. Sounds like something some of you would support: "Americans are suffering? Just let them dieeee!"

A pretty valid question: The MSM, Mitch McConnell and many others have called the election for JB and KH, If the election is a done deal, why hasn't Kamala Harris given up her seat in the Senate? Does she know something we don't know??

There's something funny about Mitch though: https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1339207261952954369
BWAHAHAHAHAH! GOTCHA BASTARD! https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2018/03/20/schweizer-mcconnells-family-fortune-dependent-chinese-governments-good-graces/
In a nutshell:
So Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, his wife Elaine Chao, who's the transportation secretary in the Trump administration, her family has deep economic and financial ties to the Chinese government itself," said Schweizer. "They are in the shipping business, and they own something called the Foremost Group, and really, in 1993, Mitch McConnell, as a senator, travels to China with his father-in-law, James Chao, as guests of the China State Shipbuilding Corporation."
"The China State Shipbuilding Corporation is the largest defense contractor in China,
"McConnell himself has benefited because a few years ago, James Chao gave Mitch McConnell a gift between five and twenty-five million dollars that more than quadrupled his net worth overnight,this is not just about Elaine Chao's family getting wealthy. That wealth has now trickled into Mitch McConnell's pocket, as well, and it's a huge problem because if you chart the positions that Sen. McConnell has taken on China over the last twenty years, guess what? Shock of all shocks, he has become increasingly soft as it relates to China.

Changing ballots for people too stupid to vote for JB/KH IS NO LONGER to be called FRAUD. From now on it shall be called VOTER INTENT!
https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1338977383202783232

A little known thing about what's going on right now:
The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors were served these subpoenas on Tuesday afternoon, and they call for the information to be delivered to the Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman on or before 5 p.m. on December 18, 2020.

Good thing FACEBOOK is on the up-and-up... oh, wait-
https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/zuckerberg-clawback-provision/
In a nutshellL:
The Amistad Project, an election integrity watchdog group, highlighted in its recent press conference how Mark Zuckerberg placed constraints on the nearly half-billion dollars he funneled into the 2020 elections, including the ability to rescind donations if counties didn't meet all of his demands.
The revelation adds to growing suspicions over Zuckerberg's meddling in the 2020 election, including leveraging nearly all of his money to exclusively boost Democrat turnout.
Amistad Director Phill Klein explained in the group's December 16th press conference how the Center for Technology and Civic Life (CTCL), which received nearly $400 million from Zuckerberg, included stipulations in its contracts with state officials and legislatures that they could demand their millions back if their request were not adhered to:
A clawback agreement in every contract that CTCL did with Mark Zuckerberg money that says if you do not follow our plan, we're going to take back our money. All of it.
In short, "you have to do what we say," according to Klein.
A fellow Amistad Project lawyer noted they found "clawback provisions in the CTCL contracts that were executed with local governments, local electoral officials" that "had within them specific language that said the electoral officials must spend the money on specific things."
"Dropboxes, satellite voting, there was a whole host of things that were stipulations in the clawback agreements. And so what we have here is a private agency giving money to a local elected official and entering into a contract requiring these local precincts and electoral officials to do specific things," he added.
"The claw back language in the CTCL agreements represents a longterm, contingent liability for counties and municipalities who received the CTCL grants. These liabilities pose long-term audit, bonding, or pension risks to those counties who received CTCL grants," the Amistad Project's official report notes.
EDIT: See it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8a3h69wLfU

fnord.

[deathknight4044]

Yup

[Catulle]

Couldn't back up your position, huh?

You can just google it, it's known by virtually everyone.

You still can't post one single link to support your position, though. Just trash talking the New York Times.

Why would I? You already found the links if you looked up the political stance of NYT. Honestly, I wasn't going to say any of this, but you stooped to calling people names and such so here you go; you would probably do one of the following:
1. pretend it doesn't fit your definitions, moving the goalposts while claiming it's everyone else moving goalposts
2. hammer this forum with more posts, apparently to "get back" at the people here for being meanies
3. freak out when you can't handle it, and start sending me bizarre PMs like you did before
Frankly, I think you're a bit mentally unstable. I think you'd be better off taking a break from all the forums. I often do. Your party won. Celebrate.

Greetings!

Being mentally unstable and emotionally fragile seem to be characteristics strongly embedded with Leftists. Leftists are often plagued with depression, autism, bipolarism, schizophrenia, paranoia, delusions, and oppression complexes--in addition to narcissism, and a worldview that is essentially petulant and juvenile.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

The President's a leftist now?

[VisionStorm]

Oh, noes! It turns out the DNC cheated Bernie again! What an incredible development! WHO COULD'VE FORSEEN THIS?!?

PS: Democrats would NEVER cheat on the general elections, though. That's just a Republican conspiracy theory, amirite? 

[Tubesock Army]

The Party of PEACE AND PROGRESS is at it again:
https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1339000780314062848
Holding up relief because... republicans. Riiiight. Sounds like something some of you would support: "Americans are suffering? Just let them dieeee!"

A pretty valid question: The MSM, Mitch McConnell and many others have called the election for JB and KH, If the election is a done deal, why hasn't Kamala Harris given up her seat in the Senate? Does she know something we don't know??

There's something funny about Mitch though: https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1339207261952954369
BWAHAHAHAHAH! GOTCHA BASTARD! https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2018/03/20/schweizer-mcconnells-family-fortune-dependent-chinese-governments-good-graces/
In a nutshell:
So Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, his wife Elaine Chao, who's the transportation secretary in the Trump administration, her family has deep economic and financial ties to the Chinese government itself," said Schweizer. "They are in the shipping business, and they own something called the Foremost Group, and really, in 1993, Mitch McConnell, as a senator, travels to China with his father-in-law, James Chao, as guests of the China State Shipbuilding Corporation."
"The China State Shipbuilding Corporation is the largest defense contractor in China,
"McConnell himself has benefited because a few years ago, James Chao gave Mitch McConnell a gift between five and twenty-five million dollars that more than quadrupled his net worth overnight,this is not just about Elaine Chao's family getting wealthy. That wealth has now trickled into Mitch McConnell's pocket, as well, and it's a huge problem because if you chart the positions that Sen. McConnell has taken on China over the last twenty years, guess what? Shock of all shocks, he has become increasingly soft as it relates to China.

Changing ballots for people too stupid to vote for JB/KH IS NO LONGER to be called FRAUD. From now on it shall be called VOTER INTENT!
https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1338977383202783232

A little known thing about what's going on right now:
The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors were served these subpoenas on Tuesday afternoon, and they call for the information to be delivered to the Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman on or before 5 p.m. on December 18, 2020.

Good thing FACEBOOK is on the up-and-up... oh, wait-
https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/zuckerberg-clawback-provision/
In a nutshellL:
The Amistad Project, an election integrity watchdog group, highlighted in its recent press conference how Mark Zuckerberg placed constraints on the nearly half-billion dollars he funneled into the 2020 elections, including the ability to rescind donations if counties didn't meet all of his demands.
The revelation adds to growing suspicions over Zuckerberg's meddling in the 2020 election, including leveraging nearly all of his money to exclusively boost Democrat turnout.
Amistad Director Phill Klein explained in the group's December 16th press conference how the Center for Technology and Civic Life (CTCL), which received nearly $400 million from Zuckerberg, included stipulations in its contracts with state officials and legislatures that they could demand their millions back if their request were not adhered to:
A clawback agreement in every contract that CTCL did with Mark Zuckerberg money that says if you do not follow our plan, we're going to take back our money. All of it.
In short, "you have to do what we say," according to Klein.
A fellow Amistad Project lawyer noted they found "clawback provisions in the CTCL contracts that were executed with local governments, local electoral officials" that "had within them specific language that said the electoral officials must spend the money on specific things."
"Dropboxes, satellite voting, there was a whole host of things that were stipulations in the clawback agreements. And so what we have here is a private agency giving money to a local elected official and entering into a contract requiring these local precincts and electoral officials to do specific things," he added.
"The claw back language in the CTCL agreements represents a longterm, contingent liability for counties and municipalities who received the CTCL grants. These liabilities pose long-term audit, bonding, or pension risks to those counties who received CTCL grants," the Amistad Project's official report notes.
EDIT: See it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8a3h69wLfU

fnord.

Some of us knew McConnell was compromised a long time ago, and didn't need to wait to be told by Trump that it was OK to say so. You're late to the party, bud.

[jhkim]

Oh, noes! It turns out the DNC cheated Bernie again! What an incredible development! WHO COULD'VE FORSEEN THIS?!?

PS: Democrats would NEVER cheat on the general elections, though. That's just a Republican conspiracy theory, amirite? 

The problem here is your insistence on blind faith. Personally, I don't implicitly trust any of the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, Trump, or Biden. When I try to find out what any of them actually did, what I look for is evidence.

The way you frame it, either "Democrats would NEVER cheat on the general elections" or "the general elections were completely rigged and stolen by Democrats".

The reason I don't believe most conspiracy theories isn't that I think authorities are pure and good. It's that I don't think they are ultra-competent masterminds. If something requires dozens of people all knowingly complicit in a criminal conspiracy, it's incredibly difficult to pull off without one of the insiders screwing up and/or turning on the others. If a plan just requires a handful of people who know -- like an assassination with just two or three gunmen -- then it becomes more possible, at least, though not necessarily true.


In the 2020 general elections, the claims require that not just dozens to hundreds of Democrats - but also dozens of top-ranking Republicans as well as dozens of court judges all have to be in on the conspiracy. If all the evidence is as blatant and obviously true as claimed, then how else would judge after judge rule against the election lawsuits? When I sample through the various evidence claims, what I see is not the proof that it is described as.

[Bren]

Greetings!

Being mentally unstable and emotionally fragile seem to be characteristics strongly embedded with Leftists. Leftists are often plagued with depression, autism, bipolarism, schizophrenia, paranoia, delusions, and oppression complexes--in addition to narcissism, and a worldview that is essentially petulant and juvenile.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Yes they are almost as unstable, emotionally fragile, petulant, juvenile, and crazy as the Trumpkins.

Almost.

[Bren]

The problem here is your insistence on blind faith. Personally, I don't implicitly trust any of the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, Trump, or Biden. When I try to find out what any of them actually did, what I look for is evidence.

It's not called blind faith for nothing. Regardless of the subject of their blindness, people with blind faith just aren't amenable to evidence based claims or rational discourse.

[rawma]

You still can't post one single link to support your position, though. Just trash talking the New York Times.

Why would I? You already found the links if you looked up the political stance of NYT.

That plenty of right wing people call anything short of Breitbart left-wing? No need for an internet search. You said that New York Times supported you based on recriminations from a losing Democratic candidate versus bomb threats within the Republican party. But you can't offer any basis for your belief that bias was responsible for the disparity. Still waiting for you to post any links so I can laugh at what you consider unbiased media.

Since you don't like "left-leaning" sources, here's one describing threats to Republicans in Georgia. Are you going to claim that the people threatening Republicans in Georgia are actually Democrats?
https://www.breitbart.com/news/georgia-elections-official-urges-trump-to-rein-in-supporters/

Honestly,

LOL. This is like when Donald Trump tells a story where someone called him "sir".

But since you want to air it out, the only bizarre PM between us ever was yours where you attacked me for criticizing someone you believed had a PhD (still don't know whom you meant in a forum where almost everyone is pseudonymous); a nice combination of argument from authority and ignorance of the fallibility of actual PhDs.

[Trond]

You still can't post one single link to support your position, though. Just trash talking the New York Times.

Why would I? You already found the links if you looked up the political stance of NYT.

That plenty of right wing people call anything short of Breitbart left-wing? No need for an internet search. You said that New York Times supported you based on recriminations from a losing Democratic candidate versus bomb threats within the Republican party. But you can't offer any basis for your belief that bias was responsible for the disparity. Still waiting for you to post any links so I can laugh at what you consider unbiased media.

Since you don't like "left-leaning" sources, here's one describing threats to Republicans in Georgia. Are you going to claim that the people threatening Republicans in Georgia are actually Democrats?
https://www.breitbart.com/news/georgia-elections-official-urges-trump-to-rein-in-supporters/

Honestly,

LOL. This is like when Donald Trump tells a story where someone called him "sir".

But since you want to air it out, the only bizarre PM between us ever was yours where you attacked me for criticizing someone you believed had a PhD (still don't know whom you meant in a forum where almost everyone is pseudonymous); a nice combination of argument from authority and ignorance of the fallibility of actual PhDs.

I have a PhD, don't know about anyone else here. And you started that PM conversation.

[Shasarak]

Has Trump said anything about the cyberattack we just suffered? Is he even pretending to care about his office or the American public anymore?

Why would he start now? He's far too busy conning the rubes to get some more money.

Where were you when BLM was grifting money hand over fist?

Not so worried about the "rubes" then.

[VisionStorm]

Oh, noes! It turns out the DNC cheated Bernie again! What an incredible development! WHO COULD'VE FORSEEN THIS?!?

PS: Democrats would NEVER cheat on the general elections, though. That's just a Republican conspiracy theory, amirite? 

The problem here is your insistence on blind faith. Personally, I don't implicitly trust any of the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, Trump, or Biden. When I try to find out what any of them actually did, what I look for is evidence.

The only thing I have faith on is that the entire system has become irrevocably corrupt, and that the Democratic party has become the most criminal corrupt of either party at this point, but they're both criminally corrupt. I don't trust any of them--even Trump. My support for him exists strictly on the basis that 1) I consider him to be literally the lesser of two evils, 2) I still value some of his accomplishments (multiple peace deals, improved economy, attempts to bring troops home, etc.) despite my reservations over some of the things he's done (rammed up drone strikes while making them secret, so we no longer know how many people he's killed using them), and 3) I believe that he's the only one who has the will and the ego to fight against the machine, even if at least partly for his own selfish egotistic reasons. All in all I think he's better than Obama (who was only marginally better than Bush), which is admittedly a low bar, but one I no longer believe any president is capable of surpassing, given how broken and corrupt the entire system has become.

In the 2020 general elections, the claims require that not just dozens to hundreds of Democrats - but also dozens of top-ranking Republicans as well as dozens of court judges all have to be in on the conspiracy. If all the evidence is as blatant and obviously true as claimed, then how else would judge after judge rule against the election lawsuits? When I sample through the various evidence claims, what I see is not the proof that it is described as.

And that is precisely what I believe happened. Republicans hate Trump. The man basically inserted himself into their party and took it over, and #NeverTrump has been a thing since the man got the nomination to run as the Republican candidate for president. Most that work with him do so out of expediency, since they're stuck with him either way. I have zero difficulty believing that Democrats and Republicans would work together to preserve the status quo, cuz that is precisely what has been happening for decades and how we were pushed into forever wars. Their differences are all performative, just to get elected, but neither party works for the public, only for the special interests, and Trump has been disrupting all that. The judges haven't even looked at any of the evidence, but dismissed every case on the grounds of things such as improper filing, rather than the merits of them.