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2020 Election Commentary

Started by deadDMwalking, July 17, 2020, 04:22:33 PM

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Elfdart

Jesus Fucking Christ, is this guy honestly that goddamned stupid? He can\'t understand the plot of a Star Wars film? We\'re not talking about "Rashomon" here, for fuck\'s sake. The plot is as linear as they come. If anything, the film tries too hard to fill in all the gaps. This guy must be a flaming retard.  --Mike Wong on Red Letter Moron\'s review of The Phantom Menace

EOTB

Even if SCOTUS would have ruled in Texas favor, the globalist GOP as currently constituted would have voted Biden in "for the good of the country".  They've been signaling for the past few days that enough would peel off support (it would only take a couple of state delegations to swing it to Biden in the House) .  Maybe an outside shot they'd do Pence as a compromise.  But Trump was not going to win a 2nd term by any method written out ahead of time.

This is what I meant about clarity.  If anything, I think its unfortunate that SCOTUS didn't make the GOP vote Biden in. 

As I said before, it all comes down to whether or not Trump wants to cross the line.  There's never been a moment in my lifetime like this, where people are so willing to follow a leader willing to cross it.  My gut is Trump is not willing to do it.  We'll see.  But someone will be willing to do it. 
A framework for generating local politics

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jeff37923

Quote from: HappyDaze on December 11, 2020, 08:41:54 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on December 11, 2020, 06:29:09 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 11, 2020, 02:43:03 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on December 11, 2020, 01:19:52 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 11, 2020, 01:08:31 PM
Fap fap fap

You are full of more shit than a Christmas turkey.

Your kink is not OK.

Oh, poor jeffy. You haven't had enough attention lately, have you, dear?

Well, you are impervious to reason, so all that is left is mockery and insults.
You see, jeffy, I'm impervious to the nonsense you and so many others here peddle, yes. And when the mockery comes from a buttnugget like you, well, that means nothing to me, just as you don't.

Dance monkey! Dance!
"Meh."

jeff37923

Quote from: Elfdart on December 11, 2020, 09:38:32 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on December 11, 2020, 09:29:54 AM
Could someone please change Elfdart's diaper?! He shat himself, again!

You have a weird obsession with other people's bowels, but if one were to compile a list of reasons why you're a total fucktard, this fixation of yours on human feces wouldn't break the top ten.

Oh, please, type it up! You are exceptional at shitting out nonsense to laugh at, so it would be a hoot!
"Meh."

rawma

Quote from: moonsweeper on December 11, 2020, 08:32:46 PM
actually that LARPer group in Michigan were anarchists, neither right nor left...I mean what sort of right wing militia group doesn't even read Breitbart.

As always: on the team until never on the team. "Should you or any of your militia be caught or killed, the right wing will disavow any knowledge of your actions." Since you are convinced only the right wing have guns, the fact that they had guns alone should suffice. Militia membership, participation in right wing protests, confederate flags, targeting all Democrats and some Republicans (doubtless RINOs), boogaloo movement, Proud Boys, right wing heroes - the connections go on and on. That some details are inconsistent just shows they aren't very smart; John Stuart Mill could explain why that might be.

(If, like Pat, you only support right wing objectives while claiming to be something else, why would you care if violent and stupid criminals are identified as right wing?)

rawma

Quote from: Pat on December 11, 2020, 09:10:03 PM
There's nothing nihilistic about what I said. That you interpreted that way says a lot about you, and nothing about me.

The foundational element of a democracy (representative or direct) is voting, and you insist anyone's vote counts for nothing. That's nihilism. Your rhetorical style of "I know you are but what am I" would be impressive in third grade; for those of us who aren't in third grade it's just tiresome and stupid.

QuoteAll I did was point out a simple truth: Your individual vote doesn't matter. It won't affect any state or national election. And even if we assume your vote will make a difference, the personal reward isn't worth the effort.

This is why people form factions, be they political parties or identity groups. Old folks vote reliably, so Social Security is the third rail, and so the elderly reap benefits, protecting Social Security, from their collective voting.

Quote
I've voted in every election since I became old enough to vote, except for one. (Emergency travel and living in a state with onerous absentee ballot provisions that made it impossible to qualify.)

You apparently find your voting if not your vote to be worthwhile. I too have voted, even when I've been unhappy with all the choices presented (or had no meaningful choices). But often, as with President-elect Biden, I can find something to be genuinely happy about.

Mistwell

Electors vote on Monday. So, what's the miracle plan now?

EOTB

Sit in amusement for the next few days watching the Bush GOP make all the mistakes soy men typically make - thinking they will recapture loyalty to their faction through insulting Trump's supporters and telling them this is for their own good.

My hope, if Trump as I expect doesn't push this to unusual means, is that he ignores protocol and dumps enough dirt to absolutely burn the GOP establishment that pumped the brakes on him in every non-public way it could.

But spilling all the tea with declass the gov doesn't support would be the miracle.  Bush Republicans gloating themselves into a corner requires only playing to type. 
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Pat

Quote from: rawma on December 12, 2020, 01:09:56 AM
Quote from: Pat on December 11, 2020, 09:10:03 PM
There's nothing nihilistic about what I said. That you interpreted that way says a lot about you, and nothing about me.

The foundational element of a democracy (representative or direct) is voting, and you insist anyone's vote counts for nothing. That's nihilism. Your rhetorical style of "I know you are but what am I" would be impressive in third grade; for those of us who aren't in third grade it's just tiresome and stupid.
I've repeatedly said voting is essential to democracy, but individual votes don't matter. Failure to understand that simple distinction is an intellectual failure on your part; and repeatedly denying what I said, and now resorting to insults, is just you being dishonest.

Larsdangly

I'm enjoying all the disillusioned and borderline-psychotic blather of the various closet neo-Nazi's here who gonna die mad over Trump's loss. They remind me of this article:

https://thehardtimes.net/culture/libertarian-wins-debate-imaginary-girlfriend/?fbclid=IwAR2z80xyD8iWyia35N7gJDi3K3PkeI2QW5SMd-IspylA2xSUo98X-4k6y1Q


Ratman_tf

Quote from: Larsdangly on December 12, 2020, 10:40:14 AM
I'm enjoying all the disillusioned and borderline-psychotic blather of the various closet neo-Nazi's here who gonna die mad over Trump's loss. They remind me of this article:

https://thehardtimes.net/culture/libertarian-wins-debate-imaginary-girlfriend/?fbclid=IwAR2z80xyD8iWyia35N7gJDi3K3PkeI2QW5SMd-IspylA2xSUo98X-4k6y1Q

Do your friends know you hobnob with neo-Nazis online?
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Mistwell

Quote from: EOTB on December 12, 2020, 02:15:49 AM
Sit in amusement for the next few days watching the Bush GOP make all the mistakes soy men typically make - thinking they will recapture loyalty to their faction through insulting Trump's supporters and telling them this is for their own good.

My hope, if Trump as I expect doesn't push this to unusual means, is that he ignores protocol and dumps enough dirt to absolutely burn the GOP establishment that pumped the brakes on him in every non-public way it could.

But spilling all the tea with declass the gov doesn't support would be the miracle.  Bush Republicans gloating themselves into a corner requires only playing to type.

So, if I read that right, you're saying Trump will leave the Presidency, and your hope is he burns down the parts of the GOP who do not support him on the way out?

HappyDaze

Quote from: Mistwell on December 12, 2020, 11:07:33 AM
Quote from: EOTB on December 12, 2020, 02:15:49 AM
Sit in amusement for the next few days watching the Bush GOP make all the mistakes soy men typically make - thinking they will recapture loyalty to their faction through insulting Trump's supporters and telling them this is for their own good.

My hope, if Trump as I expect doesn't push this to unusual means, is that he ignores protocol and dumps enough dirt to absolutely burn the GOP establishment that pumped the brakes on him in every non-public way it could.

But spilling all the tea with declass the gov doesn't support would be the miracle.  Bush Republicans gloating themselves into a corner requires only playing to type.

So, if I read that right, you're saying Trump will leave the Presidency, and your hope is he burns down the parts of the GOP who do not support him on the way out?
You can see a real lack of maturity in many of those that continue to support Trump's idiotic post-election antics. These are the people that adamantly claim to see something of substance in the Emperor's New Claims when those in their right minds (which includes the heavily conservative Supreme Court) keep saying there's nothing there. For some reason, they just can't get enough of those orange circus peanuts dangling over their faces.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: HappyDaze on December 12, 2020, 12:25:24 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 12, 2020, 11:07:33 AM
Quote from: EOTB on December 12, 2020, 02:15:49 AM
Sit in amusement for the next few days watching the Bush GOP make all the mistakes soy men typically make - thinking they will recapture loyalty to their faction through insulting Trump's supporters and telling them this is for their own good.

My hope, if Trump as I expect doesn't push this to unusual means, is that he ignores protocol and dumps enough dirt to absolutely burn the GOP establishment that pumped the brakes on him in every non-public way it could.

But spilling all the tea with declass the gov doesn't support would be the miracle.  Bush Republicans gloating themselves into a corner requires only playing to type.

So, if I read that right, you're saying Trump will leave the Presidency, and your hope is he burns down the parts of the GOP who do not support him on the way out?
You can see a real lack of maturity

That's fucking rich coming from a guy whose response to things he found distasteful on a message board was to become an admitted petulant troll himself.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

rawma

Quote from: Pat on December 12, 2020, 05:29:46 AM
I've repeatedly said voting is essential to democracy, but individual votes don't matter. Failure to understand that simple distinction is an intellectual failure on your part; and repeatedly denying what I said, and now resorting to insults, is just you being dishonest.

You started with and have more often said that anyone's vote doesn't matter, period. With no qualification. Your trolling amounts to stubbornly moving the goal posts an inch at a time. You'd get insulted less if you would state your positions plainly and honestly up front. And you've deserved every insult I've directed at you. Take a long look in the mirror, if your high-wattage projection doesn't blind you.