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2020 Election Commentary

Started by deadDMwalking, July 17, 2020, 04:22:33 PM

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Shasarak

Quote from: HappyDaze on December 09, 2020, 07:03:37 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on December 09, 2020, 06:43:30 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on December 09, 2020, 06:21:13 PM
Explain to me what exactly does justify violence in a democracy?

Everything in society comes down to the threat of violence followed by actual violence.

It is people like SHARK that keep your walled garden safe from the snakes outside.
Wrong. It's morons like SHARK that mistake everyone walking by for a snake and pretty soon starts seeing the gardeners and even the garden owner as snakes too.

You mean like the Professors in the Universities that have finally figured out why everyone else has been doing Communism wrong for all of these years and or sell the Chinese state secrets?

Why would they ever be confused as snakes?
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

VisionStorm

Quote from: HappyDaze on December 09, 2020, 07:03:37 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on December 09, 2020, 06:43:30 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on December 09, 2020, 06:21:13 PM
Explain to me what exactly does justify violence in a democracy?

Everything in society comes down to the threat of violence followed by actual violence.

It is people like SHARK that keep your walled garden safe from the snakes outside.
Wrong. It's morons like SHARK that mistake everyone walking by for a snake and pretty soon starts seeing the gardeners and even the garden owner as snakes too.

Counterpoint: SHARK is just a guy venting in a relatively obscure online forum (where his words, even if sometimes a little extreme, can't really hurt or even influence anyone to hurt someone else--cuz, really, how many people does he even reach?), and you're a "shitstain" pretending that he has nothing to be concerned about (despite all evidence to the contrary).

HappyDaze

Quote from: VisionStorm on December 09, 2020, 08:01:09 PM
(despite all evidence to the contrary)
Oh, yes, your lack of understanding of what comprises "evidence" has been quite apparent for the last month. But by all means, keep sticking up for your boyfriend, whether that's SHARK or Trump. Neither seems to be all that capable of doing much winning lately.

VisionStorm

Quote from: HappyDaze on December 09, 2020, 08:07:45 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on December 09, 2020, 08:01:09 PM
(despite all evidence to the contrary)
Oh, yes, your lack of understanding of what comprises "evidence" has been quite apparent for the last month.

And yet, no one's actually called me out on it or provided examples of me not knowing WTH "evidence" is, and I have NO clue WTF you're even talking about. But you can just claim it into existence, cuz this is the internet.

Quote from: HappyDaze on December 09, 2020, 08:07:45 PMBut by all means, keep sticking up for your boyfriend, whether that's SHARK or Trump. Neither seems to be all that capable of doing much winning lately.

Damn! That's homophobic AF! Or are you gonna pretend to be a "neocon", like Shitwell?  :P

Shasarak

Quote from: HappyDaze on December 09, 2020, 08:07:45 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on December 09, 2020, 08:01:09 PM
(despite all evidence to the contrary)
Oh, yes, your lack of understanding of what comprises "evidence" has been quite apparent for the last month. But by all means, keep sticking up for your boyfriend, whether that's SHARK or Trump. Neither seems to be all that capable of doing much winning lately.

Come on Happy, casting stones so soon after losing your sweet China Wuhan virus gig?
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

HappyDaze

Quote from: VisionStorm on December 09, 2020, 08:19:14 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 09, 2020, 08:07:45 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on December 09, 2020, 08:01:09 PM
(despite all evidence to the contrary)
Oh, yes, your lack of understanding of what comprises "evidence" has been quite apparent for the last month.

And yet, no one's actually called me out on it or provided examples of me not knowing WTH "evidence" is, and I have NO clue WTF you're even talking about. But you can just claim it into existence, cuz this is the internet.

Quote from: HappyDaze on December 09, 2020, 08:07:45 PMBut by all means, keep sticking up for your boyfriend, whether that's SHARK or Trump. Neither seems to be all that capable of doing much winning lately.

Damn! That's homophobic AF! Or are you gonna pretend to be a "neocon", like Shitwell?  :P
Homophobic? Why, are you a man?

HappyDaze

Quote from: Shasarak on December 09, 2020, 09:06:41 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 09, 2020, 08:07:45 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on December 09, 2020, 08:01:09 PM
(despite all evidence to the contrary)
Oh, yes, your lack of understanding of what comprises "evidence" has been quite apparent for the last month. But by all means, keep sticking up for your boyfriend, whether that's SHARK or Trump. Neither seems to be all that capable of doing much winning lately.

Come on Happy, casting stones so soon after losing your sweet China Wuhan virus gig?
Gotta admit, the money I walked away from was attractive, but it was a bad gig. It's OK though, I'm weighing two offers right now that pay a little less but are far more stable and don't make me feel like I'm tending a dumpster fire. I may have a third to consider "shortly" (OK, it's the VA, and they don't really do anything quickly).

SHARK

Quote from: Trond on December 09, 2020, 05:33:05 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on December 09, 2020, 05:21:17 PM

  Well, lefties escalated to violence and they won..so...
A part of the left really did. And the other part tried to claim that it was for a "good cause" (it wasn't, learn to investigate a little, morons), or they tried to pretend it wasn't even happening, or that it was "really coming from the Alt-right"(you have to be kidding me, I saw it for myself this time). No wonder why people on the right don't trust their articles, "fact checks", or wise-ass think pieces.

Greetings!

Excellent points, Trond! And, unfortunately, so very true. There was once a time here in America where much of the media strove for being balanced, objective, and fair--while also being patriotic, decent, and loyal. And even the media outlets, think tanks, and so on that were more biased one way or another, openly admitted such, though even they also mostly worked under the same professional standards and social expectations.

That has steadily eroded over the years, and coalesced into an obvious landslide of most of such organizations being not merely biased, but eagerly embracing Leftist Marxism, while to your face earnestly denying it. Now, in collusion with Big Tech, they are openly supporting censorship and information control, and viciously smearing, belittling, or dismissing anyone that doesn't suck down the approved narrative.

Very disturbing, my friend, and not a good barometer for future trends for sure!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

SHARK

Quote from: Shasarak on December 09, 2020, 07:36:12 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 09, 2020, 07:03:37 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on December 09, 2020, 06:43:30 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on December 09, 2020, 06:21:13 PM
Explain to me what exactly does justify violence in a democracy?

Everything in society comes down to the threat of violence followed by actual violence.

It is people like SHARK that keep your walled garden safe from the snakes outside.
Wrong. It's morons like SHARK that mistake everyone walking by for a snake and pretty soon starts seeing the gardeners and even the garden owner as snakes too.

You mean like the Professors in the Universities that have finally figured out why everyone else has been doing Communism wrong for all of these years and or sell the Chinese state secrets?

Why would they ever be confused as snakes?

Greetings!

*laughing* You know that's right, Shasarak! The professors actually look at you with a straight face maintaining that BS! ;D

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

consolcwby

#1839
Quote from: SHARK on December 09, 2020, 09:14:02 PM
Quote from: Trond on December 09, 2020, 05:33:05 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on December 09, 2020, 05:21:17 PM

  Well, lefties escalated to violence and they won..so...
A part of the left really did. And the other part tried to claim that it was for a "good cause" (it wasn't, learn to investigate a little, morons), or they tried to pretend it wasn't even happening, or that it was "really coming from the Alt-right"(you have to be kidding me, I saw it for myself this time). No wonder why people on the right don't trust their articles, "fact checks", or wise-ass think pieces.

Greetings!

Excellent points, Trond! And, unfortunately, so very true. There was once a time here in America where much of the media strove for being balanced, objective, and fair--while also being patriotic, decent, and loyal. And even the media outlets, think tanks, and so on that were more biased one way or another, openly admitted such, though even they also mostly worked under the same professional standards and social expectations.

That has steadily eroded over the years, and coalesced into an obvious landslide of most of such organizations being not merely biased, but eagerly embracing Leftist Marxism, while to your face earnestly denying it. Now, in collusion with Big Tech, they are openly supporting censorship and information control, and viciously smearing, belittling, or dismissing anyone that doesn't suck down the approved narrative.

Very disturbing, my friend, and not a good barometer for future trends for sure!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
They have thrown down the gauntlet at last! Get your guns, boyz, it's TIME: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP8AKAIhQLw
(unfortunately, i dont have a legal firearm around.  :-[ so I'll have to sit this one out!)
------------------------
I know I'm late to the thread, but just some insider information for you all:
This threat is real enough. Seeing that she is a member of a Direct Action ( see origins: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squamish_Five ) Committee,  a member of the state legislature , AND a long standing PRC sympathizer (now absorbed - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupamaros ). The unrelenting stream of illegal immigrants over the last few decades along with CIA money laundering operations (mostly having to do with these and other groups) have led up to this. IN NO WAY IS ANYONE SAFE FROM THIS THREAT.

I REPEAT - NO ONE IS SAFE FROM THIS THREAT.
First, it's Trump supporters, then it's the Christians, then the Jews, then the Athiests, then the Academics... you get the idea. THIS IS WWIII PEOPLE! NOT JOKING!
For the tip of the iceberg, see: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/11/operation-condor-cia-latin-america-repression-torture
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Pat

Quote from: oggsmash on December 09, 2020, 06:21:13 PM
Explain to me what exactly does justify violence in a democracy?
Taxation.

oggsmash

Quote from: VisionStorm on December 09, 2020, 08:19:14 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 09, 2020, 08:07:45 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on December 09, 2020, 08:01:09 PM
(despite all evidence to the contrary)
Oh, yes, your lack of understanding of what comprises "evidence" has been quite apparent for the last month.

And yet, no one's actually called me out on it or provided examples of me not knowing WTH "evidence" is, and I have NO clue WTF you're even talking about. But you can just claim it into existence, cuz this is the internet.

Quote from: HappyDaze on December 09, 2020, 08:07:45 PMBut by all means, keep sticking up for your boyfriend, whether that's SHARK or Trump. Neither seems to be all that capable of doing much winning lately.

Damn! That's homophobic AF! Or are you gonna pretend to be a "neocon", like Shitwell?  :P
Or like Lindsey Graham?  Nothing wrong with confirmed bachelors right?

SHARK

Quote from: VisionStorm on December 09, 2020, 08:01:09 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 09, 2020, 07:03:37 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on December 09, 2020, 06:43:30 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on December 09, 2020, 06:21:13 PM
Explain to me what exactly does justify violence in a democracy?

Everything in society comes down to the threat of violence followed by actual violence.

It is people like SHARK that keep your walled garden safe from the snakes outside.
Wrong. It's morons like SHARK that mistake everyone walking by for a snake and pretty soon starts seeing the gardeners and even the garden owner as snakes too.

Counterpoint: SHARK is just a guy venting in a relatively obscure online forum (where his words, even if sometimes a little extreme, can't really hurt or even influence anyone to hurt someone else--cuz, really, how many people does he even reach?), and you're a "shitstain" pretending that he has nothing to be concerned about (despite all evidence to the contrary).

Greetings!

Excellent point, VisionStorm! Perhaps I'm wrong, but I approach our little website here like a favourite pub, or a bar and grill down the road a bit. I often grab some pizza or something else to eat while having some coffee, and then smoking a pipe or a cigar while reading the news, and stepping in here to discuss gaming and politics and current events. Many folks here, like myself, are also military veterans. Just like a bar and grill, occasionally different people will stop by and join in the discussions, or the waitress or bartender too. I don't moderate my commentary here like I am speaking with total strangers, grandmothers, or children. So, you are quite right, my friend, I do my fair share of "venting"--just like in the same manner, I expect everyone else gathered around the table is doing as well.

Certainly, I would curate my words more so if I was an official, like a state legislator--but I'm not. Just like no one else here is, either. So, I like to appreciate the notion that we are freer to express ourselves, venting, debating and arguing different issues of the day in that kind of context. As for an official State Legislator--like Cynthia Johnson--her video and commentary can thus rightfully be viewed in an entirely different context.

Beyond that, I don't expect nor would I want people to moderate themselves in some phony, shallow manner as if they are speaking to a room full of grandmothers or what have you. Imagine how saccharine sweet and mind bogglingly dull that would be, you know? Not to mention, as we all I'm sure are familiar with, officials, lawyers, and politicians routinely embrace always looking good, looking sweet, and always talking with assured self-importance--but most of their time they gibber endlessly and say nothing important or meaningful. I routinely speak to lots of normal people--fellow church members, businessmen, merchants, the barber, mechanics, various professionals, law enforcement members--and they often express their views that such traitor and scum should be shot, or swing, or be thrown into Gitmo, and more besides. In that regard, some of my exuberant and stern views are not some horrific social outlier, some terrible cry of a monster--but are quite in good company of many other fellow citizens, and probably a solid majority. I'm sure that you are also familiar with many ordinary fellow Americans that express such opinions generally similar to my own.

It is weird to me though, that some members here talk like they are from another planet entirely, you know? It brings to my mind yet more subtle and not-so-subtle examples of how steep our cultural divide in our country has become.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

oggsmash

Quote from: consolcwby on December 09, 2020, 09:17:16 PM
Quote from: SHARK on December 09, 2020, 09:14:02 PM
Quote from: Trond on December 09, 2020, 05:33:05 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on December 09, 2020, 05:21:17 PM

  Well, lefties escalated to violence and they won..so...
A part of the left really did. And the other part tried to claim that it was for a "good cause" (it wasn't, learn to investigate a little, morons), or they tried to pretend it wasn't even happening, or that it was "really coming from the Alt-right"(you have to be kidding me, I saw it for myself this time). No wonder why people on the right don't trust their articles, "fact checks", or wise-ass think pieces.

Greetings!

Excellent points, Trond! And, unfortunately, so very true. There was once a time here in America where much of the media strove for being balanced, objective, and fair--while also being patriotic, decent, and loyal. And even the media outlets, think tanks, and so on that were more biased one way or another, openly admitted such, though even they also mostly worked under the same professional standards and social expectations.

That has steadily eroded over the years, and coalesced into an obvious landslide of most of such organizations being not merely biased, but eagerly embracing Leftist Marxism, while to your face earnestly denying it. Now, in collusion with Big Tech, they are openly supporting censorship and information control, and viciously smearing, belittling, or dismissing anyone that doesn't suck down the approved narrative.

Very disturbing, my friend, and not a good barometer for future trends for sure!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
They have thrown down the gauntlet at last! Get your guns, boyz, it's TIME: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP8AKAIhQLw
(unfortunately, i dont have a legal firearm around.  :-[ so I'll have to sit this one out!)
That video is LOL.  That lady has been sniffing her own farts too long.

consolcwby

#1844
What a JOKE this has all become! Are all you people here truly that APATHETIC to your own SURVIVAL??!!
(i guess so...)

Well, here's some more STUFF TO AVOID - wouldn't want to ruin your chances of going to an early GRAVE, or anything:

Now MI has shown their true colors:
https://openstates.org/mi/bills/2019-2020/HR188/
Wow! If your scroll down, there's that POS (i mean poc!) rep that threatened people just a little while ago! MUST BE A THEORY FOR IT TO BE A CONSPIRACY, right?
https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1336653276192800768

Now these so-called PARTY OF PEACE AND PROGRESS have someone to really fight:
https://twitter.com/LeeChatfield/status/1336737371149242372

SCOTUS has shown it's in on this as well:
https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1336451735150350336

Biden & Harris are getting SUED:
https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1336544774598262786
lol at this one!

This is very interesting, the Texas Lawsuit! I don't think it's got a chance, though-
http://www.worldwire.news/post/breaking-down-the-texas-lawsuit

A major point of the lawsuit is going to hinge on the fact that local officials in these 4 states changed voting policies, including the expansion of mail-in ballots because of the COVID-19 pandemic, without the permission of state legislatures. According to Article 2 of the U.S. Constitution, "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors." The Texas lawsuit brought by AG Paxton alleges that the local officials "do not have the constitutional authority to change voting procedures" regardless of whatever COVID-related emergency power they may have."

Paxtons argument is that it is the responsibility of state legislatures per the Constitution to set the rules for the election, and in this case those were overridden in the four states by other officials whether they were judges or other government officials and that's not the way our Constitution set it up to work, regardless of pandemic protocols.

Texas is asking the Supreme Court to to stop Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin from voting in the Electoral College. Paxon is also asking the high court to vacate the states' certification of Biden's victories and order legislators to assign each state's electoral votes, a move that could shift the election victory to President Donald Trump. Texas also is asking the Supreme Court to delay the Dec. 14 deadline for Electoral College votes to be cast.

Trump is going to send his own people in to the Texas Suit:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-says-he-will-intervene-in-texas-scotus-election-case_3611062.html
(Hope they can all fit! ;D )

And now, for the punchline: https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1336728206255284224
Trumpers are now being called PLAGUE RATS... maybe their all Jewish, after all? RIGHT?!

CONCOMMS:
Quote
EAM LOYALISTS:
Those that are still loyal to the constitution
RED1: POTUS twitter removal
narrative control, safe harbor date hit, push president elect Biden narrative, remove those who counter narrative. Trump no longer has protections
RED2: Central communications blackout [continental US]
the fake narrative of now election fraud has been defeated, evidence produced,   social media platforms  hit the kill switch to control narrative, narrative control via the   the MSM, Emergency Alert System on deck
RED3: CLAS movement PELOSI or PENCE
Hide either the VP or SOH, this makes sense now
RED4: Movement of MIL assets [10th Mountain_1st Marine_CPSD_Marine_QVIR] to central locations under guise of citizen riot control.
Quick response marines prepare
RED5: NAT MIL COM CEN
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Military_Command_Center
The National Military Command Center (NMCC)[1] is a Pentagon command and communications center for the National Command Authority (i.e., the President of the United States and the United States Secretary of Defense). 
RED6: SEC OF DEF _instruct1
Sec of defense relay orders, Epser was terminated and replaced by christopher miller
USSS
CASTLE_ROCK
Lock down White House.
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