2020 Election Commentary

[Pat]

You can pretend the only Republican is Trump, but that's nonsense.

Pretending I ever said that is nonsense. I never mentioned Trump. I never even alluded to Trump.

Romney always struck me as a competent businessman and public official, but an absurdly bad choice for a presidential candidate in 2012. When you're coming out of the worst recession in a century, and one that was blamed on the financial industry, you don't pick someone from an investment capital firm. When the growing base of your party is worried about jobs being cut and shipped overseas, you don't pick someone known for slashing and burning companies, and shipping their jobs overseas. When the major plank your party is rallying around is opposition to a particular bill, you don't pick the person whose bill was used as a model. When the biggest rallying cry of the previous decade was "We are the 99%", you don't pick a top-tier 1er% who always looks awkward talking to normal people. I literally can't imagine a worst candidate in 2012. The fact that he did as good as he did was a sign that Obama could have easily been a 1 term president. It's just the two parties are so out of tune with their bases that they keep nominating the worst possible candidates (see 2016 for another example).

But right now, Romney seems to be setting himself up for a switch to the other party. He's lionized by the left not because he's this principled Republican, but because he's a Democrat who hasn't changed his spots yet.

[consolcwby]

Is it me, or did this thread get real boring once @SHARK and I stopped posting? I, myself, had a death to worry about (my cousin's Father died of respiratory failure after battling for years with Neurofibromatosis. It'll probably be listed as COVID, even though it was an ongoing problem for the last 7-8 years).

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/sidney-powell-huge-bag-shredded-ballots-office-raffensperger-gabriel-sterling-investigated-video/

Sidney Powell: "In Georgia massive evidence of the shaving of votes and flipping to Biden exists in the machines... They've been erasing things and destroying evidence as fast as they can do it. I have in my office right now a huge bag of shredded ballots. I can't wait to see what that discloses... The people of America are not going to allow our president to be defeated by fraudulent election mechanisms. And these people have used every manner of voter fraud you can imagine. It was heavily coordinated. It was heavily funded. They now have 25 lawyers up against us our little team of misfit toys who are trying to fight for truth and justice for the American people... We have scads of evidence... Mr. Raffensperger was flat out lying. There should be a criminal investigation of him and his deputy secretary's finances around the $1o7 million Dominion contract that was suddenly awarded in Georgia when they didn't need a new system.

Wow! What a crazy person! Good thing there is no such thing as voter fraud in this election! Here's the PROOF:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1334993249082236931
https://twitter.com/robbhurstCPA/status/1335557576587665408
https://v1.nitrocdn.com/PtUefQrfncdsWOjilqcqdvGyQbUvpoWC/assets/desktop/optimized/rev-fd11ab2/media/4712a921f8f27cbf8e5651ce3d906935.EokAS9vW8AAXJOe
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1335356516124286979
https://twitter.com/CongressmanHice/status/1334919630339641345
https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1335589049206263815

What more can happen?!! The election is over! According to posters in this thread, the people vote directly for the President! Proof:
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1335610791526100993
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/alito-demands-briefs-in-pennsylvania-congressmans-lawsuit-to-flip-the-election/

Though Alito originally called for response arguments from the Commonwealth to be filed by 4 p.m. on Wednesday, Dec. 9th, the case docket was changed Sunday morning to move that deadline up to Tuesday, Dec. 8, by 9 a.m.  The change is critical.  Pennsylvania's members of the electoral college are due to meet at noon on Dec. 14th in Harrisburg to cast their votes for president.     Alito's original Dec. 9th deadline failed to take that window into account.  His new deadline does.    Because the state is acting under a "direct grant of authority" from the U.S. Constitution to manage federal elections, the U.S. Supreme Court can become involved, he argues, and can determine whether the Pennsylvania statutory and constitutional regime of laws violates the U.S. Constitution.  Kelly invites the U.S. Supreme Court to conclude as such and, perhaps more dubiously, that the state court's way of rubbishing the election violates his rights to petition the government and to receive due process under the First and Fourteenth Amendments thereto.   
State Supreme Court Judges and Secretaries of States basically created new Election Laws because of Covid. But we need to understand that the Legislatures are the only body to do that.What happens if SCOTUS invalidates PA election because vote by mail was unconstitutional, that ACT 77 violates the constitution
Will we see a domino effect where other states laws become unconstitutional, WI expanded vote by mail was created without the legislature, Georgias sign verification was passed without the legislature. If this happens what happens to Bidens 270 electoral votes. Once this happens what does the constitution say, doesn't it go to the house, does each state get 1 vote. How many states are Rs and how many Ds, 26 Rs, 23 Ds.

Why Flynn was pardoned: He is no longer under a CORRUPT JUDGE'S GAG ORDER:
https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/1335441085166968833

Good thing Americans HATE Donald Trump, right? Because this legal stuff is sure getting in the way of PROGRESS:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/trump-258000-watching-rally-rsbn-258-times-viewers-joe-bidens-thanksgiving-speech-popular-democrat-universal-history/
https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1335407864664354816

Here is my take on the above information:
Too many people, including people in this thread, want ANYONE who do not THINK like them, TALK like them, WALK like them, EAT like them, SHIT like them, or even GAME like them to DIE IN A GAS CHAMBER, THEIR CHILDREN RAPED BY PAEDOPHILES, AND THEIR WIVES RAPED. This is the USA they want. They will do and say anything because they are INVALID HUMANS. They are PHILOSOPHICAL ZOMBIES. They attribute everything wrong with themselves on to their ENEMIES WHOM THEY CHARACTERIZE AS WRONG-THINKING, UNFEELING, AND NO LONGER HUMAN!
Remember the "FREE SPEECH ZONES"? Remember the "ROUNDING UP OF THE DESPICABLES?" Remember when Hillary lost, they claimed "ELECTION FRAUD WE DONT NEED ANY EVIDENCE"? Remember when they said "VIOLENCE is FREE SPEECH AND PRIVACY,  and they are too dangerous to EXIST"?
They say liberal is government helping people, helping the environment, and the less fortunate. WHICH PEOPLE IS THAT? WHOSE ENVIRONMENT IS THAT? WHO QUALIFIES AS LESS FORTUNATE? They don't say. It certainly isn't the average or everyday person or family! THEY WANTED TO TORTURE AND KILL US. Now, the shoe has been reversed. Enjoy being hobbled FUCKING AUTHORITARIAN DEGENERATES!
I only wish I could be alive to HANG YOU ALL BY THE NECK UNTIL DEAD – PARTICULARLY FOR WHAT YOU PEOPLE HAVE DONE TO ME AND MINE.
Ignore or trash the evidence. Or maybe WHINE about the AMOUNT OF PROOF, like Mr. Kim?
You look foolish doing so.
fnord.

PS: Rememinder - I AM a liberal, at least as far as LAWFULNESS goes, while the people here ARE NOT! The actual Definition: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/liberal
       Read it. Learn it. Live it. But, I swear - I WILL NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE, NEVER GIVE UP! WHERE WE GO ONE, WE GO ALL! Even if it is STRAIGHT TO HELL!

[jeff37923]

It's enough to point out that there's no Super Bowl win for the score after three quarters. Trump can have a tiny participation trophy; it's topped with the figure of a Confederate general.

Yes, and you are being intellectually honest and not here just to troll.

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

[Spinachcat]

It's going to be HYSTERICAL when the Floyd cops get off on appeals.

"Autopsy said homicide!!!" LOL. Just wait until the autopsy falls apart in court. The coroner isn't going to survive cross-examination thanks to the pharmacological report and the video.

If they even get convicted in the first place. The jury clown car which has been the bane of so many high profile cases is going to be AMAZING in an age of social media on hyperdrive.

The entire Saint Floyd narrative will collapse in court, and even if / when the judge panders to the Burn Loot Murder fuckfaces, an appeals court will be the final say.

Personally, I'm expecting a mistrial.

Also, it's cute to see the leftists cucks still think the election's over.

After all the election fraud, I don't want a peaceful resolution via the state courts or the Supreme Court or even a 1825 repeat via the House & Senate. I'd truly love to see Trump go all Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter and teach the commie garbage what a "dictator" really looks like!

The Tree of Liberty is mighty thirsty.

[Pat]

Is it me, or did this thread get real boring once @SHARK and I stopped posting?

Just you. The partisanship gets tiring. It's like having kids screaming all day behind you.

Wow! What a crazy person! Good thing there is no such thing as voter fraud in this election! Here's the PROOF:

The procedural links have correct information, and the arguments about jurisdiction seem reasonable (not a lawyer, so I can't assess whether they really hold up). Alito shifting the date ends a whole suite of conspiracy theories. I'd like to see more about those voting machines. If they're really turning out biased results when fed even numbers of ballots, that's a smoking gun.

Here is my take on the above information:

... and then you went full-on CAPS LOCK-stuck crazy.

[consolcwby]

Is it me, or did this thread get real boring once @SHARK and I stopped posting?

Just you. The partisanship gets tiring. It's like having kids screaming all day behind you.

Wow! What a crazy person! Good thing there is no such thing as voter fraud in this election! Here's the PROOF:

The procedural links have correct information, and the arguments about jurisdiction seem reasonable (not a lawyer, so I can't assess whether they really hold up). Alito shifting the date ends a whole suite of conspiracy theories. I'd like to see more about those voting machines. If they're really turning out biased results when fed even numbers of ballots, that's a smoking gun.

Here is my take on the above information:

... and then you went full-on CAPS LOCK-stuck crazy.

Huh? What's is a caps-lock? I never EVER caps lock except to go all bold. When I do that my browser likes to 'autocorrect' (i hate chromium!) Also the ad-blocker is hanging the system too much. Sorry if my BOLD STATEMENTS frighten you. Here, have some fun with these:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/voting-machine-usb-drives-had-totals-altered-overnight-witness-in-nevada-election-contest-alleges_3604396.html
https://v1.nitrocdn.com/PtUefQrfncdsWOjilqcqdvGyQbUvpoWC/assets/desktop/optimized/rev-fd11ab2/media/bbd2930e3d1aac383aebf52f50803d88.EoY0p0iXMAA75UR
https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/1334888127668891649
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1334572762933805056
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1334588448943042560
https://twitter.com/Wizard_Predicts/status/1334912358494461954

See? absolutely nothing to fear but fud itself! 

[Mistwell]

Is it me, or did this thread get real boring once @SHARK and I stopped posting?

It would be awesome if you stopped the Gish gallop bullshit. It's one of the least persuasive forms of argumentation, and you're particularly obvious in doing it.

[Pat]

Huh? What's is a caps-lock? I never EVER caps lock except to go all bold. When I do that my browser likes to 'autocorrect' (i hate chromium!) Also the ad-blocker is hanging the system too much. Sorry if my BOLD STATEMENTS frighten you. Here, have some fun with these:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/voting-machine-usb-drives-had-totals-altered-overnight-witness-in-nevada-election-contest-alleges_3604396.html
https://v1.nitrocdn.com/PtUefQrfncdsWOjilqcqdvGyQbUvpoWC/assets/desktop/optimized/rev-fd11ab2/media/bbd2930e3d1aac383aebf52f50803d88.EoY0p0iXMAA75UR
https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/1334888127668891649
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1334572762933805056
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1334588448943042560
https://twitter.com/Wizard_Predicts/status/1334912358494461954

See? absolutely nothing to fear but fud itself! 

<caps lock on>THOSE ARE EITHER OLD OR DON'T MEAN A LOT WITHOUT ADDITIONAL CONTEXT. <caps lock off> I'm more interested in the test of the voting machines. That can be independently verified.

[consolcwby]

Is it me, or did this thread get real boring once @SHARK and I stopped posting?

It would be awesome if you stopped the Gish gallop bullshit. It's one of the least persuasive forms of argumentation, and you're particularly obvious in doing it.

Oh. Well, why don't you come to my house and stop me. Your local Action Committee members know where I live.
Because, I will never stop.
ever.
Until I AM DEAD.

[HappyDaze]

Is it me, or did this thread get real boring once @SHARK and I stopped posting?

It would be awesome if you stopped the Gish gallop bullshit. It's one of the least persuasive forms of argumentation, and you're particularly obvious in doing it.

Oh. Well, why don't you come to my house and stop me. Your local Action Committee members know where I live.
Because, I will never stop.
ever.
Until I AM DEAD.

You're so silly. This places attracts CT nutters like flies on shit.

[Mistwell]

Is it me, or did this thread get real boring once @SHARK and I stopped posting?

It would be awesome if you stopped the Gish gallop bullshit. It's one of the least persuasive forms of argumentation, and you're particularly obvious in doing it.

Oh. Well, why don't you come to my house and stop me. Your local Action Committee members know where I live.
Because, I will never stop.
ever.
Until I AM DEAD.

No reason to stop supporting what you believe in. I am talking about the gish gallop thing. Your side doesn't think it's awesome either. In fact, pretty much nobody thinks it's awesome. It's just noise.

[oggsmash]

Did you read your own source? Or just get a clue from the URL itself? The claim that Floyd died of a drug overdose is ruled False. Autopsy says homicide, as I said.

Of course I read the source, that is how come I knew that he had a fatal overdose of Fentanyl.

As for homicide, that would be up to the prosecutors to prove.

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Reading but not understanding. Fatal overdose is irrelevant if it's not the cause of death, as your link says it is not. Cause of death was homicide; the charges brought include murder and manslaughter, which is what the prosecutors must prove. The cause of death will be relevant to prosecution and defense, but "he would have died anyway of X" is not a defense if X is not the cause of death.

Well, good luck if they prove the cause of death was the very technique the city trained the officers to use against a non compliant subject.  I think that will be an interesting situation.  I also get the feeling you just do not like cops.    I have the feeling you are the sort who is pretty quick to call the police should you be offered up a slap on the face in a dispute on the sidewalks.  I sure hope you get the sort of police you deserve.

[Spinachcat]

Patriotism =/= partisanship.

We're so far past any delusion that today's leftists have anything in common with their Democrat counterparts even two generations ago.

And that's a good thing. Now only the willfully blind can't see their real agenda.

I only wish I could be alive to HANG YOU ALL BY THE NECK UNTIL DEAD – PARTICULARLY FOR WHAT YOU PEOPLE HAVE DONE TO ME AND MINE.

Unless you're in your 70s, you'll probably be around for the big show.

Most, if not all, the necessary building blocks of a civil war are tumbling down, and many look like they're falling into place, we'll have to see how the final election result shifts the rest of the blocks.

To me, it's a safe bet that a "Trump loss" will allow you to "live in interesting times" in the coming years. The question is just how "interesting" things will get and how quickly.

It's time for anyone awake to plot your personal chess moves.

[Spinachcat]

Because, I will never stop.
ever.
Until I AM DEAD.

General Patton > Patrick Henry

[Mistwell]

Patriotism =/= partisanship.

We're so far past any delusion that today's leftists have anything in common with their Democrat counterparts even two generations ago. ne awake to plot your personal chess moves.

Biden IS a Democrat from two generations ago! In fact, I'd say from more than two generations ago. I've watched him run for President since the 80s. I think it's why so many Trump supporters want to play the senile card on him (despite his age being not that far off from Trump himself) is they badly need people not remembering that he's as standard a Democrat as they come from the era when standard Democrat wasn't radical in any way. Mondale, John Glenn, Alan Cranston, Bill Bradley, Gephardt, Gary Hart, they're all similar to Joe Biden.