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Title: Cha'alt vs Last Sun: The Final Showdown
Post by: RPGPundit on April 29, 2023, 05:43:40 PM
Since just showing video of Venger's Cha'alt: Chartreuse Shadows has made my monetization limited, I decided I might as well go full comparative with the review. So here it is... Cha'alt Vs. Last Sun: The Final Showdown!
#Chaalt #dnd #ttrpg #OSR

Title: Re: Cha'alt vs Last Sun: The Final Showdown
Post by: VengerSatanis on May 01, 2023, 09:59:52 AM

It's the final countdown!

Overall, I thought this was a good video review of Cha'alt: Chartreuse Shadows.  My well-known history with RPG Pundit made the shameless comparison palatable while allowing the idiosyncrasies of Cha'alt to shine.  I was also amused when Pundit's reading of the book seemed to accidentally break his narrative.  Specifically, I'm thinking of his suspicion that Cremza'amirikza'am wasn't connected at all, when he disproved that theory upon noting the connective threads between one area and another nearby area. 

I have more to say on the immersion bit at the end, but will save that for a video on my own YouTube channel... perhaps later today?

If you're interested in one or more hardcover tomes, details here: https://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2023/02/purchasing-chaalt-hardcovers.html

VS
Title: Re: Cha'alt vs Last Sun: The Final Showdown
Post by: VengerSatanis on May 02, 2023, 08:00:56 PM

Ok, I had a few things to say about Pundit's review.  Here is the first: https://youtu.be/Cw1BgCA9TJQ

Another video to follow tomorrow (if there's time)...
Title: Re: Cha'alt vs Last Sun: The Final Showdown
Post by: Grognard GM on May 16, 2023, 09:12:33 AM
Girls, girls, you're both pretty.
Title: Re: Cha'alt vs Last Sun: The Final Showdown
Post by: VengerSatanis on May 16, 2023, 10:34:44 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on May 16, 2023, 09:12:33 AM
Girls, girls, you're both pretty.

Yes, yes... haha.  Now, engage with the content.
Title: Re: Cha'alt vs Last Sun: The Final Showdown
Post by: Grognard GM on May 16, 2023, 10:49:48 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 16, 2023, 10:34:44 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on May 16, 2023, 09:12:33 AM
Girls, girls, you're both pretty.

Yes, yes... haha.  Now, engage with the content.

Well you both have, shall we say 'strong personalities,' very different tastes, and are sort-of competitors in a niche publishing space. I'm not surprised by the butting of heads as much as I am by you both remaining civil and polite, and trying to be fair and generous, which is good. This hobby has too much negativity and faux outrage.

I also like that you both make what you want to, rather than chasing fads/crapping out cookie cutter content.

Your video seemed like the intro to a rebuttal rather than the actual rebuttal, so I can't really comment on that part yet.
Title: Re: Cha'alt vs Last Sun: The Final Showdown
Post by: VengerSatanis on May 17, 2023, 11:21:52 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on May 16, 2023, 10:49:48 AM
Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 16, 2023, 10:34:44 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on May 16, 2023, 09:12:33 AM
Girls, girls, you're both pretty.

Yes, yes... haha.  Now, engage with the content.

Well you both have, shall we say 'strong personalities,' very different tastes, and are sort-of competitors in a niche publishing space. I'm not surprised by the butting of heads as much as I am by you both remaining civil and polite, and trying to be fair and generous, which is good. This hobby has too much negativity and faux outrage.

I also like that you both make what you want to, rather than chasing fads/crapping out cookie cutter content.

Your video seemed like the intro to a rebuttal rather than the actual rebuttal, so I can't really comment on that part yet.

Yep, pretty much...

I did make another video, but that, too, isn't much of a rebuttal.  More like a jumping-off point:  https://youtu.be/1ECh6RiStrM
Title: Re: Cha'alt vs Last Sun: The Final Showdown
Post by: RPGPundit on May 19, 2023, 06:24:56 PM
Didn't watch either of Venger's videos. I'll try to get around to them sometime...
Title: Re: Cha'alt vs Last Sun: The Final Showdown
Post by: Timothe on May 19, 2023, 10:29:34 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on May 16, 2023, 10:49:48 AM

I'm not surprised by the butting of heads as much as I am by you both remaining civil and polite, and trying to be fair and generous, which is good. This hobby has too much negativity and faux outrage.


Might be why they're cohosts on a YouTube video channel (Inappropriate Characters).
Title: Re: Cha'alt vs Last Sun: The Final Showdown
Post by: VengerSatanis on May 30, 2023, 03:19:52 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on May 19, 2023, 06:24:56 PM
Didn't watch either of Venger's videos. I'll try to get around to them sometime...

You could definitely learn a few things, hoss...
Title: Re: Cha'alt vs Last Sun: The Final Showdown
Post by: RPGPundit on June 01, 2023, 06:02:43 AM
Turns out I did in fact watch the first of your two videos sometime around when it came out, and I just forgot I'd watched it.
Title: Re: Cha'alt vs Last Sun: The Final Showdown
Post by: Timothe on September 09, 2023, 09:48:26 AM
And now Renger Santana and his dungeon vlog are part of the World of the Last Sun.
Title: Re: Cha'alt vs Last Sun: The Final Showdown
Post by: VengerSatanis on September 09, 2023, 10:56:10 AM
Quote from: Timothe on September 09, 2023, 09:48:26 AM
And now Renger Santana and his dungeon vlog are part of the World of the Last Sun.

Yes, indeed!  I'll have to return the honor next Saturday.

Receipts, for you non-believers... https://www.youtube.com/live/FKrsGkdcBQA?si=l9CF3O-d7XiBEcdI&t=4260
Title: Re: Cha'alt vs Last Sun: The Final Showdown
Post by: RPGPundit on September 09, 2023, 08:38:05 PM
As usual, my DCC players are finding Venger's dungeon both ridiculous and highly entertaining.