Quote from: hedgehobbit on May 08, 2024, 10:55:13 AM

Quote from: SHARK on May 05, 2024, 05:41:50 PMJust recently, like three weeks ago or so, GW cancelled 50% of the Age of Sigmar game. I saw this one video where a fan had spent 5,000 dollars on this huge, gorgeous army--that is now cancelled. He threw them all into the trash, and said "Fuck Games Workshop! I'm Done!" You could tell that he was both heartbroken and enraged. I am totally empathetic for his feelings. I was there, exactly similar.

I really have no sympathy when Age of Sigmar was created by making the entire Old World Warhammer Fantasy obsolete. How can you be surprised when GW does the exact same thing again to the exact same franchise?

Greetings!

*Laughing* Well, I agree Hedgehobbit. On one hand, anyways at least. It's like, yeah, we have seen this shitty, greedy company fucking jerk different games around like pretzels, cancel entire games, and meanwhile, raise prices and pound the shit out of every fan. It is disgusting, and mind boggling to me. As I said earlier, I got burned by Games Workshop when they first cancelled Warhammer 40K Epic Space Marine some 20 years ago, maybe more now that I think about it. Somewhere in the 1998-2004 time frame, as I recall. I lost some $5,000 bucks into a game that wass cancelled, and no longer sold, or supported. My jaw dropped at that. A functional, relatively simple and fun game system--*BOOM*--GONE, just like that! I have never been a customer of GW since then.

However, on the other hand, this guy I saw in the video, I think he said he'd been playing for about 10 years. He talked about how much he had invested, and showed off this awesome, very nicely painted army. He explained that half of his army--he motioned to the whole army on one side of the table--was all gone now, cancelled by Games Workshop. He then picked them up by handfuls and started throwing them into a trash bin. I mention that, because I think he is a millennial, maybe 35ish. Short, well-trimmed beard, likely some kind of professional. He clearly has the cash to invest. *Laughing* But, I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt. Not everyone, especially folks younger than you and I, they don't necessarily know *what we know*, right? Our age and greater experience in the world, the hobby, and in business likely is far more than his, I imagine.

How else do you explain all these younger fans getting ran the fuck over and practically in tears about Age of Sigmar being cancelled and mangled by Games Workshop?

Hell, even some of the Warhammer 40K YouTube channel creators that again, have been in the Games Workshop/Wargaming hobby for similar time frames--10 or 15 years. They too, seem to be totally blindsided by all of the ass fucking that Games Workshop is doing to the fans.

*Laughing* Yeah, I have been burned by Games Workshop once--and have never looked back. However, I have also kept tabs on GW through the years, and I have seen how they just absolutely brutalize the games and the fans--and piss all over those fan's investments--like, every 3-5 years. Again, and again, and again. Did Age of Sigmar miss the assfucking and somehow make it unscathed to the ten-year mark before being wrecked by Games Workshop? I confess, I don't follow them that closely, so I am in the dark about the specifics.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: weirdguy564 on May 08, 2024, 10:35:53 AMBut, the core tenet is your table, your rules.

On the contrary, the fact it isn't is the problem.

The entire purpose of that post was to impose their standards on others, all while engaging in the very same problematic behavior they were calling out. Folks like this demand games be changed to suit them, all while claiming others can always ignore the parts they don't like. They're inherently narcissistic and profoundly hypocritical. And I've seen what happens when a community tolerates such behavior.

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The issue is items created by TSR and WotC, like using the term: Otiluke's Resilient Sphere or Melf's Acid Arrows, you can still use them just drop the name.  Say you want to use the bulette, ok by SRD but not the mind flayers.

There is nothing wrong covering bases, use the creative commons license and move on personally.  Reuse the monsters there and create your own flavor of existing monsters that are creatively distinct, like what Collvile did with his Mind Flayers or his Beholder.  We all know what Matt did, but WotC can't do anything about it.

https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/

Quote from: WERDNA on May 08, 2024, 03:32:55 AMLooks like the (mostly) Warhammer news site Bell of Lost Souls put BoF at the top of their brief ttrpg product round up:
https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2024/05/strike-down-demons-and-dark-magic-during-the-crusades-in-baptism-of-fire-and-more-rpg-releases.html

Don't think they've covered Pundit's stuff before.

 Is that the correct link? Don't see BoF there.

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Sadly, some of the bigger, more impressive sets are out of stock at Noble Knight but you can still buy them directly from TT Combat which claims to have free shipping to the US for orders over 100 pounds.

https://ttcombat.com/collections/world-war/products/tank-manufactoring-warehouse

If you look at the pre-generated characters in old modules, you'll see that negative ACs were very common. For example, in D1, the sample characters are all around 10th level and their ACs listed are: -4, -3, -2, 1, -3, -1, 0, -3, and -2.

In S1, all the characters have magical armor or rings/cloaks of protection and all fighters have magical shields.

Quote from: Omega on May 05, 2024, 06:51:11 AMWhat BX says as well.

This whole "Gary really meant you were supposed to reroll your HP EVERY LEVEL!" is just stupid.

Nobody is claiming that Gary Gygax did hit points this way. Only that some people in Dave Arneson's group did it this way. And since Dave's D&D predates Gygax's D&D, his method is the original method (and, as people have pointed out, it is just objectively mechanically superior).

Quote from: SHARK on May 05, 2024, 05:41:50 PMJust recently, like three weeks ago or so, GW cancelled 50% of the Age of Sigmar game. I saw this one video where a fan had spent 5,000 dollars on this huge, gorgeous army--that is now cancelled. He threw them all into the trash, and said "Fuck Games Workshop! I'm Done!" You could tell that he was both heartbroken and enraged. I am totally empathetic for his feelings. I was there, exactly similar.

I really have no sympathy when Age of Sigmar was created by making the entire Old World Warhammer Fantasy obsolete. How can you be surprised when GW does the exact same thing again to the exact same franchise?

Back to the OP. 

While I'm no fan of woke-ism or their arguments for sanitized games with no mention of hardcore crimes, I do recognize their right to do so. 

Their table, their rules. 

That is why that post is so baffling.  If you want a game to have Greek Gods who have strong morals, just do it.  It's not even hard.  It's all make believe, right?

But, the core tenet is your table, your rules. 

I just won't ask to play in that game of touchy-feely because I want horrible crimes to happen so we have something to do.