http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/That%27s_How_I_Roll_-_A_Scientific_Analysis_of_Dice
QuoteAfterwards we calculated the results and the Chessex and GW dice averaged 29% ones. Mind you that this is an average and our high was 33 and our low was 23. We removed any statistical anomalies and came up with 29%.
Game room logic, poor source of anything, would dictate that the side with the one is heavier and would therefore be on the bottom more. Unfortunately this is just not true, take popcorn or batholiths as an example. The 6 is too light to stop the momentum of the dice, the rounded corners cannot prevent the dice from turning due to the weight. In the end 1s are by far the most common result. On a 6 sided dice any given number should appear 16.6% of the time, the Vegas dice were dead on and the square dice with pips were pretty close only displaying a 19% ratio for ones.
QuoteI sent a copy of the study to Chessex and their official response was to inform me that the amount of plastic saved from rounding the corners and hollowing out the pips of 2 dice actually gave them enough left over plastic to make a 3rd dice. Economics wins.
An interesting quickie study. Sort of seems to confirm old Zocchi's ramblings, though I'd be curious to see if his dice hold up as well statistically in reality.
Huh!
Great article, and makes me even happier I have Gamescience sets. Sure, the d6's are fugly, but damn... 29%?!
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So we should all play roll-under systems with chessex dice?
:D
Interesting, although the use of "dice" as the singular irritates me unreasonably.
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Quote from: Hairfoot;311551Interesting, although the use of "dice" as the singular irritates me unreasonably.
You too? :) It's one of my pet peeves.
Gamescience vs. Chessex! Fight!
I didn't bother to look at the source, are they talking about D6s?
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Quote from: brettmb;311553You too? :) It's one of my pet peeves.
Gamescience vs. Chessex! Fight!
Mine, as well.
Yes, Pundit, D6's.
It would be interesting to run a few thousand dice through some towers, and see how towers fare with the same dice.
Or through a maze. And get them to press a bar for food or random electric shocks.
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Quote from: Hairfoot;311551Interesting, although the use of "dice" as the singular irritates me unreasonably.
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This is one thing we can agree on.
Quote from: Hairfoot;311551Interesting, although the use of "dice" as the singular irritates me unreasonably.
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Maybe we should form a club or something.
Quote from: Hairfoot;311569Or through a maze. And get them to press a bar for food or random electric shocks.
I'd like to do that with my annoying neighbors.
Keep your damn dog in your own yard!
Quote from: Hairfoot;311551Interesting, although the use of "dice" as the singular irritates me unreasonably.
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You have every reason to be irritated, grammatically it's wrong.
I think it's orthography's fault, dice should be spelt "dies", with an -s like a plural, there would be no confusion.
Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;311573This is one thing we can agree on.
Hooray for common ground! That happens approximately 19% of the time when discussing D&D, but significantly more often for other games, proving they are biased.
Quote from: Melan;311583Maybe we should form a club or something.
Yes. A club should be formed. Then offenders should be whacked mercilessly with it.
Re: dice vs die
it confuses the hell out of me when native speakers do this.
Well, technically a "die" is something with six sides. So if you're holding a Platonic solid with 12 numbered sides, you're really holding one object worth two "dice". A Platonic solid with 20 sides, one object worth 3.3333 dice.
*runs away from linguists and mathematicians alike*
I use pip dice whenever i show and tell people the "1 out of 6 rolls" empirical
evidence that 1 roll out of 6 is almost always a six.
It goes like this:
I roll 6 times, a "series". If there's a six among them: Great. Statement fulfilled.
If there's no six: Even better, it will show up in the next series.
And it always does.
At least, when i try to persuade people when it comes to dice-rolling...
Quote from: Claudius;311589You have every reason to be irritated, grammatically it's wrong.
I think it's orthography's fault, dice should be spelt "dies", with an -s like a plural, there would be no confusion.
Depends on who you ask. I endured an entire excruciating session in linguistics on this subject. Due to its derivation (Middle English
dees or
dyce, pl
dyces, from Old French
de, from Latin
datum), "dice" as singular is considered technically correct by many linguists, though I doubt many would use it that way; I have heard a couple people from England use "dice" as singular, but they weren't too bright so I wouldn't put much stock in that.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dice
http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/09/die-and-dice.html
http://www.pepysdiary.com/p/5879.php
So: annoying, yes, but incorrect? Unfortunately -- though only technically -- no.
Doesn't British English use dice for singular and plural?
Not in Australia, and it must be British English we speak here because I scream at Word every time it replaces my Ss with Zs. "Analyze"? Fuck off.
Quote from: Premier;311620Well, technically a "die" is something with six sides. So if you're holding a Platonic solid with 12 numbered sides, you're really holding one object worth two "dice". A Platonic solid with 20 sides, one object worth 3.3333 dice.
You are just trying to mess with Sett's mind, am I right? :p
Quote from: Phantom Black;311627If there's no six: Even better, it will show up in the next series.
And it always does.
At least, when i try to persuade people when it comes to dice-rolling...
Your understanding of statistics is flawed.
US dictionaries list "dice" as plural of "die", and tend to specify cubes.
Quote from: Hairfoot;311645Not in Australia, and it must be British English we speak here because I scream at Word every time it replaces my Ss with Zs. "Analyze"? Fuck off.
That shitted me off no end as well, until I found the Australian English dictionary option in Word. That made me happy :)