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yet another Conan rpg

Started by beeber, February 09, 2015, 04:23:19 PM

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Ronin

Quote from: Bilharzia;815354Chris, regarding the kickstarter, would it be possible to include stretch goals for additional rule systems in the same way Achtung! Cthulhu did?

Conan, with Savage Worlds as the system would appeal to me.
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crkrueger

I'd pull the trigger on the KS with a RQ6 stretch goal.
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K Peterson

Interesting. But, this system would need to have some serious teeth to entice me to use it for Conan over a few editions of RuneQuest, the Elric!/Stormbringer system, or Barbarians of Lemuria.

Akrasia

Quote from: Bilharzia;815354Chris, regarding the kickstarter, would it be possible to include stretch goals for additional rule systems in the same way Achtung! Cthulhu did?

Quote from: CRKrueger;815454I'd pull the trigger on the KS with a RQ6 stretch goal.

Another vote for RuneQuest 6e.  

Some other version of BRP would be acceptable, but RQ6 would be absolutely perfect for Conan.
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Akrasia

Quote from: Spinachcat;815301I would be TOTALLY STOKED (yeah I said stoked) to play in a Marvel Conan RPG campaign based on the Conan comics.

Barbarians of Lemuria would be perfect for Marvel comics (Savage Sword of) Conan.

RuneQuest 6 is perfect for original REH Conan.
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cranebump

Quote from: Akrasia;815501Barbarians of Lemuria would be perfect for Marvel comics (Savage Sword of) Conan.

RuneQuest 6 is perfect for original REH Conan.

Was going to mention BoL. Beat me to it.:-)
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Skywalker

As said, I am more than happy with Atlantis for my S&S needs, bu I will certainly be picking up the new Conan RPG if the source material is good quality and it's well presented. It's not like there is only time for one RPG (I am also a fan of Barbarians of Lemuria).

If its good, Modiphius'' version will be handy as "all in one" licenced Conan RPG for attracting certain prospective players, given that the previous licenced attempts are somewhat lacklustre.

The Butcher

Quote from: Ronin;815452Conan, with Savage Worlds as the system would appeal to me.

While nowadays I'd use RQ6, I ran the hell out of this for a year or so. Fun stuff.

beeber

Quote from: CRKrueger;815454I'd pull the trigger on the KS with a RQ6 stretch goal.

+1, i'd go for a pdf of that.

crkrueger

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Quote from: Skywalker;815533As said, I am more than happy with Atlantis for my S&S needs, bu I will certainly be picking up the new Conan RPG if the source material is good quality and it's well presented. It's not like there is only time for one RPG (I am also a fan of Barbarians of Lemuria).

If its good, Modiphius'' version will be handy as "all in one" licenced Conan RPG for attracting certain prospective players, given that the previous licenced attempts are somewhat lacklustre.

Not sure I'd call Mongoose's Conan RPG with 2 Editions, 2 Boxed city sets, a dozen setting supplements, and several rules supplements "lackluster".  If you think the 2d20 system is going to outsell a D20 version at the height of the D20 boom, you're headed for disappointment.

However, if Modiphius cross-pollinates by having one KS goal be a new mini and rules for the Conan boardgame and another KS goal be a macguffin for the Age of Conan MMO, then now you're getting somewhere.  They're never going to penetrate the market through the RPG alone, especially with an obscure narrative system.  5e, maybe.  2d20, no.

If they manage to get the ok to release setting books, then the readership expands to Conan/Howard fans who aren't roleplayers as well, but I think they'll probably focus on a string of adventures, Conan-like, without a lot of world development.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Skywalker

Quote from: CRKrueger;815607Not sure I'd call Mongoose's Conan RPG with 2 Editions, 2 Boxed city sets, a dozen setting supplements, and several rules supplements "lackluster".  If you think the 2d20 system is going to outsell a D20 version at the height of the D20 boom, you're headed for disappointment.

I agree if you are talking about quantity, but not on quality. Though Mongoose Conan was better than most OGL RPGs, it was still pretty poor and I struggled to attract anyone to play it.

It's one of those odd things. Though an RPG may sell well widely, it doesn't necessarily mean they are easier to sell to players in every RPGers circle.

crkrueger

Quote from: Skywalker;815630I agree if you are talking about quantity, but not on quality. Though Mongoose Conan was better than most OGL RPGs, it was still pretty poor and I struggled to attract anyone to play it.

It's one of those odd things. Though an RPG may sell well widely, it doesn't necessarily mean they are easier to sell to players in every RPGers circle.

Hmm, "poor" - that kind of needs a qualification I think.

Mongoose editing sucks, granted, which is why they needed the Atlantean Edition.
Mongoose maps suck too, granted.
It's D20, so if you don't like D20, it's not gonna go.

However, they did make some serious hacks to the system to make it much more Sword and Sorcery, including some great Combat Maneuvers.  The fluff, even though it included pastiche, was meticulously researched.  The two main campaigns Betrayer of Asgard and Trial of Blood were kinda railroady as "stop the bad guy" stuff tends to be, but both definitely included possibilities for failure and ways to deal with alternate decisions for the PCs.

Yeah it didn't include any cinematic "I'm Conan, so..." logic, but that was a feature, not a bug.

I'm honestly curious what you thought so "poor" about the system, because most detractors I've seen tie the disdain to the d20 system, but even they say it was a good attempt at making d20 more Conan-Like.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Skywalker

I agree that Conan was among the better OGL RPGs out there as I said in my last post.

A lot of my issue is with D20 used for Conan TBH. There was effort made to adapt it with relative success (armour and magic were good). But overall I don't think it was a great end result for Conan. I found that the changes generally were laid on top of the existing system, adding complexity to an already convoluted system. A good example was the proliferation of the use of Attacks of Oppotunities to represent racial traits.

The setting material was pretty good to begin with, though Mongoose's many editing issues became an issue.

Spinachcat

Quote from: Akrasia;815501Barbarians of Lemuria would be perfect for Marvel comics (Savage Sword of) Conan.

Why?

Quote from: cranebump;815525Was going to mention BoL. Beat me to it.:-)

Great, you explain too!

Endless Flight

Somewhere out there is a perfect Conan RPG, but I haven't seen it yet.

We'll see if this is it.