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What non-D&D game would you want a retroclone of?

Started by RPGPundit, March 06, 2014, 04:01:06 PM

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Ronin

#60
March 07, 2014, 07:33:53 PM
Quote from: RoadScholar;735162I'd love to see Paul Hume & Bob Charrette's FGU stuff retro-cloned.


An update/tweak style retro for Bushido, Aftermath!, Flashing Blades and Daredevils.

Yeah that would be pretty sweet. The only one ive messed around with is Flashing Blades. A Flashing Blades with better layout/organization would be awesome.
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#61
March 07, 2014, 07:45:44 PM
Quote from: 3rik;735176There's a JB retroclone titled Classified.

http://www.modus-operandi.co.uk/generic/classified/

Looks pretty cool. Wish I would have know before March 1st. Now Ive gotta wait till May. Oh well, way things go sometimes.
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#62
March 07, 2014, 08:15:48 PM Last Edit: March 07, 2014, 08:18:46 PM by 3rik
Quote from: Ronin;735297Looks pretty cool. Wish I would have know before March 1st. Now Ive gotta wait till May. Oh well, way things go sometimes.
There's at least two UK online distributors who are stocking it next week: Leisure Games and Games Lore. There may be others, including ones based elsewhere.

Also, are you familiar with DwD Studios' Covert Ops? Though it's not a retro-clone, I've seen it being compared to Top Secret/S.I. more than once.
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Ronin

#63
March 07, 2014, 08:36:47 PM
Quote from: 3rik;735302There's at least two UK online distributors who are stocking it next week: Leisure Games and Games Lore. There may be others, including ones based elsewhere.

Also, are you familiar with DwD Studios' Covert Ops? Though it's not a retro-clone, I've seen it being compared to Top Secret/S.I. more than once.

Cool, but I'm not big on importing something from overseas.:)

I think I've looked over Covert Ops. I dont remember though. I'll have to check it out again. Thanks for pointing these out to me. I appreciate it. Love me some spy stuff.:)
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#64
March 07, 2014, 08:40:26 PM
Ok I have looked at Covert Ops before. Its on the wishlist for certain now. Fundage do to winter bills is killing me.
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#65
March 08, 2014, 03:37:23 AM
Quote from: The Butcher;735261Fuck yeah!



Wait, what?

That's like saying "I want a D&D 3.5e retroclone but seriously, fuck the d20."

I'd keep the system mostly intact. The main things I'd do would be to make Powers more generic and pliable (e.g. group Flame Project, Heat Vision, Lightning, etc. under Energy Blast with the right Bonuses and/or Limitations) and sanitize the horribly broken (at least in 3e) Gadget system.
Naw. I'd keep the flavored powers. It's one of the things that actually makes the game standout against the 'modern' effects-based approaches, and the reason I like it better.
Quote from: APN;735287Well, the system is in Limbo, with Pulsar Games having gone the way of the dodo and the license to print BoH in doubt as DC/Time Warner claim copyright on everything.

Whilst I doubt that RPGs even appear on their radar, were I to try a retro clone of DC Heroes I would:

1) yeah, lose the table. 11+OV is target number. 2D10 + AV to equal or exceed. Every 2 rolled over target, +1 EV. -RV to find RAPs. That's it.

2) Use Hero points in different ways. Increase AV/EV/OV/RV also buy extra D10s to 'roll and keep'. In other words roll a bunch of dice, pick two to use and ditch the rest.

3) Break powers down so you can mix and match. Offense power comes with a basic EV, that's it. You pay extra for range, AV, special effects (heat, cold, energy, etc) all as required. Movement, pay extra to fly, teleport, swim.

It'd be less of a clone and more of an 'inspired by', to avoid any lawyers wrath - for instance do you, or anyone on here have spare cash to fight off lawyers? I don't, and don't need the hassle for something I'd put out for free.

I'd also (pulls up a dustbin lid to use as a shield) maybe think about Mystical stats. As in, getting shut of them. Have Magic either be a physical or mystical effect, chosen at the time of casting. Bit radical, but they were the least used in our games, save for Aura to mystic link.

My players were petrified of Magic Blast. You could make a character with Magic Blast, area effect, serious burnout and buy 30APs with a beginning character, then kill the planet in one phase.

Or maybe mystic stuff is all +5FC.

Perhaps such a project could be chatted about in the game design section of the forum. It's a game close to my heart and I would more than pull my weight in a joint project...

I actually did many of these things in Roulade, but I'd rather they stay there and not in anything that I was expecting to be MEGS. :D
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#66
March 08, 2014, 09:16:38 AM
I would change very very little about DC Heroes. Maybe clean up a few things that are confusing. They changed enough in Blood of Heroes and I didn't like it from what I've seen.

3rik

#67
March 08, 2014, 09:50:06 AM
Quote from: Ronin;735308Ok I have looked at Covert Ops before. Its on the wishlist for certain now. Fundage do to winter bills is killing me.

I'm not even that big on spy and covert ops stuff, or at least I never really felt inclined to look into it. I picked up the all-in-one POD hardcover of Covert Ops because I love what they did with BareBones Fantasy, which uses the same rules set. I must say I probably like Covert Ops even better.

(FYI they're currently working on Frontier Space, a space opera game running on the same rules engine, which was mentioned earlier on in this thread.)
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#68
March 08, 2014, 03:09:27 PM
Bushido, Dragonquest, Thieves World, Golden Heroes, TNMT, and just so I could have my wicked way with it via OGL shenanigans: Tunnels & Trolls 5th edition.

APN

#69
March 08, 2014, 05:26:41 PM
Golden Heroes was done. Look on here for codename spandex.

It's also a travesty 5.5 T&T wasn't ever put out (legally) on PDF. I think the Flying Buffalo crowd figured it would distract from the new (Kickstarted) edition but for many players it's all you need to play T&T.

The Butcher

#70
March 08, 2014, 06:14:48 PM
Quote from: 3rik;735291Also, John Ossoway is planning a new edition of Cthulhu Rising that will run on OpenQuest.

Oh yeah. I've been hunting down Cthulhu Rising ever since it was an elusive Chaosium monograph and I am really, really looking forward to this. If River of Heaven is anything to go by, Mr. Ossoway knows his SF.

Apparition

#71
March 08, 2014, 10:48:17 PM
I would very much like to see retroclones of Buck Rogers XXVc and DC Heroes / Blood of Heroes.

Mistwell

#72
March 08, 2014, 10:52:58 PM
Star Frontiers: I don't need the basic rules, I need someone to start producing stuff for it!

Gamma World: I heard the last iteration from WOTC was actually pretty good, but I sure loved the original and would like to see it revived and stuff produced for it.

Benoist

#73
March 08, 2014, 10:55:45 PM
Quote from: Mistwell;735454Gamma World: I heard the last iteration from WOTC was actually pretty good, but I sure loved the original and would like to see it revived and stuff produced for it.

That one is done. It's Mutant Future, from Goblinoid Games.

http://www.goblinoidgames.com/mutantfuture.html

Mistwell

#74
March 08, 2014, 10:59:25 PM
Quote from: Benoist;735456That one is done. It's Mutant Future, from Goblinoid Games.

http://www.goblinoidgames.com/mutantfuture.html

Cool, did not know that!
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