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Title: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Fighterboy on December 22, 2021, 05:19:42 AM
OK, actually it's old pretentious wankery at the Purple Place which has had new posts to bring it back to life, so if it's been discussed here before please accept my apologies!

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/paul-czege-on-the-wild-energy-of-the-itch-io-ttrpg-scene-or-my-life-with-itch.853603/ (https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/paul-czege-on-the-wild-energy-of-the-itch-io-ttrpg-scene-or-my-life-with-itch.853603/)

There's a post in there praising an "RPG" whose core mechanic is based on making sandwiches. Sandwiches!!!

I no longer have anything in common with the place...
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Svenhelgrim on December 22, 2021, 07:37:59 AM
Quote from: Fighterboy on December 22, 2021, 05:19:42 AM
OK, actually it's old pretentious wankery at the Purple Place which has had new posts to bring it back to life, so if it's been discussed here before please accept my apologies!

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/paul-czege-on-the-wild-energy-of-the-itch-io-ttrpg-scene-or-my-life-with-itch.853603/ (https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/paul-czege-on-the-wild-energy-of-the-itch-io-ttrpg-scene-or-my-life-with-itch.853603/)

There's a post in there praising an "RPG" whose core mechanic is based on making sandwiches. Sandwiches!!!

I no longer have anything in common with the place...
Is it Thirsty Sword Lesbians: Second Edition? Because that would be the ultimate troll.
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Fighterboy on December 22, 2021, 08:47:51 AM
An "indie" game called Sandwich County, apparently (and I quote) it's "a solo game in which you make sandwiches, and the way you make the sandwich determines how you tell a story about visiting a fantasy land."
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Svenhelgrim on December 22, 2021, 10:17:22 AM
...and the GM gets to eat the sandwich? 

This could have potential. 

GM: "The way you clean my garage/mop the floors/do the dishes/wash and fold the clotes/shine my shoes/dust and vacuum my living room/wax my car, determines how you tell a story about visiting a fantasy land."
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Ghostmaker on December 22, 2021, 10:20:35 AM
I can't decide if this is serious or we're being epically trolled here. This is right up there with Feast of Legends (and at least that was done as a tongue-in-cheek marketing gimmick).
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Fighterboy on December 22, 2021, 10:36:37 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 22, 2021, 10:20:35 AM
I can't decide if this is serious or we're being epically trolled here. This is right up there with Feast of Legends (and at least that was done as a tongue-in-cheek marketing gimmick).

The initial recommendation to the site where these "games" are hosted came from Paul Czege, who gave us such indie "gems" as My Life With master and Nicotine Girls, which were apparently very popular at The Forge.

I wish I had the imagination to make this shit up, pal!  ;D
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Jason Coplen on December 23, 2021, 12:03:04 AM
Making sandwiches: the only for women rpg  ;)
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Jam The MF on December 23, 2021, 12:54:49 AM
When Chuck Norris attends a feminist rally; he comes back with his shirt ironed, and a sandwich.
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Spinachcat on December 23, 2021, 03:19:28 AM
1) Please link to this RPGing via Sandwich Making. This feels like an April Fools joke.

2) I don't believe the modern feminist is capable of making a good sandwich. Old school mamas? Hell yeah. 2020's blue hairs with metal bits in their face? No fucking way.

3) I'm a big fan of delis. Easily been to hundreds over the decades and the absolute best sandwiches have always been made by some burly dude with a questionable attitude toward humanity. If I'm looking for 2 inches thick of sliced pastrami on rye and a real dill pickle, I highly doubt any of the RPG.net freak brigade would be capable of such creation.
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Fighterboy on December 23, 2021, 03:30:30 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat on December 23, 2021, 03:19:28 AM
1) Please link to this RPGing via Sandwich Making. This feels like an April Fools joke.

I can do better than that...here's a full page of food-themed "games," including the aforementioned Sandwich County:

https://itch.io/jam/our-little-food-jam/entries

It looks like you have to register with itch.io to download anything, which I have no intention of doing, personally, but this stuff does seem to exist.
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Fighterboy on December 23, 2021, 03:42:12 AM
Except I couldn't help myself, I've registered with a spamtrap Gmail account to take a look...

It's...maybe a game to play with very young kids to make up stories while you're making lunch. Not a RPG by any measure - it's a story game. How do I request this post be moved to the proper forum please?

Still fucking mind boggling though!!
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Omega on December 23, 2021, 04:06:57 AM
Some years ago I came across a solo RPG where you advanced through a dungeon based on how many and what type of exercises you performed and how healthy you ate. Actually not a bad little game and a novel way to get people to exercise.

There was another where you were isolated in your room and had to survive by foraging for things around the house.
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: 3catcircus on December 23, 2021, 07:07:21 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat on December 23, 2021, 03:19:28 AM
2) I don't believe the modern feminist is capable of making a good sandwich. Old school mamas? Hell yeah. 2020's blue hairs with metal bits in their face? No fucking way.

Which one is she? Trudy, or Jody (the one with all the shit in her face)?

Sorry, couldn't resist the Pulp Fiction reference...

But, yeah - without fail all those blue hairs with the pussy hats wouldn't be caught eating... (GASP) meat (both figuratively and literally).  And there ain't no kinda sammich worth a damn if it don't have done type of dead animal flesh in it.
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: S'mon on December 23, 2021, 11:35:46 AM
IME the average blue hair is just desperate for some jackbooted Richard Spencer type to chain her to the kitchen counter and make her make him a sandwich. They're very different from old school lesbian feminists who are now called TERFS and classed as rather worse than Nazis.
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Rob Necronomicon on December 23, 2021, 01:06:30 PM
Quote from: Fighterboy on December 22, 2021, 08:47:51 AM
"a solo game in which you make sandwiches, and the way you make the sandwich determines how you tell a story about visiting a fantasy land."

What type of gonad would actually play such a piece of shit?
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: HappyDaze on December 23, 2021, 01:49:19 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on December 23, 2021, 01:06:30 PM
Quote from: Fighterboy on December 22, 2021, 08:47:51 AM
"a solo game in which you make sandwiches, and the way you make the sandwich determines how you tell a story about visiting a fantasy land."

What type of gonad would actually play such a piece of shit?
Anyone on the clock at Subway?
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: jhkim on December 23, 2021, 02:25:38 PM
Quote from: Omega on December 23, 2021, 04:06:57 AM
Some years ago I came across a solo RPG where you advanced through a dungeon based on how many and what type of exercises you performed and how healthy you ate. Actually not a bad little game and a novel way to get people to exercise.

There was another where you were isolated in your room and had to survive by foraging for things around the house.

Yeah. I've played plenty of short party games and/or story games over the years - some were fun, some not. The term "role-playing game" is used for anything from computer games from Nethack to Mass Effect, D&D, live-action games where you swing padded weapons, theater-like games, and eclectic solo games like the ones cited on Itch.

As Fighterboy says, this probably doesn't even belong in this forum, since this is for talking about traditional tabletop RPGs.
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Melan on December 23, 2021, 04:19:14 PM
I have been watching this, mainly from the old-school end. itch.io has definitely turned into a lab for experimenting with indie lefty weirdo LGBTUIOP games. This branch of "the OSR" has effectively turned itself into a new version of storygames by renouncing the old-school framework and just drifting out into weirdness.

I suspect there is a generational aspect to it; the difference being that the people involved in the Storygames community were theoretically informed (well, not the kind of theory that people here appreciate) and wanted to put that theory into practice, while the itch.io people mostly seem to be ignorant of that stuff, and want to work outwards from aesthetics. The aestheticcc is either tumblr-type cutesy artwork, or 1970s-to-1990s inspired graphic designery.

The supplements I have bought from there have mostly been trying to create or explore new forms and new ideas of gaming, but they just tend to flail around, or do surface-level copies of existing, functional game types. The end result is very cargo cultish in the sense that it is very high on aesthetics and utter incoherent weirdness, but completely lacking in craft. They have no stable, functional framework to carry the high-concept ideas they are supposed to be bringing to the table, so i. Most of them are undercooked thought experiments, and I suspect not many of them get actual play. There are occasional flashes of competence, but they are largely from people who already know what they were doing. The few gems are surrounded
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Hakdov on December 23, 2021, 10:57:21 PM
It might work if it were a rpg based on

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51oVJJk021L._SX347_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: PsyXypher on December 24, 2021, 12:22:45 AM
The Big Purple is a website about Tabletop RPGs (supposedly) that praises a terrorist group in its top line.

I don't know what you're expecting, but if it's sanity you need to lower your expectations.
Title: Re: What new pretentious wankery is this???
Post by: Shasarak on December 25, 2021, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: Fighterboy on December 22, 2021, 05:19:42 AM
OK, actually it's old pretentious wankery at the Purple Place which has had new posts to bring it back to life, so if it's been discussed here before please accept my apologies!

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/paul-czege-on-the-wild-energy-of-the-itch-io-ttrpg-scene-or-my-life-with-itch.853603/ (https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/paul-czege-on-the-wild-energy-of-the-itch-io-ttrpg-scene-or-my-life-with-itch.853603/)

There's a post in there praising an "RPG" whose core mechanic is based on making sandwiches. Sandwiches!!!

I no longer have anything in common with the place...

I would seriously eat the hell out of a Pizza RPG