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Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: K Peterson on December 28, 2012, 02:47:41 AM
There aren't many new RPGs that I purchase these days - usually I just pick up the occasional supplement for the systems I already own. Nor are there many release schedules that I follow with any attention. But one RPG-in-development did catch my eye a while ago: Warriors of the Red Planet (http://warriorsoftheredplanet.blogspot.com/).

A while ago... 2 years ago now since I subscribed to updates on this blog. I really enjoy Science-Fantasy and was intrigued by the class design decisions and art previews that have trickled out, erratically. I thought it was going to shape up to be a must-have.

But, damn, if this doesn't look like a product stuck in limbo these days - or maybe consigned to being vaporware. No blog updates for 3 months; not much of a presence on the blogs of the writer and artist; no responses to queries - through blog comments or emails. It's disappointing.
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: Bill on December 28, 2012, 11:39:47 AM
I am a huge fan of the John Carter of Mars books, so I hope to see rpg's made for that setting.  Hope that one gets off the ground.
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: The Butcher on December 28, 2012, 11:56:52 AM
WotRP looks good, thanks for the link.

I really, really wished that someone more well-versed in Barsoomiana than myself would do a D6 version, ideally hewing as close to the old D6 Star Wars as possible.

Nothing wrong with hacking any version of D&D (I'd use SWN because it's halfway there already) but I get the feeling sword-and-planet and the D6 system would be a great fit.
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: RPGPundit on December 29, 2012, 09:04:54 AM
I never heard of this, but the idea sure seems good!

RPGPundit
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: urbwar on December 29, 2012, 01:54:15 PM
There is also this (http://www.rpgnow.com/product/100712/Edgar-Rice-Burroughs%E2%80%99-Mars%3A-Shadows-of-a-Dying-World-%28An-OGL-Guide-to-Monsters%2C-Races%2C-and-Beasts%29) bestiary for 3rd edition that came out awhile ago. Wonder how compatible it might be with Warriors?
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: K Peterson on January 01, 2013, 11:39:35 AM
Quote from: urbwar;612682There is also this (http://www.rpgnow.com/product/100712/Edgar-Rice-Burroughs%E2%80%99-Mars%3A-Shadows-of-a-Dying-World-%28An-OGL-Guide-to-Monsters%2C-Races%2C-and-Beasts%29) bestiary for 3rd edition that came out awhile ago. Wonder how compatible it might be with Warriors?

It probably wouldn't be too challenging to tweak the d20 stats from this supplement to match up with OD&D-ish/S&W stats from WotRP. It appears that in WoRP they provide values for ascending and descending AC (http://warriorsoftheredplanet.blogspot.com/2012/01/plant-man.html).
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: K Peterson on January 01, 2013, 11:45:33 AM
Finally found/elicited an update on WotRP (http://s3.excoboard.com/Platemail/96384/1005698?page=1#8018810) from the art/layout guy. Couple more months to go to complete artwork and layout.
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: RPGPundit on January 03, 2013, 12:46:43 PM
This is quite interesting; you should see if you can get him to come here and post on theRPGsite about his game; I'm sure it would have a good reception.
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: K Peterson on January 03, 2013, 05:17:50 PM
Giving it a shot...
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: Planet Algol on January 03, 2013, 06:13:29 PM
Quote from: urbwar;612682There is also this (http://www.rpgnow.com/product/100712/Edgar-Rice-Burroughs%E2%80%99-Mars%3A-Shadows-of-a-Dying-World-%28An-OGL-Guide-to-Monsters%2C-Races%2C-and-Beasts%29) bestiary for 3rd edition that came out awhile ago. Wonder how compatible it might be with Warriors?
It's pretty easy to find D&D barsoon monster stats on the web; there's even an unofficial supplement or two.
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: Thor's Nads on January 03, 2013, 06:16:10 PM
Hello.

Yep, seriously working on finishing up WotRP. It was in limbo for a bit after the John Carter movie came out, not that it was a bad movie, but it was just "OK" (with some bits that were actually quite good). The source material was so great that the movie should have been at least really, really good - but really should have been great!

anyways, this took the wind out of my sails for the project for a bit. But I set a real deadline to get it done, so we'll have something for Dundracon 2013.

Glad to hear people are interested!

Check out the previews here: http://originaleditionfantasy.blogspot.com/search/label/mars (http://originaleditionfantasy.blogspot.com/search/label/mars)

thanks,
-td
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: Drohem on January 03, 2013, 06:20:30 PM
Welcome to the RPGSite!  K Peterson has gotten some of us here excited for the product by introducing your blog to us.  Best success with it! :)
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: RPGPundit on January 04, 2013, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: thomden;614345Hello.

Yep, seriously working on finishing up WotRP. It was in limbo for a bit after the John Carter movie came out, not that it was a bad movie, but it was just "OK" (with some bits that were actually quite good). The source material was so great that the movie should have been at least really, really good - but really should have been great!

anyways, this took the wind out of my sails for the project for a bit. But I set a real deadline to get it done, so we'll have something for Dundracon 2013.

Glad to hear people are interested!

Check out the previews here: http://originaleditionfantasy.blogspot.com/search/label/mars (http://originaleditionfantasy.blogspot.com/search/label/mars)

thanks,
-td

Awesome, welcome to theRPGsite! Hope you'll stick around...

RPGPundit
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: Thor's Nads on October 21, 2014, 03:53:35 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;614655Awesome, welcome to theRPGsite! Hope you'll stick around...

RPGPundit

Yes, I lurk from time to time, I really should post more often!

Now that Warriors of the Red Planet (http://www.lulu.com/shop/thomas-denmark-and-al-krombach/warriors-of-the-red-planet/paperback/product-21694686.html) is available, I'll probably spend more time talking it up.
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: Thor's Nads on October 21, 2014, 03:56:51 AM
I wrote an adventure for Warriors of the Red Planet (http://www.lulu.com/shop/thomas-denmark-and-al-krombach/warriors-of-the-red-planet/paperback/product-21694686.html) to run at Big Bad Con (http://www.bigbadcon.com/) over the weekend. It was a good time, the players - as players tend to do - did unexpected and very clever things.

The adventure was designed "sandbox" style, not as a railroad. So it is more like an adventure location, than a linear adventure. Though it does have a series of events that happen roughly in order. There are some Lovecraftian influences, quite a bit of Gygax (Forgotten Temple of Tharizdun to be exact), and of course plenty of Burroughs.

The player's managed to avoid the final encounter and the big aerial battle at the end I was planning on, so it ended about a half hour earlier then intended. I collected the playtest notes and am in the process of incorporating them, and tightening up the adventure all around.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vLMGnLxEyd0/VEYOKCjvGVI/AAAAAAAADJI/_NzoqHdwVD8/w396-h612-no/MechanizedMen_cover-1%2Bcopya.jpg)
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: Gronan of Simmerya on October 21, 2014, 04:22:13 AM
Sword and Planet is always good!
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: S'mon on October 21, 2014, 05:01:59 AM
Let me know when this adventure is available to buy, preferably hardcopy (Lulu?). :cool:

Edit: Just checked WoTRP on Lulu - can you set it up for European printing? The £9 shipping cost from North America is painful on an £11.49 book.

Also, Warriors of the Red Planet does not show up on a Search of Lulu - http://www.lulu.com/shop/search.ep?keyWords=%22Warriors+of+the+Red+Planet%22&sorter=relevance-desc - I was checking if a pdf might be available.
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: YourSwordisMine on October 21, 2014, 07:39:32 AM
http://www.lulu.com/shop/thomas-denmark-and-al-krombach/warriors-of-the-red-planet/paperback/product-21694686.html (http://www.lulu.com/shop/thomas-denmark-and-al-krombach/warriors-of-the-red-planet/paperback/product-21694686.html)


"inspired by the works of Burroughs, Vance, Moorcock, Kline, Norman and others."

Uh... You kind of lost me there...
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: Thor's Nads on October 22, 2014, 01:31:49 AM
Quote from: YourSwordisMine;793137"inspired by the works of Burroughs, Vance, Moorcock, Kline, Norman and others."

Uh... You kind of lost me there...

I read the Gor books before the Mars (Barsoom) books in high school and enjoyed the first few, but yeah, in hindsight they're pretty terrible. However, they are an established part of the genre and it would be an oversight to not include some references to them. Though you'd be hard pressed to find exactly where in WotRP unless you knew specifically what to look for.
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: Molotov on October 22, 2014, 02:19:28 AM
Quote from: thomden;793123I wrote an adventure for Warriors of the Red Planet (http://www.lulu.com/shop/thomas-denmark-and-al-krombach/warriors-of-the-red-planet/paperback/product-21694686.html) to run at Big Bad Con (http://www.bigbadcon.com/) over the weekend. It was a good time, the players - as players tend to do - did unexpected and very clever things.

The adventure was designed "sandbox" style, not as a railroad. So it is more like an adventure location, than a linear adventure. Though it does have a series of events that happen roughly in order. There are some Lovecraftian influences, quite a bit of Gygax (Forgotten Temple of Tharizdun to be exact), and of course plenty of Burroughs.

The player's managed to avoid the final encounter and the big aerial battle at the end I was planning on, so it ended about a half hour earlier then intended. I collected the playtest notes and am in the process of incorporating them, and tightening up the adventure all around.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vLMGnLxEyd0/VEYOKCjvGVI/AAAAAAAADJI/_NzoqHdwVD8/w396-h612-no/MechanizedMen_cover-1%2Bcopya.jpg)
Sweet! I look forward to it.

I had a great time running Warriors of the Red Planet at Big Bad Con as well. Was cool to run into you for a few moments in passing, Thomas. :)
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: Simlasa on October 22, 2014, 02:56:15 AM
Quote from: thomden;793298I read the Gor books before the Mars (Barsoom) books in high school and enjoyed the first few, but yeah, in hindsight they're pretty terrible. However, they are an established part of the genre and it would be an oversight to not include some references to them. Though you'd be hard pressed to find exactly where in WotRP unless you knew specifically what to look for.
Like maybe the cover image of your adventure?:)
(which of course could easily suit most ERB stories as well... except for the robot/armored guy)
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: Simon W on October 22, 2014, 01:43:52 PM
Quote from: S'mon;793126Let me know when this adventure is available to buy, preferably hardcopy (Lulu?). :cool:

Edit: Just checked WoTRP on Lulu - can you set it up for European printing? The £9 shipping cost from North America is painful on an £11.49 book.

Also, Warriors of the Red Planet does not show up on a Search of Lulu - http://www.lulu.com/shop/search.ep?keyWords=%22Warriors+of+the+Red+Planet%22&sorter=relevance-desc - I was checking if a pdf might be available.

I picked up the beta a few weeks ago when it was about £3-something and got it on a 25% discount sale too. Even then  I balked at paying the shipping to the UK, but not so painful as it is now at now at £11+ shipping (it certainly isn't worth £20 but I was happy paying about £12)
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: trechriron on October 22, 2014, 01:49:33 PM
Why no PDF?

Why not use One Book Shelf for PDF and POD?
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: Thor's Nads on October 31, 2014, 04:07:36 AM
Quote from: trechriron;793396Why no PDF?

Why not use One Book Shelf for PDF and POD?

Soon. Though PDF's do end up on every file share site shortly after being made available.
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: S'mon on October 31, 2014, 04:38:58 AM
Quote from: thomden;795291Soon. Though PDF's do end up on every file share site shortly after being made available.

Please at least upload the printed version to Euro-Lulu (that's in Alabama).
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: Thor's Nads on November 12, 2014, 03:12:37 AM
Quote from: S'mon;795297Please at least upload the printed version to Euro-Lulu (that's in Alabama).

Hmm, I've looked through the options at Lulu, but cannot figure out how to create a Euro offering there. Any suggestions are appreciated.
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: Simon W on November 12, 2014, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: thomden;798110Hmm, I've looked through the options at Lulu, but cannot figure out how to create a Euro offering there. Any suggestions are appreciated.

I've got a feeling that certain paper type/book size combinations are only available in the US, hence they're shipped from there.
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: trechriron on November 12, 2014, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: thomden;795291Soon. Though PDF's do end up on every file share site shortly after being made available.

Us enthusiasts find things we like and support them with our cash. The thieves will be thieves and there's not much you can do to stop them (they will take apart a book and scan it page by page...).

OBS does allow you to watermark the PDF, which may tell you WHO is sharing your stuff, but are you going to track 'em down? :-) Mostly it's like a door lock. It prevents honest people from being dumb but otherwise it's a gentle reminder to be cool. :-)

It's better to make things widely available and net more real customers IMHO.
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: S'mon on November 12, 2014, 06:51:01 PM
Quote from: Simon W;798170I've got a feeling that certain paper type/book size combinations are only available in the US, hence they're shipped from there.

so if he created it in A4 or A5 format he could get European printing?
Title: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: JeremyR on November 12, 2014, 09:02:41 PM
Quote from: trechriron;798175Us enthusiasts find things we like and support them with our cash. The thieves will be thieves and there's not much you can do to stop them (they will take apart a book and scan it page by page...).

OBS does allow you to watermark the PDF, which may tell you WHO is sharing your stuff, but are you going to track 'em down? :-) Mostly it's like a door lock. It prevents honest people from being dumb but otherwise it's a gentle reminder to be cool. :-)

It's better to make things widely available and net more real customers IMHO.

Apparently it takes a fair amount of effort to de-watermark stuff. Apparently you have to convert the PDF to pictures, remove the watermarks manually from each page with a paint program, and then re-OCR it and turn it back into a PDF.

I don't think many people can do that, much less are willing to do it. Certainly you lose more customers not having a PDF and only print than by having a PDF and potentially losing some to piracy.
Title: Re: Warriors of the Red Planet
Post by: Thor's Nads on April 20, 2021, 04:04:59 AM
Quote from: thomden on October 21, 2014, 03:53:35 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;614655Awesome, welcome to theRPGsite! Hope you'll stick around...

RPGPundit

Yes, I lurk from time to time, I really should post more often!

Now that Warriors of the Red Planet (http://www.lulu.com/shop/thomas-denmark-and-al-krombach/warriors-of-the-red-planet/paperback/product-21694686.html) is available, I'll probably spend more time talking it up.

Damn, looking at the dates here. I'm the slowest mo-fo. I start these projects and next thing I know 5 years slips by.