the Brettonia book is in the psot to me as we speak.

The middenheim "use this skill" bits are stupid, but you just work around that. People seem to expect pre-done adventures to be perfect when there's just no way to predict what a party will do. No adventure is ever 100% perfect.

Having now read Ashes of Middenmeim I'm not sure what everyone hates about it.

I mean, it's not a work of art or anything, but it's certainly not bad.

The only bit that really bugged me is the all too common "Authority Figure wants you to do the job that others are more qualified for".

I mean come on: the only force remngin in Middenheim is the City Watch, and the Captin of the Watch (noted as being particularly fussy about the Watch) wants a bunch of scumbags to do the job of hois Watchmen?

That has to go.

I do love the format of "First half of the Adventure is a setting guide" they are using though.

Quote from: Teflon BillyHaving now read Ashes of Middenmeim I'm not sure what everyone hates about it.

Having finished it this afternoon, I kinda see what people hate about it. I changed lots fo stuff but didn't do enough work toward the end to fix it.

a) There are at least three major railroads in it that really frustrated my players.

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When they get arrested with the book, when the trial goes south no mater how good the RPing of the trial is and when the demon automatically appears at the end despite how well the PCs fight against Leibernitz et al

b) It's enemy of the week-a-rama

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Khorne Cultists, Tzeench Cultists, Skaven oh my!

I changed a lot of these elements by

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replacing the skaven with a mad human assasin in love the the Ulric priest, getting rid of the purple hand guys and the like

c) It's really badly organised. There's no real summary, the descriptions of how to make the

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Colegium Theologica interesting are at the very end when the PCs have to go there right at the begininning

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d) finally, as you mentioned, why are some scum bags being hired to do the work fo the watch? This is actually the easiest thing to handle in my opinion - because the watch are stretched to fuck. I left that in.

We had a lot of fun in the earlier stages, but as the railroads kicked in and I forgot to think about some of the plot elements I changed it became less fun.

I am really looking forward to the Altdorf one however.

If you can find them pick some of the old resource books. They are hard to find, but well worth getting.

I recommend Middenheim and Marenburg, both great city Gazateers, loaded with great NPC's, Minor and Major Plots and adventuer hooks. Also pick up either the Doomstones Campaign or the Power Behind the Throne Campaign both are great.