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Warhammer 3e: Goodbye, and thanks for all the fish

Started by Rincewind1, August 13, 2014, 11:24:15 AM

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Spinachcat

I am looking forward to more FFG boardgames for Warhammer. I would love some Dark Heresy boardgames. More 40k boardgames!!!

Of course, for WFRP fans, there is ZWEIHANDER!!! (hopefully)

If you haven't heard about it...check it out.
http://grimandperilous.com/

Gabriel2

I figured this was coming.  I was hoping an announcement like this would take a while longer before appearring, because there are still a few things I'd like to pick up for the game before the line being officially discontinued caused things to shoot up in price.  Luckily, I've got the core almost entirely out of the way, and all I have left are a few adventures which I can honestly do without.

Since FFG got Star Wars, their agreement with GW has meant less and less.  Talisman looks to be wrapping up with the fourth corner board expansion being released soon, and that will effectively "complete" the game.  WHFRP is done, and I doubt with Star Wars doing so well that they'll do a new edition.  The various WH/WH40K card games seem to have dried up in favor of their Star Wars themed equivalents.  Dark Heresy 2e seems more like a last gasp type of thing, but that remains to be seen.

If a bitless but special dice revision of WHFRP appears, it might be with the Descent/Runebound universe, but I doubt that will happen either.
 

Crabbyapples

Quote from: Gabriel2;779340The various WH/WH40K card games seem to have dried up in favor of their Star Wars themed equivalents.  Dark Heresy 2e seems more like a last gasp type of thing, but that remains to be seen.

I would agree with everything except Warhammer 40k being neglected. A new card game is being released and Dark Heresy 2e is coming down the pipeline. The profits are with 40k and not Warhammer Fantasy. Which is a damn shame, as I see it WHFRP being much more roleplaying friendly.

Ladybird

I reckon they'd be mad to announce WFRP 4 this year, there's been another big fantasy RPG release recently that is basically going to dominate the genre for a while.

And given that Nagash is currently scheduled to return to Warhammer to do something doubtless unpleasant, any game would quickly be out-of-date with the new fluff, and I doubt GW would let anyone announce anything post-Nagash before they announce their Nagash thing properly officially. So, next year, maybe; if the shake-up is as big as has been rumoured, there would be a lot of potential for new material without just republishing the same books again.

Quote from: Skywalker;779314I wouldn't be surprised to see a WFRP 4e done like Star Wars, with just the dice. Maybe split into three for low end traditional WFRP, to the previous unseen super-heroic stuff.

I once heard a rumour of a WFRP character who could tie HIS OWN shoelaces, 73% of the time.
one two FUCK YOU

Skywalker

Quote from: Ladybird;779345I reckon they'd be mad to announce WFRP 4 this year, there's been another big fantasy RPG release recently that is basically going to dominate the genre for a while.

Haha! Yus :)

Quote from: Ladybird;779345I once heard a rumour of a WFRP character who could tie HIS OWN shoelaces, 73% of the time.

Yeah, it shows even a rubbish GM can destroy an RPG as good WRFP ;)

jadrax

Quote from: Ladybird;779345I once heard a rumour of a WFRP character who could tie HIS OWN shoelaces, 73% of the time.

That lie was debunked years ago; there is no way a WFRP character will ever be able to afford to wear shoes...

darnest

Quote from: Warboss Squee;779318I might actually buy it then.
Well today is yours and the other who were asking for such a release, lucky day.

They did it 2 years ago...

The players guide
http://www.amazon.com/Warhammer-Fantasy-Roleplay-Players-Guide/dp/1589947401/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407968104&sr=8-1&keywords=warhammer+fantasy+players+guide

The GMs Guide
http://www.amazon.com/Warhammer-Fantasy-Roleplay-Masters-Guide/dp/158994724X/ref=pd_sim_t_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=19NF6JFPCT5QR66409G1

The Creatures guide
http://www.amazon.com/Warhammer-Fantasy-Roleplay-Creature-Guide/dp/1589947045/ref=pd_bxgy_t_text_y

You can get all the expansions in PDF form from DTRPG
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/90381/Warhammer-Fantasy-Roleplay-Omens-of-War?term=Warhammer+

and then just use paper ignore th fiddly bits and stuff.  Granted some of the expansion information is on cards you wont get,  but the PDFs gets you 85% or so of what you need to play.  

As for third I have been playing it since it came out and we have and continue to have a blast playing.  Talking about starting a second group up as well over skype or G+.  The dice mechanics make for such a deep and fun role play experience, all my players are way deep in character. We have had a dwarf almost go over to khorne just to get the power he wanted to destroy some skaven.  We have a player who started as a gambler and is now building a criminal empire.  The entire party has been pulled into intrigue with the church, witch hunters and the nobility of the empire.  We have had one combat were they were all laid out, several have scars and have had chances to lose limbs, but through good role play and the party working together they saved the limb.  
Its not 1e or 2e,  but its fun. The dice give many opportunities to role play and expand the stories.  The Warhammer mythos are as deep and the corruption, fatigue and stress mechanics are as big a threat as taking a wound.  There are so many ways to wound a character and they even make the choice to take the fatigue or stress cause its what their character would do.  
Its not perfect but, I will play it with my kids in a few years, cause its Warhammer and I not water it down just cause they are 8, we can play numeneria until then.

flyingcircus

#37
Quote from: Snowman0147;779296Here is the thing that people have to figure out.  RPGs must/need to run on just book, paper & pencil, and normal number dice.  The moment you add in more the more cost you add to yourself and the more investment your asking from the players.  Many players do not want to invest a lot into their gaming in order to learn what your fancy dice and cards do.  That is why Warhammer Fantasy 3rd edition failed.  It ask to much and alienated people.

It alienated people because gamer's are DICK HOLES plain and simple, they are caught up in their never changing world of don't fix or change my game Bullshit that when a new system for doing something comes along that is really innovative and fun, they would rather throw stones at it than try it out.  I say fuck all of em' anyhow.  I don't like most gamer's and they don't like me and I don't give a flying rats ass either.  I've met miniature war game players with more inclination to try a new system than a RPGer, thats why the RPG market is so damn small and getting smaller by the month.  As far as dice, you don't have a damn clue, I have all kinds of dice from the last 30 years of all different styles and sizes for many different games, if we stuck to your logic, then NORMAL would mean the only fuckin' die allowed today by your statement would be the d6!
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Snowman0147

#38
Seriously how about you guys accept the fact that majority of people didn't like the third edition and thus they didn't buy it.  Bitching at people that like other systems isn't making you look good.  It makes you look like a whiny child that didn't get any ice cream.

Edit:  Wow the guy must had deleted his post.  Still I think my statement still stands.

Simlasa

Quote from: Ladybird;779345I reckon they'd be mad to announce WFRP 4 this year, there's been another big fantasy RPG release recently that is basically going to dominate the genre for a while.
Oh! That DOES look fun!

Skywalker

#40
Quote from: darnest;779356They did it 2 years ago...

No, they didn't. The material was packed together in book form but the result wasn't that great or comprehensive the way the Star Wars RPG is. It ended up as a "poor man's" version of the game. And the approach wasn't expanded on in the supplements.

I could see a market for a WFRP done in the manner of the Star Wars RPGs.

Skywalker

Quote from: Simlasa;779362Oh! That DOES look fun!

I run it for my two daughters and it is indeed fun: http://www.therpgsite.com/showpost.php?p=756177&postcount=125

Warthur

Quote from: Warboss Squee;779231This. I thought the line had already died, seeing as I never see any chatter about it.

According to 3E fan forums basically nothing except reprints has come out for the last 2-3 years so I think we could all be forgiven for assuming the thing died long ago.
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The Butcher

How did they handle the setting?

I like 2e well enough as far as system goes but the whole "OMG Storm of Chaos!!!!!1!!1!1!!1one" minature game event tie-in felt kind of tacked on. "WFRP 2e, now with Twice The Grimdark!"

Next time I run it I'm taking the hex map from The Enemy Within and populating it with stuff from all over 1e and 2e. Drachenfels, Lichemaster, the works.

Haffrung

Quote from: Snowman0147;779360Seriously how about you guys accept the fact that majority of people didn't like the third edition and thus they didn't buy it.

Who are 'the majority of people?' The majority of existing players? You're probably right, but I'm guessing a majority of people who played 3E had never played WFRP before at all.

This notion that the RPG market is a fixed group of people who have been playing for 15+ years is one of the weirder memes on RPG forums. If that were really the case, commercial publishers the size of WotC and FFG would have dropped out of RPGs long ago to focus on more lucrative sectors of the gaming industry.