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Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: GameDaddy on January 20, 2014, 07:35:18 PM
allows Dame Judi Dench to run the game as DM! She's now GMIng for her grand kids at home. How cool is that??!!!

From a recent Interview during the filming of Riddick;
http://www.vin-diesel.us/press/vin-diesel-of-the-chronicles-of-riddick-universal-interview/

Special thanks to Mirai on Twitter for the link to the original Interview!
https://twitter.com/theMirai/status/425015655973138433

His lack of GMing (or playing) is obviously only temporary...
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: The Butcher on January 20, 2014, 07:55:23 PM
This is so fucking awesome it doesn't even need to be true. But apparently it is.

Imagine Dame Judi Fucking Dench as your DM. :cool:
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: The Traveller on January 20, 2014, 08:04:56 PM
No, no, this is all wrong. Everyone knows RPGers are introverted fatbeards mouldering away in their parents' basement somewhere. It's impossible that an international sex icon and action hero could ever be an RPGer.

Impossible I say!
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 20, 2014, 08:07:31 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;725143This is so fucking awesome it doesn't even need to be true. But apparently it is.

Imagine Dame Judi Fucking Dench as your DM. :cool:

She could be Alec Guinness for all I'd care, if she'd railroad me at all times I'd still leave ;).
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: daniel_ream on January 20, 2014, 08:07:35 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;725143Imagine Dame Judi Fucking Dench as your DM. :cool:

Screw Dungeon Mastering, I want her to run James Bond 007.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: GameDaddy on January 20, 2014, 08:09:58 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;725143This is so fucking awesome it doesn't even need to be true. But apparently it is.

Imagine Dame Judi Fucking Dench as your DM. :cool:

HHHrrrm???? Yes, she shares with you (and plenty of other folks as well!) her enjoyment of profanity for profanities sake!

Ten things I did not know before...
http://groupthink.jezebel.com/tonight-in-things-i-did-not-know-before-513650758

Dame Dench's diary:

March 13: Wrapped filming in France. 11 fucks given.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Opaopajr on January 20, 2014, 08:13:13 PM
Quote from: The Traveller;725147No, no, this is all wrong. Everyone knows RPGers are introverted fatbeards mouldering away in their parents' basement somewhere. It's impossible that an international sex icon and action hero could ever be an RPGer.

I know! I mean international sex icon Dame Judi Dench AND action hero Vin Diesel at the same table?
:cheerleader:
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: The Traveller on January 20, 2014, 08:28:58 PM
Quote from: Opaopajr;725154I know! I mean international sex icon Dame Judi Dench AND action hero Vin Diesel at the same table?
:cheerleader:
Damn right. I would pay a Lot Of Money to watch that game.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: daniel_ream on January 20, 2014, 08:32:37 PM
Quote from: Opaopajr;725154I know! I mean international sex icon Dame Judi Dench AND action hero Vin Diesel at the same table?
:cheerleader:

(http://www.gamerfellowship.org/images/nathansocal.jpg)

Nathan Fillion, playing Captain Malcolm Reynolds in a Firefly event at GenCon SoCal.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Skywalker on January 20, 2014, 08:33:55 PM
Quote from: daniel_ream;725163Nathan Fillion, playing Captain Malcolm Reynolds in a Firefly event at GenCon SoCal.

I thought he actually played River in that game.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Bradford C. Walker on January 20, 2014, 08:34:46 PM
Quote from: Skywalker;725164I thought he actually played River in that game.

He did.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: daniel_ream on January 20, 2014, 08:36:06 PM
My bad; the site I found the photo on was mistaken.

I'm not sure if that's more or less awesome.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Skywalker on January 20, 2014, 08:48:33 PM
Quote from: daniel_ream;725167I'm not sure if that's more or less awesome.

So much more awesome. :)
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Black Vulmea on January 20, 2014, 08:58:58 PM
Quote from: daniel_ream;725151Screw Dungeon Mastering, I want her to run James Bond 007.
Serio.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Spinachcat on January 20, 2014, 10:40:14 PM
Denys Mordred / Ian Noble was the GM of that Firefly session. He's posted here a few times. You can PM him here or on RPGnet for more details on that GenCon game. I forget which name he uses on which forum.

Nathan taught the players a bunch of Chinese curse words, but damn imagine the pressure on the gamer playing Captain Mal.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Daztur on January 20, 2014, 10:57:07 PM
Actually I think that sort of thing could make a decently-popular cable show. It'd be dirt cheap to make as all you'd need to pay would be salaries to a few celebs for just a few hours of work (so you wouldn't need much of an audience to break even) and I think people would tune in, "random celebrities hang out, chat and do mundane stuff" is a popular genre of television here in South Korea and I think that people in the US are celebrity-obsessed enough to get a sustainable audience for that sort of thing if you could get a few celebs to go along with it and edit it  intelligently.

Dumber things have been made into reality shows, far far far dumber things.
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Post by: Bradford C. Walker on January 20, 2014, 11:34:48 PM
Quote from: Daztur;725191Actually I think that sort of thing could make a decently-popular cable show. It'd be dirt cheap to make as all you'd need to pay would be salaries to a few celebs for just a few hours of work (so you wouldn't need much of an audience to break even) and I think people would tune in, "random celebrities hang out, chat and do mundane stuff" is a popular genre of television here in South Korea and I think that people in the US are celebrity-obsessed enough to get a sustainable audience for that sort of thing if you could get a few celebs to go along with it and edit it  intelligently.

Dumber things have been made into reality shows, far far far dumber things.
If it's that cheap, do it on YouTube.  We already have proof-of-concept with Tabletop's two episodes on Dragon Age.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: flyerfan1991 on January 21, 2014, 12:00:16 AM
I saw in the interview where he was playing D&D with Judi Dench and Karl Urban, but I didn't see anything about Dame Judi DMing with her grandkids.

Still, if she were to DM, that'd be really cool, like how she embroiders swear words during movie shoots.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Opaopajr on January 21, 2014, 02:06:12 AM
I want to play Changeling: the Dreaming with Andy Dick, Anne Heche, Sean Young, and Louie C.K. (things are funnier with a comedic straight-man). First edition.

edit: oooh, and maybe Dennis Rodman or Chris Tucker, too!
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Dirk Remmecke on January 21, 2014, 06:04:50 AM
Quote from: GameDaddy;725142allows Dame Judi Dench to run the game as DM! She's now GMIng for her grand kids at home. How cool is that??!!!

Ok, I have to ask. I reread both links several times but I can't find quotes or sources for
Maybe I am just blind...

Also, that "recent" Chronicles of Riddick interview is relatively old, it's from the time of the second Riddick movie (2004). And the Judi Dench info from it had made the rounds at that time, as well.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Exploderwizard on January 21, 2014, 07:49:54 AM
As I remember hearing the story originally, Vin almost convinced Judi Dench to pick up the dice and play during the filming of Riddick.

I remember part of a talk show where he said that.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Maese Mateo on January 21, 2014, 12:56:44 PM
Quote from: Dirk Remmecke;725248
  • Dame Judi Dench GMing for her grand kids
Second link:

"Judi Dench learned Dungeons and Dragons from...Vin Diesel. And DM's for her grandkids now. Well, that's the best thing I'll hear all month."

Of course this is a random comment on Twitter, so it may not be true.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: flyerfan1991 on January 21, 2014, 01:37:32 PM
Quote from: Maese Mateo;725291Second link:

"Judi Dench learned Dungeons and Dragons from...Vin Diesel. And DM's for her grandkids now. Well, that's the best thing I'll hear all month."

Of course this is a random comment on Twitter, so it may not be true.

Right.  The info does say in the Vin Diesel interview that they played, but not that she DM-ed.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Sacrosanct on January 21, 2014, 01:46:51 PM
Tim Duncan is the other surprise big name celebrity gamer besides Vin.  But I think the biggest surprise that I've heard is Michelle Malkin.  Really surprised she games too.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: flyerfan1991 on January 21, 2014, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;725300Tim Duncan is the other surprise big name celebrity gamer besides Vin.  But I think the biggest surprise that I've heard is Michelle Malkin.  Really surprised she games too.

Tim Duncan actually doesn't surprise me very much.  I've heard enough interviews from him over the years, and he always presented himself as a pretty smart guy.  Andrew Luck has also mentioned in interviews that he plays Settlers of Catan.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: jeff37923 on January 21, 2014, 02:44:14 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;725300But I think the biggest surprise that I've heard is Michelle Malkin.  Really surprised she games too.

Why is that such a surprise?
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Sacrosanct on January 21, 2014, 03:54:20 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;725328Why is that such a surprise?

Because playing D&D isn't exactly an activity encouraged by the far religious right.  That's why it's surprising.

And I suppose this  (http://clubjade.net/?p=12316)is the quote, although the youtube link isn't working anymore

QuoteI mean, I was literally playing Dungeons and Dragons with Judi Dench and Karl Urban at nights after shooting. I will tell you that I was showing her Dungeons and Dragons books and showing her the different properties of Elementals. Call me crazy.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Bedrockbrendan on January 21, 2014, 03:59:49 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;725349Because playing D&D isn't exactly an activity encouraged by the far religious right.  That's why it's surprising.

And I suppose this  (http://clubjade.net/?p=12316)is the quote, although the youtube link isn't working anymore

Yeah but i hear she plays mainly with fiscal conservatives and Neo-cons like Karl Rove.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Black Vulmea on January 21, 2014, 04:16:53 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;725300Really surprised she games too.
She lives in a self-concocted fantasy world of monsters and evil conspiracies, so I don't find it all that surprising.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: flyerfan1991 on January 21, 2014, 04:37:41 PM
Quote from: Black Vulmea;725353She lives in a self-concocted fantasy world of monsters and evil conspiracies, so I don't find it all that surprising.

/applause

You sir, have the zinger of the day.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: jeff37923 on January 21, 2014, 05:36:29 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;725349Because playing D&D isn't exactly an activity encouraged by the far religious right.  That's why it's surprising.

I'd love to see your proof that Michelle Malkin is a member of the Far Religious Right, but you're the same guy who claims that all Conservatives are racists.

Just tell me, should playing D&D only be allowed to be played by certain specific political affiliations or should all people be allowed to play the game?
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Sacrosanct on January 21, 2014, 05:39:08 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;725368I'd love to see your proof that Michelle Malkin is a member of the Far Religious Right, but you're the same guy who claims that all Conservatives are racists.


Prove I said that.

Seriously Jeff, I'm about done with patience with you.  Put up, or shut up with this bullshit nonsense.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Bedrockbrendan on January 21, 2014, 05:47:56 PM
Can we talk RPGs and not politics.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: jeff37923 on January 21, 2014, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;725371Can we talk RPGs and not politics.

Love to, but the subject was brought up in what was otherwise a pretty cool thread.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: jeff37923 on January 21, 2014, 06:01:41 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;725369Prove I said that.

Seriously Jeff, I'm about done with patience with you.  Put up, or shut up with this bullshit nonsense.

What's wrong, tough guy. Hate being called on your own crap?
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Sacrosanct on January 21, 2014, 06:15:45 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;725377Love to, but the subject was brought up in what was otherwise a pretty cool thread.

All I mentioned was a list of people who played D&D that surprised me.  I made no commentary on my feelings of her politics one way or the other.

Quote from: jeff37923;725379What's wrong, tough guy. Hate being called on your own crap?

So that's a "no" then?  You can't remotely provide a link showing I said something which I know i never did and you're just making things up.  Again.

Sorry Brendan, but I won't mention this again until he can provide a link of me saying anything like that.  But don't worry, that won't happen.  Because it doesn't exist.  And hopefully we can continue to talk about games.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: One Horse Town on January 21, 2014, 06:41:42 PM
Take it to PM, you're boring sensible folk.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: jeff37923 on January 21, 2014, 06:42:54 PM
OK, will do.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: jeff37923 on January 21, 2014, 10:44:40 PM
Since I threadcrapped, here's a partial list of famous people who also play D&D.


1. Stephen Colbert (also went to Gen Con (a dnd/comic/roleplaying convention))
2. Vin Diesel (Wrote the introduction to a book about DnD)
3. Mike Myers
4. Dwayne Johnson AKA The Rock
5. Matt Groening
6. Dame Judy Dench (Introduced to the game by Vin Diesal)
7. Jenny McCarthy
8. -=Edited out cause I was wrong.=-
9. Edwin McCain (Not sure if he still does but did when he was a kid)
10. Wil Wheaton (played on the set of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Still plays to this day)
11. Daryl Hannah
12. Robin Williams (Plays both the Online DnD Game and the Tabletop one)
13. Lexa Doig AKA Rommie and the computer AI from Andromeda
14. Ben Aflac (Forced to play by Kevin Smith on a set once and fell in love. Prefers to play Wizards over fighters.)
15. Mat Damon (Forced to play by Kevin Smith on a set once and fell in love. Prefers to play Fighters over Wizards.)
16. Matthew Lillard (Said so on G4's attack of the show then stole all of thier D&D Minatures Models)
17. Jon Stewart (He also sneaks sutile D&D jokes into his show that only us D&D nerds get to laugh at.)
18. Jim Breuer
19. Brian Warner AKA Marilyn Manson
20. John Carmack and a good portion of the original id Software crew (Some of the characters and story elements in Quake were based off of D&D session iirc)
21. Sebastian Bengtsson
22. Joakim Bengtsson
23. Robert P. Olsson
24. Björn-Erik Karlsson
25. Daniel Antonsson
26. Tommy Karlsson
27. Kevin Smith (Can't I forgot him until now)
28. Eddie Izzard
29. Johnny Vaughn
30. Michael Greco
31. Dave Gorman
32. Charles Manson (He actually ran a game in prision! That is to say until California banned the running of Tabletop RPGs in prision.(This might actually be just a rumor but I don't mind))
33. Scott Edgar (Found the actual quotes! "I also play Dungeons and Dragons with my mates, which everyone reckons is tragic, but I reckon is heaps of fun.")
34. Jon Favreau (Another one with a quote! "I'm a very lazy person by nature. I have to be really engaged, and then I go straight from lazy to obsessive. I couldn't study chemistry, but I could memorize all the books for Dungeons and Dragons. It was ridiculous.")
35. Curt Schilling from, I think, the Red Sox or at least use to be.
36. Todd Pratt from, I think, the Braves or at least use to be.
37. Jimmy Wales (One of the starters of Wikipedia)
38. Jacques Villeneuve (Use to drive race cars. Ironicly he prefers to play Monks in D&D which move faster then all other characters)
39. Rivers Cuomo from Weezer and, it is rumored at least, the rest of the band.
40. Everyone in Marcy's Playground (They even wrote a song called "A Cloak of Elvenkind" Which is a Major Magical Item in Dungeons and Dragons)
41. Everyone in Flashlight Brown (They even wrote a song called "Ready to Roll" which references 20-Sided Dice and A LOT of other D&D related things)
42. Gary Gygax (He was famous enough to play a character on Futurama(himself) so I put him on the list)
43. Seth Greene (Even made a Robot Chicken episode that refenerced THAC0 which was part of the Advance DND (or 2nd Edition) rule set)
44. Trey Parker
45. Matt Stone
46. Patton Oswalt (even talked the Reno 911 guys into doing a DnD part on the show. It was very funny)
47. Stephen King (And certain things from dnd are referenced in The Dark Tower series)
48. Steve Rune Lundin AKA Steven Erikson
49. Joss Whedon (Director of Buffy The Vampire Slayer)
50. Jack Black (He also references DND in the song "Wonderboy")
The following people stole DnD stuff from the teen choice awards. I included pictures when I could find them:
51. Ryan Cabrera
52. Nick Cannon
53. Jon Heder
54. Jesse McCartney (http://i5.tinypic.com/477z19v.jpg)
55. David Boreanaz
56. Lauren Graham (http://i4.tinypic.com/2uhq1dk.jpg)
57. Hulk Hogan (http://i7.tinypic.com/2mzlevt.jpg)

58. Metallica (At least they played Call of Cthulhu and Dungeon and Dragons before Hetfield went into rehab)
59. Conan O'Brian (Use to play at least. He has mentioned it on his show)
60. Darby Conley (though he is C-List at best)
61. Andrew W.K.
62. The band Amon Amarth (Can I get a Wha wha from all my metalheads?)
63. My Chemical Romance (They played with Thrice during the Vans Warp Tour. My Chemical Romance's lead singer Gerard Way plays a Half-Elf Ranger)
64. Thrice (Played with My Chemical Romance during the Vans Warp Tour.)
65. Alice Cooper Played D&D (And even replayed the events of a game on an episode of That 70's Show)
66. Some/All of Barenaked Ladies
67. Raymond E Feist (He Actually uses a self created world in his books that was originally created for his Dungeons and Dragons game back home)
68. Kari Byron (Played DnD and has thought about getting Adam and Jaime to play with her.)
69. Brian Posehn
70. Jason Mewes (Though when asked about it he says "DND IS FOR FAGGOTS" then turns to Kevin Smith and starts laughing)
71. Robert Jordan (And his sons which he taught how to play)
72. Weird Al Yankovic
73. Mastodon's Drum Brann Dailor
74. Neil Fallon and MAYBE the other members of Clutch (They even wrote an unreleased song called 24 Earth Years which mentioned playing AD&D back in the day)
75. David X. Cohen (In David's piece in the 30 year D&D hardback book, he says he never had time to play during Futurama, but most the writers did, and they kept D&D books in the office as "referrence" material.(He did get to play while working on The Simpsons though))
76. Alexis Cruz (He also LARPs. HAHAHA Nerd)
77. David Cross (He also mentions a group of comedians he plays with but wouldnt name them.)
78. Billy Crystal (He also plays 40K With Robin Williams)
79. R.A. Salvatore (Though I guess he would have too)
80. Some of the members of Dragonforce (And DND themes have worked their way into Dragonforce songs over and over)
81. David Duchovney (actually mentioned it on Conan O'Brien not too long ago)
82. The band Dayglo Abortions (Even wrote a song about it called Dragons)
83. Donald Faison (He plays Monks)
84. Insane Clown Posse
85. Emilio Estévez
86. Glenn Danzig
87. The Dream Warriors (Anyone one from canada like these guys?)
88. Michelle Malkin
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: daniel_ream on January 21, 2014, 10:58:59 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;725371Can we talk RPGs and not politics.

No.  This place turned into rpg.net about a month ago.
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Post by: Opaopajr on January 22, 2014, 01:57:52 AM
Well thank you for the gesture, Jeff.

Metal is unsurprisingly well represented. Now we need to corrupt rap or pop music. Mwa ha ha!
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Post by: flyerfan1991 on January 22, 2014, 06:10:35 AM
Don't forget Stephen Colbert, who also had a brief remembrance of Gary Gygax when he passed away.

Aaaand of course he was #1.  That's what I get for skipping that one.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Bedrockbrendan on January 22, 2014, 08:19:08 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;725455Well thank you for the gesture, Jeff.

Metal is unsurprisingly well represented. Now we need to corrupt rap or pop music. Mwa ha ha!

When d12 came our, i thought it was a gaming reference, but apparently not. I suspect there are some closeted gamers in the pop and hip hop commnuties.
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Post by: J Arcane on January 22, 2014, 11:49:34 AM
There's also all of Zak's porn starlet friends. Most of them I'd never heard of, but Stoya and Charlotte Stokely are pretty big names in the field.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and Jim Butcher who wrote the Dresden Files is a big gamer too. Even LARPs.
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Post by: Géza Echs on January 23, 2014, 02:22:48 PM
GWAR started as a riff off of the various band members' passion for D&D, and their in-band game continues to this day.
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Post by: dragoner on January 23, 2014, 02:36:57 PM
Meh. I don't do anything because famous people do it; but, it was an interesting section in marketing about celebrity endorsements and those that do follow them.
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Post by: RPGPundit on January 29, 2014, 04:35:41 AM
I bet Judy Dench would make a pretty fine GM.

Was George R R Martin on the list?  I know he played GURPS, and I'd even heard that he started Game of Thrones as an RPG campaign.
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Post by: The Butcher on January 29, 2014, 06:40:31 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;727802I bet Judy Dench would make a pretty fine GM.

Was George R R Martin on the list?  I know he played GURPS, and I'd even heard that he started Game of Thrones as an RPG campaign.

He's a gamer, but the above smacks of wishful thinking. It's the Wild Cards universe that started as a Superworld (not GURPS) campaign.
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Post by: jibbajibba on January 29, 2014, 07:04:17 AM
Lies of Locke Lamora was a D&D game - ScottLynch geeks off about D&D on his blog fairly often though suspect he is now a lapsed player

Likewise Joe Abercrombie though on his blog he mainly discusses computer games. I guess a side effect of writing being a solo profession.

And the two of them reference a host of other fantasy and Scifi authors

Basically if you are 30 - 50 and writing fantasy you probably played D&D as a kid.
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Post by: Bradford C. Walker on January 29, 2014, 05:26:05 PM
Quote from: jibbajibba;727823Lies of Locke Lamora was a D&D game - ScottLynch geeks off about D&D on his blog fairly often though suspect he is now a lapsed player
He is.  First-hand knowledge.
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Post by: Panjumanju on January 29, 2014, 06:19:40 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;727819He's a gamer, but the above smacks of wishful thinking. It's the Wild Cards universe that started as a Superworld (not GURPS) campaign.

"Game of Thrones" didn't start as a roleplaying game, but it was deeply steeped in its sensibilities given that it was written by a *massive RPG geek*.

I run a small community radio station, and had the chance last year to interview Melinda Snodgrass, who was a contributor to the Wild Cards short story series. She also wrote several second and third season scripts for Star Trek: The Next Generation, and was a story editor on that show.

She only got into writing because her friend George R. R. Martin pushed her into it. George was working on TV's 'Beauty and the Beast' and rather than getting her in on that show (in case she failed) he got her to submit a spec script to Star Trek: The Next Generation. She sold them "Measure of a Man" and basically went on to be responsible for all the good Data episodes.

During this time she was playing weekly roleplaying games with George R. R. Martin as GM, along with fellow writers from that area, like (drum-roll please) Roger Zelazny, among other very impressive people (that I'd have to listen to the interview again to remember).

Anyway, I asked her what they played together, and she said:

* George was obsessed with Superworld, of all things.
* They played a lot of GURPS and Cthulhu.
* More than anything they played historical settings with home-brew systems George (and others in the group) would come up with, most notably an ancient Rome campaign that went on for something like 10 years, and a pirate/privateer campaign that, if I remember her saying correctly, went for a similar length.

In summary, George R. R. Martin is a huge roleplaying geek, and Melinda Snodgrass is a super interesting person and one of the unsung heroes of science fiction.

//Panjumanju
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Post by: The Butcher on January 29, 2014, 08:37:19 PM
Quote from: Panjumanju;727995"Game of Thrones" didn't start as a roleplaying game, but it was deeply steeped in its sensibilities given that it was written by a *massive RPG geek*.


This is pretty awesome. Thanks for sharing. :)
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Post by: RPGPundit on January 31, 2014, 12:51:04 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;727819He's a gamer, but the above smacks of wishful thinking. It's the Wild Cards universe that started as a Superworld (not GURPS) campaign.

Maybe so, but at the same time pretty much with every character in Thrones you can see them as GURPS Fantasy guys complete with having seriously minmaxed on their disadvantages: "I want to be the best fucking swordsman in the world.. shit.. better take 'incestuous relationship with sister' and 'murdered the last king'"

"I want to be even better at swordplay than that other guy! Damn.. i better take "excessively tall", "social disadvantage: female", and "flaw: falls in love with idiots""

"I want to be crazy smart and really socially competent... ah well, 'midget' here I come"

"I want my character to be King!  Damn.. I'll have to take the 'complete asshole' disadvantage"

"I'm the badass strong mean knight.. fuck, well, "facial burns" and 'phobia: fire' it is.."

"I want dragons!! You're saying I'll have to take what?? Oh.. well.. ok!"

"I want to be the most awesome character in this or any other campaign ever.  I'll have to take 'little girl'?? But I did that already in the 'Kick-Ass Supers' campaign!  Well, whatever..."

And then the guy playing Littlefinger doesn't char-op at all and ends up running circles around everyone else by sheer Roleplay, because he's used to playing Amber instead of GURPS.

RPGPundit
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: Exploderwizard on January 31, 2014, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;728509Maybe so, but at the same time pretty much with every character in Thrones you can see them as GURPS Fantasy guys complete with having seriously minmaxed on their disadvantages: "I want to be the best fucking swordsman in the world.. shit.. better take 'incestuous relationship with sister' and 'murdered the last king'"

"I want to be even better at swordplay than that other guy! Damn.. i better take "excessively tall", "social disadvantage: female", and "flaw: falls in love with idiots""

"I want to be crazy smart and really socially competent... ah well, 'midget' here I come"

"I want my character to be King!  Damn.. I'll have to take the 'complete asshole' disadvantage"

"I'm the badass strong mean knight.. fuck, well, "facial burns" and 'phobia: fire' it is.."

"I want dragons!! You're saying I'll have to take what?? Oh.. well.. ok!"

"I want to be the most awesome character in this or any other campaign ever.  I'll have to take 'little girl'?? But I did that already in the 'Kick-Ass Supers' campaign!  Well, whatever..."

And then the guy playing Littlefinger doesn't char-op at all and ends up running circles around everyone else by sheer Roleplay, because he's used to playing Amber instead of GURPS.

RPGPundit

:rotfl:

That may be the best summary of the main characters ever.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: daniel_ream on January 31, 2014, 06:05:06 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;728509Maybe so, but at the same time pretty much with every character in Thrones you can see them as GURPS Fantasy guys complete with having seriously minmaxed on their disadvantages:

If the series weren't a missing clef away from being a roman a clef for the Wars of the Roses, you might have something.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: RPGPundit on January 31, 2014, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: daniel_ream;728562If the series weren't a missing clef away from being a roman a clef for the Wars of the Roses, you might have something.

Oh believe me, I know.  I was really just having a laugh.
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: markfitz on February 01, 2014, 07:39:43 AM
Gave me a good laugh anyway ... cheers, Pundit.:D
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: The Butcher on February 01, 2014, 08:47:51 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;728509Maybe so, but at the same time pretty much with every character in Thrones you can see them as GURPS Fantasy guys complete with having seriously minmaxed on their disadvantages:

Good show, sir. :hatsoff:
Title: Vin Diesel quits DMing and...
Post by: RPGPundit on February 04, 2014, 08:28:47 PM
Thanks. The blog entry I did with that post got quite the response, for such a silly topic.  Meanwhile an SA goon selectively cut & paste part of it on grog.txt to imply I was being serious.