Greetings!

Venger, I hope that DTRPG pulls their heads out of their ass and gets your book going right.

I hope that your efforts continue to make progress and meet with success.

As I recall, you do have 5 children correct? Or is it 6 by now? I'm not surprised at all that you are staunchly Pro-Life. I am very glad that you are!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: SHARK on May 19, 2022, 01:00:18 PM
I'm not surprised at all that you are staunchly Pro-Life. I am very glad that you are!

I may not agree with Venger on Abortion but I will fight in his corner so he has the right to produce his work. I don't believe in banning art and I see RPGs as a creative art form.

In fact, many people tried to ban 'Piss Christ'. But for the most part, they failed.

Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 19, 2022, 12:01:58 PM
If people are too squeamish to hear about children being sacrificed by demons, then how can they support abortion... unless they simply pretend that what's happening isn't actually happening?

I just DMed RPGPundit's Lion & Dragon scenario, 'The Child Eaters', which available on DriveThru.   
Not going to give spoilers but you can guess some from the title.   ;-)

Quote from: SHARK on May 19, 2022, 01:00:18 PM
Greetings!

Venger, I hope that DTRPG pulls their heads out of their ass and gets your book going right.

I hope that your efforts continue to make progress and meet with success.

As I recall, you do have 5 children correct? Or is it 6 by now? I'm not surprised at all that you are staunchly Pro-Life. I am very glad that you are!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

We're still holding at 5.  Thanks, hoss!  This issue will only grow.  You know how slavery and racism was a big issue not too long ago?  The same is going to happen with the abortion issue in 10 years.

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 19, 2022, 01:04:40 PM

Quote from: SHARK on May 19, 2022, 01:00:18 PM
I'm not surprised at all that you are staunchly Pro-Life. I am very glad that you are!

I may not agree with Venger on Abortion but I will fight in his corner so he has the right to produce his work. I don't believe in banning art and I see RPGs as a creative art form.

In fact, many people tried to ban 'Piss Christ'. But for the most part, they failed.

I studied the Piss Christ work of art in college.  I support the rights of artists to make whatever they want, especially offensive art!  Thanks for fighting alongside me, hoss.

Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 20, 2022, 02:29:17 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 19, 2022, 01:04:40 PM

Quote from: SHARK on May 19, 2022, 01:00:18 PM
I'm not surprised at all that you are staunchly Pro-Life. I am very glad that you are!

I may not agree with Venger on Abortion but I will fight in his corner so he has the right to produce his work. I don't believe in banning art and I see RPGs as a creative art form.

In fact, many people tried to ban 'Piss Christ'. But for the most part, they failed.

I studied the Piss Christ work of art in college.  I support the rights of artists to make whatever they want, especially offensive art!  Thanks for fighting alongside me, hoss.

Don't ask for my tax dollars, though.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 20, 2022, 03:27:18 PM

Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 20, 2022, 02:29:17 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 19, 2022, 01:04:40 PM

Quote from: SHARK on May 19, 2022, 01:00:18 PM
I'm not surprised at all that you are staunchly Pro-Life. I am very glad that you are!

I may not agree with Venger on Abortion but I will fight in his corner so he has the right to produce his work. I don't believe in banning art and I see RPGs as a creative art form.

In fact, many people tried to ban 'Piss Christ'. But for the most part, they failed.

I studied the Piss Christ work of art in college.  I support the rights of artists to make whatever they want, especially offensive art!  Thanks for fighting alongside me, hoss.

Don't ask for my tax dollars, though.

Sure! As long as we can tell the Church to F off too. With all their tax exemption bullshit and government grants.

Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 20, 2022, 02:29:17 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 19, 2022, 01:04:40 PM

Quote from: SHARK on May 19, 2022, 01:00:18 PM
I'm not surprised at all that you are staunchly Pro-Life. I am very glad that you are!

I may not agree with Venger on Abortion but I will fight in his corner so he has the right to produce his work. I don't believe in banning art and I see RPGs as a creative art form.

In fact, many people tried to ban 'Piss Christ'. But for the most part, they failed.

I studied the Piss Christ work of art in college.  I support the rights of artists to make whatever they want, especially offensive art!  Thanks for fighting alongside me, hoss.

Yeah me too... I think it was an obligatory art school thing at the time. Happy to help! We all have to stand up to bans and censorship.

Quote from: DocJones on May 19, 2022, 09:34:24 PM

Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 19, 2022, 12:01:58 PM
If people are too squeamish to hear about children being sacrificed by demons, then how can they support abortion... unless they simply pretend that what's happening isn't actually happening?

I just DMed RPGPundit's Lion & Dragon scenario, 'The Child Eaters', which available on DriveThru.   
Not going to give spoilers but you can guess some from the title.   ;-)

I'll comment that this adventure is based on medieval witch legends, not any modern political issue.

Quote from: RPGPundit on May 21, 2022, 12:35:28 AM

Quote from: DocJones on May 19, 2022, 09:34:24 PM

Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 19, 2022, 12:01:58 PM
If people are too squeamish to hear about children being sacrificed by demons, then how can they support abortion... unless they simply pretend that what's happening isn't actually happening?

I just DMed RPGPundit's Lion & Dragon scenario, 'The Child Eaters', which available on DriveThru.   
Not going to give spoilers but you can guess some from the title.   ;-)

I'll comment that this adventure is based on medieval witch legends, not any modern political issue.

That's true, medieval witch legends and biblical child sacrifices... also the sort of Aztec / Mayan sort of South American stuff that happened before the USA.  Roe vs. Wade was just a good excuse to bring up those topics.

I won't make you read the entire blog post to tell you what happened.  DriveThruRPG is effectively banning The Good Syma'arian unless I make certain changes, which I won't do. 

If you want more details (and the PDF), click the link:
http://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-verdict.html

Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 27, 2022, 01:58:27 PM

I won't make you read the entire blog post to tell you what happened.  DriveThruRPG is effectively banning The Good Syma'arian unless I make certain changes, which I won't do. 

If you want more details (and the PDF), click the link:
http://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-verdict.html

Despite the fact that I don't agree with your stance on abortion at all. I'm very disappointed with this result and it's a goal for censorship. However, I suppose it was inevitable, especially after the banning of wight power.

Sadly, you, Raggi, and GJ are on a woke scold hitlist. Pundit's stuff is safe (for now) because he doesn't have mature content. As you say, if this product didn't have the anti text in the beginning it would have flown under the radar (IMO).

However, I'm delighted that you've stuck to your guns and won't be editing the product. Respect...

Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 27, 2022, 01:58:27 PM

I won't make you read the entire blog post to tell you what happened.  DriveThruRPG is effectively banning The Good Syma'arian unless I make certain changes, which I won't do. 

If you want more details (and the PDF), click the link:
http://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-verdict.html

Dope, thanks for making it available!

No one is stopping Vengar from publishing. He is free to create and publish what he wants. No business is obliged to sell his stuff, either.  Make your decisions on whether this is important to you or not. Whether this means you stop buying stuff from Drive Thru or whatever, no one is stopping you from making this choice. But the comments that he is being prevented from publishing. That is just not true. Drive Thru doesn't want to do business with him. There are a shit-ton of products on Drivethru. You have to put some effort into being unreasonable to get yourselfed completly banned from a commerce site. I am assuming he is being completely banned. If he just can't sell the book they don't like then it is an even smaller deal.

Quote from: the crypt keeper on May 27, 2022, 02:36:55 PM
No one is stopping Vengar from publishing. He is free to create and publish what he wants. No business is obliged to sell his stuff, either.  Make your decisions on whether this is important to you or not. Whether this means you stop buying stuff from Drive Thru or whatever, no one is stopping you from making this choice. But the comments that he is being prevented from publishing. That is just not true. Drive Thru doesn't want to do business with him. There are a shit-ton of products on Drivethru. You have to put some effort into being unreasonable to get yourselfed completly banned from a commerce site. I am assuming he is being completely banned. If he just can't sell the book they don't like then it is an even smaller deal.

What you are saying is true and you have no rights that would force a site to publish your work.

However, we are free to disagree with their policy and call them assholes for it