Quote from: Omega on June 02, 2022, 03:32:37 PM
You missed the blow-up here and on BGG over one of Black Tokyo's products some years ago when this current wave of woke disease was in its big  "rape" phase.

Right, I presume that was one of their other products, and I assume it's banned over on drivethru? I'd not heard about it, to be honest.

There's another product that I'm surprised that the woke scolds are not protesting and that's 'Violence' released by Hogshead years back in 1999. You can still pick it up on Drivethru. It has that very English black sense of humor. I can imagine all the extreme evangelicals crying over it too.

Black Tokyo was garbage, though. Not just from a thematic standpoint (catgirl murder squads? Armor made from poop? REALLY?) but also mechanically. The 'big bad' radioactive tentacle-rape kaiju monster was very obviously never meant to face halfway competent, CR-appropriate PCs, because it had some VERY large holes in its defenses.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on June 03, 2022, 07:58:24 AM
Black Tokyo was garbage, though. Not just from a thematic standpoint (catgirl murder squads? Armor made from poop? REALLY?) but also mechanically. The 'big bad' radioactive tentacle-rape kaiju monster was very obviously never meant to face halfway competent, CR-appropriate PCs, because it had some VERY large holes in its defenses.

Armor made from shit??! Right... It sounds like a great game. LOL

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 03, 2022, 08:00:03 AM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on June 03, 2022, 07:58:24 AM
Black Tokyo was garbage, though. Not just from a thematic standpoint (catgirl murder squads? Armor made from poop? REALLY?) but also mechanically. The 'big bad' radioactive tentacle-rape kaiju monster was very obviously never meant to face halfway competent, CR-appropriate PCs, because it had some VERY large holes in its defenses.

Armor made from shit??! Right... It sounds like a great game. LOL

I mean, I don't object to grimdark, but BT honestly looked like some retard trying to show how 'edgy' he could be.

There were a couple of ideas that were interesting -- there's a spell that basically gives Shield Other to a villain, and his minions take the damage instead. But by and large, it was someone trying to out-edge Byron Hall. Sheesh.

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 02, 2022, 07:01:36 PM
There's another product that I'm surprised that the woke scolds are not protesting and that's 'Violence' released by Hogshead years back in 1999. You can still pick it up on Drivethru. It has that very English black sense of humor. I can imagine all the extreme evangelicals crying over it too.

Where can you get it? I can't find it in their store at all

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on June 03, 2022, 01:50:30 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 02, 2022, 07:01:36 PM
There's another product that I'm surprised that the woke scolds are not protesting and that's 'Violence' released by Hogshead years back in 1999. You can still pick it up on Drivethru. It has that very English black sense of humor. I can imagine all the extreme evangelicals crying over it too.

Where can you get it? I can't find it in their store at all

Sorry, my bad...

I thought I got it there, because I generally buy everything there. You're right it's not on DT.

I just realized that I got it for free on the chap's site (he's released the pdf).

http://costik.com/ludograf.html

Quote from: Ghostmaker on June 03, 2022, 10:08:38 AM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 03, 2022, 08:00:03 AM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on June 03, 2022, 07:58:24 AM
Black Tokyo was garbage, though. Not just from a thematic standpoint (catgirl murder squads? Armor made from poop? REALLY?) but also mechanically. The 'big bad' radioactive tentacle-rape kaiju monster was very obviously never meant to face halfway competent, CR-appropriate PCs, because it had some VERY large holes in its defenses.

Armor made from shit??! Right... It sounds like a great game. LOL

I mean, I don't object to grimdark, but BT honestly looked like some retard trying to show how 'edgy' he could be.

There were a couple of ideas that were interesting -- there's a spell that basically gives Shield Other to a villain, and his minions take the damage instead. But by and large, it was someone trying to out-edge Byron Hall. Sheesh.

I'd be the same... Being 'edgy' for the sake of it is a bit juvenile. I love dark settings, but they have to have some substance there to make them worth playing in the first place.

Right. Its crass. But people were screeching to have it banned here and especially on BGG without even knowing what the hell the module was about. EG: FIGHTING rapists. And when told, multiple times no less, what the hell the module was about. They double triple and quadruple-downed. BGG shuttered a few other games too on the sly during this phase.

And thats where places like BGG, YouTube and DT, and before it was ended Yahoo-Groups have power. They just quietly shutter you and no one will know unless you knew the product or person is there before. Or just outright disappear your "offensive" product or your whole account.

Perhaps someone needs to tell that blacklisting is triggering racist cancel culture BS and that even Hollywood wouldn't stoop that low... oh, wait.  :-)

Quote from: Omega on June 04, 2022, 05:02:47 AM
Right. Its crass. But people were screeching to have it banned here

Yeah, why have it banned? I mean you don't have to read it. Oh, and at the very least, know what you're attempting to have banned in the first place. LOL

That's why I always see the extreme evangelicals and the woke scolds as practically the same entity. They both love telling you what they want in their gaming sphere and condemn something that doesn't conform to 'their standards'. They demand freedom and yet try and stifle products they don't like. Hm..

Quote from: zircher on June 04, 2022, 08:41:31 AM
Perhaps someone needs to tell that blacklisting is triggering racist cancel culture BS and that even Hollywood wouldn't stoop that low... oh, wait.  :-)

From the very first day of the current iteration of this plague on humanity... Its only wrong and racist and ist-ist if someone else is doing it. Allways preaching that they are here to help us, save us from the horrible oppression and discrimination we suffer under.

The minute one of us tries to say otherwise or refuses to be their pet animal. Well the mask falls off every fucking time. Or whey eventually just hallucinate you arent a good dog anymore and its off to the gassing chamber for you. All praise the Master Race. And die.

It didnt matter what Venger did. Sooner or later they would have gone after him. They just went after him sooner because he bucks the system and doesnt kowtow at their feet. The only reason they have not gone after Pundit as hard is that his product is hard to pin down anything to make accusations from. So they have to fabricate personal offenses. And Fox still got him removed from 5e credits as a consultant.

Quote from: Omega on June 05, 2022, 03:19:40 AM
It didnt matter what Venger did. Sooner or later they would have gone after him. They just went after him sooner because he bucks the system and doesnt kowtow at their feet.

Very true. It's about personality, if you're not liked and unapologetic they want you out of the system.

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 05, 2022, 07:05:47 AM

Quote from: Omega on June 05, 2022, 03:19:40 AM
It didnt matter what Venger did. Sooner or later they would have gone after him. They just went after him sooner because he bucks the system and doesnt kowtow at their feet.

Very true. It's about personality, if you're not liked and unapologetic they want you out of the system.

And if you are liked then they want you out of the system and dead. And even if you are a good little bootlicker they will sooner or later come after you. We've seen it time and again.

Its the same as how they treat minorities and the handicapped. We are oh so precious. Until its convenient for us to not be. We've seen it time and again as well. And remember, its bad to exploit us... Only as long as its convenient. The minute they come up with a way to profit off us. Then its perfectly ok.

And they try, and too often succeed, in imposing this on RPGs, board games, and everything else.

They even censor or modify the nostalgia merch. First is was the Efreet statue made from the AD&D DMs Guide. Now...the show.

If those are real, then looks like they have been aged up a fair bit as well. Are these marketed as the actual show characters? Or just nods to? Cause there are quite a few. A quick check shows that the minis seem to be based on characters in an upcomming new starter set. With characters based on or nods to those from the cartoon.



Even a live action car commercial that is actually pretty good.