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Author Topic: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again  (Read 18983 times)

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #60 on: May 27, 2022, 03:12:17 PM »
No one is stopping Vengar from publishing. He is free to create and publish what he wants. No business is obliged to sell his stuff, either.  Make your decisions on whether this is important to you or not. Whether this means you stop buying stuff from Drive Thru or whatever, no one is stopping you from making this choice. But the comments that he is being prevented from publishing. That is just not true. Drive Thru doesn't want to do business with him. There are a shit-ton of products on Drivethru. You have to put some effort into being unreasonable to get yourselfed completly banned from a commerce site. I am assuming he is being completely banned. If he just can't sell the book they don't like then it is an even smaller deal.

What you are saying is true and you have no rights that would force a site to publish your work.

However, we are free to disagree with their policy and call them assholes for it

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #61 on: May 27, 2022, 03:31:37 PM »
Where's the next specialized store that competes with DTTRPG? That's not owned by OBS? They have a virtual monopoly.

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You aren't worth talking to.  Moving on
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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #62 on: May 27, 2022, 04:27:45 PM »

I won't make you read the entire blog post to tell you what happened.  DriveThruRPG is effectively banning The Good Syma'arian unless I make certain changes, which I won't do. 

If you want more details (and the PDF), click the link:
http://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-verdict.html

Despite the fact that I don't agree with your stance on abortion at all. I'm very disappointed with this result and it's a goal for censorship. However, I suppose it was inevitable, especially after the banning of wight power.

Sadly, you, Raggi, and GJ are on a woke scold hitlist. Pundit's stuff is safe (for now) because he doesn't have mature content. As you say, if this product didn't have the anti text in the beginning it would have flown under the radar (IMO).

However, I'm delighted that you've stuck to your guns and won't be editing the product. Respect...

Thanks, hoss! 

I didn't know Wight Power was banned... what happened?  Because of the joke name, content, or something else?

Didn't Raggi say that if one of his products ever got blacklisted on DriveThru that he'd pull them all? 

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #63 on: May 27, 2022, 04:29:17 PM »
No one is stopping Vengar from publishing. He is free to create and publish what he wants. No business is obliged to sell his stuff, either.  Make your decisions on whether this is important to you or not. Whether this means you stop buying stuff from Drive Thru or whatever, no one is stopping you from making this choice. But the comments that he is being prevented from publishing. That is just not true. Drive Thru doesn't want to do business with him. There are a shit-ton of products on Drivethru. You have to put some effort into being unreasonable to get yourselfed completly banned from a commerce site. I am assuming he is being completely banned. If he just can't sell the book they don't like then it is an even smaller deal.

Wow, you're pontificating in this thread while admitting you don't even know what the fuck we're talking about?  That takes balls...

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #64 on: May 27, 2022, 05:10:13 PM »
No one is stopping Vengar from publishing. He is free to create and publish what he wants. No business is obliged to sell his stuff, either.  Make your decisions on whether this is important to you or not. Whether this means you stop buying stuff from Drive Thru or whatever, no one is stopping you from making this choice. But the comments that he is being prevented from publishing. That is just not true. Drive Thru doesn't want to do business with him. There are a shit-ton of products on Drivethru. You have to put some effort into being unreasonable to get yourselfed completly banned from a commerce site. I am assuming he is being completely banned. If he just can't sell the book they don't like then it is an even smaller deal.

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #65 on: May 27, 2022, 05:41:27 PM »
Drivethrurpg is banning a product for mentioning politics they don’t agree with, while maintaining a monopoly on the market. That’s a problem.

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #66 on: May 27, 2022, 05:57:55 PM »
No one is stopping Vengar from publishing. He is free to create and publish what he wants. No business is obliged to sell his stuff, either.  Make your decisions on whether this is important to you or not. Whether this means you stop buying stuff from Drive Thru or whatever, no one is stopping you from making this choice. But the comments that he is being prevented from publishing. That is just not true. Drive Thru doesn't want to do business with him. There are a shit-ton of products on Drivethru. You have to put some effort into being unreasonable to get yourselfed completly banned from a commerce site. I am assuming he is being completely banned. If he just can't sell the book they don't like then it is an even smaller deal.

Wow, you're pontificating in this thread while admitting you don't even know what the fuck we're talking about?  That takes balls...

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Yes, Venger. That is because if you are a cock-sucking Leftist, it is fine to be a bigot and full of hatred. Leftist scum can freely discriminate, censor, and exclude anyone that they do not like.

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #67 on: May 27, 2022, 06:02:58 PM »
Greetings!

If thousands of Conservatives flooded DTHRPG with screaming emails, threatening to stop working, marketing, or buying a damned thing ever again from DTHTPG, then you would see that fucking company change on a dime.

That won't happen though, unfortunately, because unlike the Leftists, the Conservatives are too lazy, uninvolved, disunited, and uncoordinated. That dynamic *might* change, but I am not overly optimistic about such a change happening.

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #68 on: May 27, 2022, 07:22:04 PM »

I won't make you read the entire blog post to tell you what happened.  DriveThruRPG is effectively banning The Good Syma'arian unless I make certain changes, which I won't do. 

If you want more details (and the PDF), click the link:
http://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-verdict.html

Despite the fact that I don't agree with your stance on abortion at all. I'm very disappointed with this result and it's a goal for censorship. However, I suppose it was inevitable, especially after the banning of wight power.

Sadly, you, Raggi, and GJ are on a woke scold hitlist. Pundit's stuff is safe (for now) because he doesn't have mature content. As you say, if this product didn't have the anti text in the beginning it would have flown under the radar (IMO).

However, I'm delighted that you've stuck to your guns and won't be editing the product. Respect...

Thanks, hoss! 

I didn't know Wight Power was banned... what happened?  Because of the joke name, content, or something else?

Didn't Raggi say that if one of his products ever got blacklisted on DriveThru that he'd pull them all?

Sorry man... I was speaking a little bit metaphorically there, as opposed to being literal. I meant about the banning of the cover of wight power. Raggi had to change it for it to be allowed on drivthru with that 'redacted' cover (afaik).

And a woke scold hitlist is probably not anything official or even on drivethru per se. But more of a 'we better not upset the woke scolds' because we don't want to look bad.




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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #69 on: May 27, 2022, 07:32:01 PM »
Drivethrurpg is banning a product for mentioning politics they don’t agree with, while maintaining a monopoly on the market. That’s a problem.

Beat me to it... Exactly, When companies have a monopoly then it is a problem.

Also, why is Venger's stuff targeted? It's not the first time either (Alpha Blue). I've read plenty of stuff on there that is just as easily as edgy. Like, Black Dog Gaming Factory, Black Tokyo, Baali clanbook.

Would they target Venger if he was a huge publisher? IMO I think not.


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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #70 on: May 27, 2022, 08:57:56 PM »
I call it the free market.
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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #71 on: May 27, 2022, 09:04:27 PM »

What you are saying is true and you have no rights that would force a site to publish your work.


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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #72 on: May 27, 2022, 09:06:05 PM »
I call it the free market.

Like I said "Muh Private Company!"

Wonder if you would say the same if it was some leftard product getting banned because conservatives brigaded DTTRPG. Bet you'd be bleating like a lost kid searching for mama goat.
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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #73 on: May 27, 2022, 09:06:51 PM »


Wow, you're pontificating in this thread while admitting you don't even know what the fuck we're talking about?  That takes balls...

I do have a pair.
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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #74 on: May 27, 2022, 09:08:45 PM »

What you are saying is true and you have no rights that would force a site to publish your work.



Where's the next especialized store that competes with DTTRPG? That's not owned by OBS? They have a virtual monopoly. But it's always nice to see a leftoid scream: "Muh Private Company!"
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Are you whining life isn't fair? Drivethru doesn't want to print his stufff. Life moves on and the hysterics in the ttrpg community will continually, and fortunately, have zero impact in the real world.
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I'm pointing out you're a raging leftard, therefore a hypocrite, you'd be bleating like a goat if it was some leftoid product getting banned.

The difference between us is that I would condemn the censorship even if I disagreed with the author's politics.
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

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