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Time To Ditch WotC Video

Started by jeff37923, July 04, 2020, 07:54:51 AM

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FelixGamingX1

Good to see common sense still exists.
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Snowman0147

Quote from: oggsmash;1138321Bitchute and Parler.

I don't trust Parler.  I do trust Bitchute.  If you want a Reddit replacement get Ruqqus as they don't even require your email.

Snowman0147

Also Clownfish made one more video.

[video=youtube_share;hOed3-IFlLY]https://youtu.be/hOed3-IFlLY[/youtube]

Kneon from Clownfish TV

I can tell you it was never our intention to put Basic Fantasy or Chris Gonnerman in a bad position. I was looking for a streamlined D&D solution to teach my kids how to play, and had already grown frustrated with 5e long before I made the video.

Like Chris Gonnerman, I think there's a time and a place for political discussion, and the gaming table isn't necessarily it. This is why I have been so frustrated with WotC as they seem to believe politics should be front and center in gaming. Gaming should be an escape from the craziness going on in the real world right now. Unless, of course, DMs and players choose to incorporate that into their campaigns.

Like Chris Gonnerman, we identify as liberals. Knee jerk Twitter reactionaries who don't like our opinions try to paint us as "alt right" or some such nonsense. (I've never once voted Republican and Obama follows me on Twitter, for crying out loud.)

Given the crazy number of rando new accounts that commented on that video in defense of WotC, I have to wonder if he's gotten some "concerned" individuals coming to him behind-the-scenes with some half-truths or flat out lies about who we are and what the channel is about. (It's OK, Chris... we're used to it.)

hedgehobbit

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Quote from: Kneon from Clownfish TV;1138494I can tell you it was never our intention to put Basic Fantasy or Chris Gonnerman in a bad position.
A recommendation from wrong thinkers is the worst thing that can happen in these hobbies. You remember #MoveTheNeedle. Gonnerman disavowed right on schedule.

Armchair Gamer

Quote from: hedgehobbit;1138504A recommendation from wrong thinkers is the worst thing that can happen in these hobbies. You remember #MoveTheNeedle. Gonnerman disavowed right on schedule.

  Does that mean we should avoid promoting or recommending games here for fear of bringing them to the attention of the Lidless Eye? :)

Steven Mitchell

Quote from: hedgehobbit;1138504A recommendation from wrong thinkers is the worst thing that can happen in these hobbies. You remember #MoveTheNeedle. Gonnerman disavowed right on schedule.

I can't entirely blame them.  An honest liberal is something an SJW can't tolerate.  It reminds them of what they pretend to be but aren't.

Snowman0147

Quote from: Kneon from Clownfish TV;1138494I can tell you it was never our intention to put Basic Fantasy or Chris Gonnerman in a bad position. I was looking for a streamlined D&D solution to teach my kids how to play, and had already grown frustrated with 5e long before I made the video.

Like Chris Gonnerman, I think there's a time and a place for political discussion, and the gaming table isn't necessarily it. This is why I have been so frustrated with WotC as they seem to believe politics should be front and center in gaming. Gaming should be an escape from the craziness going on in the real world right now. Unless, of course, DMs and players choose to incorporate that into their campaigns.

Like Chris Gonnerman, we identify as liberals. Knee jerk Twitter reactionaries who don't like our opinions try to paint us as "alt right" or some such nonsense. (I've never once voted Republican and Obama follows me on Twitter, for crying out loud.)

Given the crazy number of rando new accounts that commented on that video in defense of WotC, I have to wonder if he's gotten some "concerned" individuals coming to him behind-the-scenes with some half-truths or flat out lies about who we are and what the channel is about. (It's OK, Chris... we're used to it.)

I think your the first big youtube channel that went to the site in the open.  You got my respect for that and because of you I bought Basic Fantasy so thank you for that.  Welcome to the forum.

trechriron

Quote from: Kneon from Clownfish TV;1138494I can tell you it was never our intention to put Basic Fantasy or Chris Gonnerman in a bad position. ...

Welcome to theRPGsite! In a world gone mad, a handful of ragtag RPG enthusiasts set out to be themselves and actually play games...  That's our movie trailer. :-D This is largely the last place I feel comfortable posting or interacting. It's become a frightening "Stepford Wives" culture of overly-critical cancel-culture outrage targeted at any breathing creature not decked out appropriately in cult-approved couture.

In the classic words of some airman back in the day... "fuck 'em if they can't take a joke."
Trentin C Bergeron (trechriron)
Bard, Creative & RPG Enthusiast

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D.O.N.G. Black-Belt (Thanks tenbones!)

insubordinate polyhedral

Quote from: Kneon from Clownfish TV;1138494I can tell you it was never our intention to put Basic Fantasy or Chris Gonnerman in a bad position. I was looking for a streamlined D&D solution to teach my kids how to play, and had already grown frustrated with 5e long before I made the video.

Like Chris Gonnerman, I think there's a time and a place for political discussion, and the gaming table isn't necessarily it. This is why I have been so frustrated with WotC as they seem to believe politics should be front and center in gaming. Gaming should be an escape from the craziness going on in the real world right now. Unless, of course, DMs and players choose to incorporate that into their campaigns.

Like Chris Gonnerman, we identify as liberals. Knee jerk Twitter reactionaries who don't like our opinions try to paint us as "alt right" or some such nonsense. (I've never once voted Republican and Obama follows me on Twitter, for crying out loud.)

Given the crazy number of rando new accounts that commented on that video in defense of WotC, I have to wonder if he's gotten some "concerned" individuals coming to him behind-the-scenes with some half-truths or flat out lies about who we are and what the channel is about. (It's OK, Chris... we're used to it.)

Hey, cool to see you here at the site! Welcome! And, uh, sorry about your getting slandered as alt right, from a fellow liberal. It's not fun and I'm not used to (read: numb to) it yet either.

Also
Quote from: Kneon from Clownfish TV;1138494I was looking for a streamlined D&D solution to teach my kids how to play, and had already grown frustrated with 5e long before I made the video.

You should look at the OSR my dude. :D

Kneon from Clownfish TV

At least the shoutout seemed to help with their sales...


Shasarak

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1138325They are going crazy over on TBP ...

Its Tuesday again?

Thats the second Tuesday this week.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

SavageSchemer

Quote from: Kneon from Clownfish TV;1138494Like Chris Gonnerman, we identify as liberals. Knee jerk Twitter reactionaries who don't like our opinions try to paint us as "alt right" or some such nonsense. (I've never once voted Republican and Obama follows me on Twitter, for crying out loud.)

See? This is where you don't quite get it yet. You'd be surprised at how many of us here identify as "left of center" 90's era liberals. The problem, however, is that you (and we) are right of them. So much so that they literally can't distinguish the difference between "left of center" and actual fucking neo-Nazis. You are, therefore, alt-right (according to the retarded narrative these people push).

Anyway - if you'd never heard of some of the OSR retro games before, oh boy have we got some games to talk to you about! Basic Fantasy is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg, mi amigo.
The more clichéd my group plays their characters, the better. I don't want Deep Drama™ and Real Acting™ in the precious few hours away from my family and job. I want cheap thrills, constant action, involved-but-not-super-complex plots, and cheesy but lovable characters.
From "Play worlds, not rules"

Spinachcat

Quote from: S'mon;1137992BFRPG is cool, and with print-at-cost via amazon it's incredibly cheap, fantastic value for money.

It's $5 on Amazon. You could drop $30 and supply a full table with their own books. I prefer S&W:WB because I love the 0e rawness, but BF is a perfectly fine TSR retroclone. I've played it a few times and I've got no complaints.


Quote from: Arkansan;1138320Why should I continue to invest in a company I don't like?

For those of us sick of the retard nonsense, WotC does not deserve either our time or our money.


Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1138325They are going crazy over on TBP ...

What's happening?

Provide quotes!! The LOLZ must flow!


Quote from: Shasarak;1138538Thats the second Tuesday this week.

In the "new normal", it's always Tuesday!

Spinachcat

Quote from: Kneon from Clownfish TV;1138494This is why I have been so frustrated with WotC as they seem to believe politics should be front and center in gaming. Gaming should be an escape from the craziness going on in the real world right now.

Damn it! We got another of those damn MAGA Natzis joining the site!! :D


Quote from: Kneon from Clownfish TV;1138494Like Chris Gonnerman, we identify as liberals. Knee jerk Twitter reactionaries who don't like our opinions try to paint us as "alt right" or some such nonsense.

2020 isn't about Left vs. Right, Liberal vs. Conservative, Democrat vs. Republican.

It's Freedom vs. Tyranny.

What used to be "your side" wants you silenced for wrongthink and shamed so others don't dare speak out. "Our side" may not always (or ever) agree with you, but we always defend your right to voice your opinion.


Quote from: Kneon from Clownfish TV;1138494I've never once voted Republican

The most overheard comment at every Trump rally!!!